woman cancels date, do I contac her?

[pyros]

Hello.

Story in a nutshell:

Met this chick, shes a single mom. Got her number.
After some days she texted me to say that she was gonna be at X club on Friday, just in case I wanted to see her. Since I was gonna go there anyway, we finally met there. She came with her ex-husband. You could say they had a negative vibe between them. I danced two songs with her. She texted me later on to say that she really like dancing with me.

A few days later I suggested a date, she agreed. We went for a drink. In the end I went for the kiss, so we made out a bit. She told me that she is no longer in love with her ex hubby. She also said that she's on an oline dating site and that she has met a couple of nice guys there. Ok, whatever.

Some days later I suggested a second date, she agreed. She texts me the day before to aske me if I mind to reschedule our date for one hour later cause she wants to attend some dancing lesson, I say ok.
The day of the date comes and she texts me in the morning to tell me that she is very tired because of her shiftworks and blah blah...so I say no prob, Ill see you some other time. She says thank you. She attended her dancing lesson anyway at 22h eventhough she said she was very tired; our date was suposed to be at 23:30. Besides she was online on whatsapp during the whole night.

Then the following night she happens to be at the same club than me. She came to say hello and I just asked how she was doing etc, but it felt awkward and I just continued with 'right... er see you around', and she made a weird expression.


Now, I was not planing on contacting her again cause she cancelled with a fake excuse, but on the other hand she came to say hello to me in the club the following night... I dont know..she may be pissed cause I basically ignored her in this club but I was kind of butthurted because she cancelled our date and did not reschedule.

Do I contact her? again? or do I wait to see if she contacts me?
I think she SHOULD contact me if she is interested....
Its been three days since I saw her in that club.


Thanks.

 

[Renegade357]

LOL, wow this is an easy one. Run away dude. She doesn't respect you, she's got mad baggage and the ex husband is still in the picture.

Future reference. Broken date with flimsy excuse = NEXT

Don't even question it.

 

[Betterz]

Recently divorced and back on the c0ck carosel. I'd avoid. She canceled and didn't reschedule for the next night and could have invited you to join her at the club. I think youd be better exiting and find someone with less baggage.

 

[pyros]

but I do not care about her baggage, I just would like to bang her, you know?
tips on howto?

P.S.
and yes, she could have rescheduled, or she could have invited me to join her at that club too. But why would she come to say hello to me if she was not interested? just to have some ego boost?
You know, I wanted to ask her with whom she came that night (I was wondering if she came with her ex hubby again, or with some other dude she bangs, or with friends...), but I did not.

 

[soulforge]

yeh i would defo next this one!

dude woman come out with some seriously f@cked up excuses to get out of dates... i had one tell me that her grandma had just passed away 2 hours before our date... how the f@ck do you argue with that?

later that eveving she was online POF lol

 

[Betterz]

Invite her over to your place. Nothing says "I want to bang you" more than the offer of quite time alone where she's vunerable in your man den. If she bails on that, you got the message.

 

[Renegade357]

but I do not care about her baggage, I just would like to bang her, you know?
tips on howto?

Uhh, tell her to come over to your place and bring a bottle of wine. Simple as that. Don't over think this BS.

 

[soulforge]

i suppose if you only want to bang her, then yes invite her over to your place!

if she agrees, she might be good to go... oh this time tell her to leave her ex husband at home!

(unless thats your thing)

 

[GS750]

Ah single mothers and their bullsh*t. The ex is still in the picture. She's probably still sleeps with him. Let the single fathers date the single mothers.

 

[pyros]

FYI, I do not have a place of my own...so I cannot invite her over.

Alternatives?

 

[Harry Wilmington]

She brought her ex-husband on your first meet-up (which, for the record, wasn't a date since she invited you someplace she was already going)? LOW INTEREST. And she's still in love with her ex, otherwise she wouldn't have mentioned not being in love with him. Going for her just for sex? No bueno - you don't need the drama. Let her go, and find someone else.

 

[Betterz]

FYI, I do not have a place of my own...so I cannot invite her over.

Alternatives?

Hotel, back seat of the car, against a dark alley wall. Improvise. I'd throw a few shots down her throat, get her wild and loose and treat her like the wild thing she's gagging for (after being in a crap marriage- can bet you shes looking for some bad boy attention)

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

She brought her ex-husband on your first meet-up (which, for the record, wasn't a date since she invited you someplace she was already going)? LOW INTEREST. And she's still in love with her ex, otherwise she wouldn't have mentioned not being in love with him. Going for her just for sex? No bueno - you don't need the drama. Let her go, and find someone else.

Yes. Why would she bring her ex-husband to a club? WTF is that? You were there to make him jealous, she got her use out of you.

Next her or put this one on the back burner. She may have initially had you in mind as a just a tool.....but if you play it right, like you have been, you may be able to turn it around. I wouldn't put much effort into it, keep her as a plan Z, unless you get a text from her at 2am....then blow that $hit up!

 

[VladPatton]

The words 'mom', 'Friday', and 'club' should not be in the same sentence! Jeezy Creezy!

Run.

 

[nismo-4]

Your princess is in her ex husband's castle. The fact she even brought him up is a sign of low interest. Then she flaked on you. Women don't flake on men they're interested in. Women who are interested in you won't confuse you. Nor do they throw out mixed signals.

Drop her ass.

Case closed. Run.

 

[pyros]

Your princess is in her ex husband's castle. The fact she even brought him up is a sign of low interest. Then she flaked on you. Women don't flake on men they're interested in. Women who are interested in you won't confuse you. Nor do they throw out mixed signals.

Drop her ass.

Case closed. Run.

so where is it Confident Persistence here? she kind of cancelled our second date (she just said she slept little and was feeling tired, so I said ok, well hang out some other day), but besides this, she has been positive: she replied to texts quick, she agreed to first date, she accepted the make out etc

dont you think?

and if she was not interested, why would she come to say hello to me in the club the last time? she could have just ignored me.

P.S.
she hasnt contacted me for now.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Dude... seriously. You've been on here since 2011, so you HAVE to have learned something on these boards in the last two years.

If a girl cancels for any non-legitimate reason (i.e. "oh, I'm so tired") after a date has been scheduled, she has LOW interest. Otherwise, she would have saved energy for the date - it's just an excuse.

Just because she replies to text doesn't mean she's interested; it means she's not trying to be rude. That's it. However, not accepting your dates is her passive aggressive way of saying "I'm not all that interested in you."

She came to say "hello" to you in the club because she figured if you ran into her you were going to say it to her. That's it. She knows you, you've interacted before, so it would be rude for her not to say "hi" to you. Again, this doesn't mean she's interested, it just means she has manners.

Bottom line: you JUST met this girl. Just because you took her out and made out with her doesn't mean she's interested. I've been on plenty of dates where I've made out with and/or went all the way with a chick, and didn't see her anymore after that. So, until you've gone out with her multiple times over a period of months, you do NOT have her, nor should you think you're automatically in with her off of one date and a club meet-up where her ex-husband was there.

 

[Greggie W]

She came out with her ex?

That's just bad news all around...you need to run from that scenario.

Plenty of other women out there who don't carry the ex in their pocket!!

 

[pyros]

She came out with her ex?

That's just bad news all around...you need to run from that scenario.

Plenty of other women out there who don't carry the ex in their pocket!!

yeah... she did. She made out with me one week later though.

Anyway, she does not seem so interested right now, so I think it is over, at least for now.

 

[Maximus Rex]

I've read your posts, (this one and the one about the Salsa Club Wisdom Tooth Chick,) and from my opinion, I've noticed these three things following to be your sticking points:

3) You're trying to figure out why ONE particular chick is losing interest. It isn't why the chick is losing interest per se, but rather what are YOU DOING to cause the chick to lose interest.

In order to figure that out, you're going to have to set up any where from about ten to twenty prospects, keep a detailed journal of your encounters with these prospects, read the journal, and see if you see any patterns emerging. For example, I noticed that I could get a chick's number and hold her interest for roughly three weeks before she faded to black. As I did my introspection, I realized that when I was assertive, assumed that I was going to get the ass, and was an alpha male, I was successful.

2) Rex is an arrogant conceited muthaf*cka and I feel as if I'm one of the finest human beings ever to walk the earth. With that being said, my arrogance and conceit doesn't extend to the point where I assume that I'm a woman's only option and that's where you're f*cking up at, when you're making these dates with these chicks, you're assuming that she's prioritizing the date with the same enthusiasm that you are. Dude, she's not. You're not her only option. Hell, you're not her best option. Understand and accept the fact that YOU'RE ONE OF MANY OPTIONS! You have to stop making a date to "go on a date."

What Rex? In other words, stop setting aside a block of time in the near future to see this chick again, for the reasons that I've already stated. One of the reasons why I believe in pick up strategies and methods like a Christian believes in Jesus, is because the **** works. Am I master PUA? No, I'm far from it, but when I do use something that I've read from The Game, or Mystery Method, the **** works, ALWAYS and what I'm about to recommend to you comes straight from The Game.

The next time you have a in set, you're vibin' and you've made the transition from male-to-female, to female-to-male attraction. Right then and there, tell her to come with you to "x," spot. This what I said to a chick.

Rex: Sup?

Lady Death: Nothing much.

Rex: How's class?

Lady Death: It's cool. Just going over how to prepare summons and sh*t.

After more random fluff talk, I told Lady Death I was going to take her out to eat.

Rex: What are you doing after class.

Lady Death: Nothing...Why?

Rex: I'm taking you to dinner.

She was taken aback by my forwardness, but at the same time she was impressed and I might say turned by my aggressiveness and extreme confidence.

I can't stress enough to you, that you have to TELL these chicks to accompany you on an outing. Like it said in The Game, "Women like being told what to do and bossed around." Also, it tells the chick you're interested and you're showing them attention without placating them. As you go around doing your daily activities, take note of the places that would be good for an "insta-date." You need to ask yourself, "If I were to meet a chick right now, where would I take her?

1) Most importantly, you need to stop hollering at for a minute and read the following:

The Game, Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists by Neil Strauss

The Mystery Method by Mystery

How to Succeed with Women by Ron Louis and David Copeland

The DJ Bible

I can tell by the nature of your questions that you haven't "read," any of the "textbooks." The questions that you have in regards to interest level and IoI's (indicators of interest,) are answered in those books. Good luck.