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Win without a Fight

Cloud-uk

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Right, this is just before I start a "get witty" lessons post, which will keep me occupied on this board for a good while, I want to share with you a discovery I've made.

This isn't really about girls, but more playing the game, and standing up for yourself.

The big thing this site has taught me is that although we may start off different, we can all achieve the same: anything. We all have no boundaries, only the one's we make for ourselves.

But lets think for a second, how many DJ's are there? People who see the social game for what it is? And what's the chance of you being the only one at a party? So what is everyone else thinking?

They're thinking inside the box. Their world is govened by rules and social ladders. And that is their intrinsic flaw. At a risk of sounding like Morpheus from The Matrix, even the greatest guy who is still thinking "in the box" is governed by laws. Laws you can play with.

So, the social ladder that inhibited many of us as AFCs can be used by a DJ. If you couldn't already tell, this is now going into a home story (and a bit of a boast:rolleyes: )

I've got a bunch of platonic girlfriends, who mean a lot to me. Not much pisses me off, but ****ing around with them is not a good idea. That said, I'm not a violent person. Enter Mr X. X is a pretty popular *******, but by ******* I mean serious *******. He hurt me a lot as an AFC, he is pretty much the reason I became an AFC in the first place. He's also big. Very big.

And drunk. So, my girls are in a room, one of them is chucking cos she's drunk too much (silly *****), and I see a drunken X stagger across to the room. Make no mistake his plan is: he goes in, finds drunken unhappy girls, and goes as far as he can with them. I wouldn't mind, but I like these girls, I dont like him, and no one ever stands up to him. Figured now would be a good time to give him a taste of the new me;)

A fight with this guy would hurt. Even drunk, not good. But he's thinking inside the box, and I aint. I'm just saying this cos a lot on this board seem to say stand up for yourself- beat the **** out of the guy. Problem is that's not always smart, and kiddies, violence hurts. Besides, your a DJ, if you're doing your rounds right you can make even the most drunk, big, angry mutha****a adhere to his own boundaries. No violence was needed, he shouted at me, I shouted at him, he made a fist, I called his bluff, he gives in. This was possible because I made a good guess at what his boundaries were and showed him the best thing for him to do was back down. In this case, it was that he didn't actually know what he was doing- no one's ever stood up to him before- so I stood up to him with a vengance, ergo the many much shouting.

This is an extreme example. Serious alpha-male staring going on too (cant think what that looked like, I come up to the guy's shoulders...). But its an alterntive to beating the crap out of someone. We all have bastards we know- real utter bastards. But I'm just saying you can play their game and win because they're basicly playing pool with a pencil- its their self imposed limits, values and weaknesses.

I think the best way is just to hit as many buttons as possible. Go for the "never stood up to before" target, as well as using your "social status", what other's will think, making him look stupid, but you have to make him see that him hitting you will be going past his boundaires. Dont lash out if you get pushed, keep your voice loud and affermative. Just like a woman ****ing you if you show her its ok to do so, an ******* will back down if you show him he has no other option.

So, stand up for yourself, keep your cool, and beat those that try to play you at their own game. Out-class them.
 

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****, no man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked saying something like that, man.
Sorry.... I love all the talk and stuff bro, but realistically -- you'd get your ass kicked.

Maybe people where you live are more civil, but saying something like that to one of those ****s will get your ass kicked. Plain and simple.
 

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well we obviously are. Think about it- he aint gonna hit me cos if he does he'd gonna have everyone on the party on him in five seconds (if you've done your DJ thing properly). He knows it, you know it. Problem is the only way he's gonna get what he wants is by fighting you, which if you make it a very undesiarble option, he will back out of.

I'm just giving ideas on how to aviod the punchup in the first place- hey! If he's gonna hit you anyway at least you tried, and even stalled him for a bit. Just for me it worked a charm.

I dunno, everyone here is always "beat his ass!" when its about standing up for yourself. Just saying, get yourself into a position when you can screw up his social life for the next two years- and make sure he knows it, and you might aviod the fight.
 

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actually no one ever gets into fights at parties i go to except me!...****! What the hell is wrong with the people I hang out with?! Why aren't they killing each other?!

Probably cos they have no testicals. Ho hum, new school on monday, sorted!
 

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Originally posted by Smooth as Anything
****, no man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked saying something like that, man.
Office Space!
 

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Just because someone is big, muscular, etc doesn't mean he's invincible. You can take pretty much anyone down with two shots: punch them in the throat with your knuckles and punch their diaphram with a fist. This causes their windpipe to spasm (making it temporarily hard to breathe) and the second shot knocks the wind out of them. Pull this, and they will be on the floor in 10 seconds, gasping for air. You also haven't done any real physical damage to them either, which is a plus.

No one likes to mess with me, mostly because I'm 6'0" and 200 pounds. I like to lift weights a lot and I know how to defend myself as well.
 

seloifter

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Originally posted by Bishop DonJuan Jones
Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you kill someone with that throat strike move?
only if you strike them in the right place (which is pretty small) and with a very small area (a full fist would never do it)......
there is a small area right above the adams apple (as well as at the bottom of the threat) that is the softest (easiest to penetrate) part of the entire body..... and you can puncture it with a well-placed blow.

So, you probably wouldn't want to take a risk hitting him with your knuckles unless you know what you're doing (and even in this case, accidents happen). No fight is worth killing someone over (well, that's not true, but let's hope you never get in that situation :eek: )..... a full fisted blow to the throat would be much less effective, but still cause him to lose wind, where you can grab him by the shoulders and land a nice knee to the groin (and it usually doesn't look like you hit him there to people around).....

well, I've never been in a fight, so don't take my word as gospel..... but I'm pretty sure a hard knee in the groin would end any high school non-serious fight...

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anyway, back to the post.
I think it's true that alot of big guys like to walk around like they own the place and they could beat up anyone who disagrees, but the fact of the matter is 9 out of 10 of them don't have the grapes to actually get in a fight over something non-serious. Just noone's called them on it
Sometimes, you can win a fight with your eyes. It's true. I did it once, on a guy almost twice my size. He made some lame threat to me (I forget what it was over, somethign stupid), I without a word stared in his eyes, and I could feel them blazing with fire and saying "just try it you ****in *******". Then he said something like "not worth my time" and walked away.
You'd be surprised how powerful eyes can be. In fact this is the secret.

If you stand up to a "bully" and your eyes say "oh my god oh my god I hope he doesn't hit me" he'll take advantage of it. But if your eyes outstrengthen his, he'll probably back down (that is, if he has nothing to gain..... don't count on this happening if he's surrounded by his friends whom he has to impress or something)
 

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Originally posted by Bishop DonJuan Jones
Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you kill someone with that throat strike move?
You can kill someone with a punch almost anywhere. Hell, you could punch them in the arm and they could have a seizure and die.

If you are going to start a fight, you better be damn ready to accept the consequences of your actions.
 
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