Will an interested woman always initiate texting?

[teddy]

I'm talking about a HIGH interest woman.

Will they always initiate text/phone calls?

Or do you find that you still have to initiate?

 

[Amilz]

I'm wondering the same. I'm talking to this girl that seems disinterested if I text her but if I go for awhile without texting her then her texts or more upbeat.

 

[JoeMarron]

Mine does. I rarely ever initiate. I imagine most chicks would be the same way. If a woman isn't investing more into you than you are her then she simply isn't that interested. And if she's an exception to the rule then she's probably playing games and isn't worth being with. Women want to chase a high quality man. Of course this doesn't mean that we should just sit back and do nothing however. Too little effort and you'll come off as cold and uncaring.

 

[RagingBalls]

If a decent woman has high interest in you would initiate text, it would still be in a way that they would not make themselves look cheap and easy. Although they are just holding back themselves from shouting through text that they like you a lot, and would like you to make your move. They worry that by doing this, you would take them as a cheap woman.

 

[Tomo]

What if she rarely initiates but will literally reply within the minute when you message her?

 

[RagingBalls]

What if she rarely initiates but will literally reply within the minute when you message her?

To be fair, we can't generalize this as a sign of high interest always. But it does tell that a girl is sure of herself based on the text she received.

I had chatted with girls thru their skype, and i can see how many times some of them erased and re-type their messages before hitting the key. I can tell they carefully proofread their messages until it suits them.

 

[asa_don]

yes, interested women will initiate and some women will just reply to be nice, if you're getting back boring or one word texts, she really isnt interested.

 

[Bayne05]

If she likes you she'll Always text first and she'll reply instantly to your texts even if you take forever to reply to hers. Her texts will be more enthusiastic and include a lot of smiley faces and exclamation marks. A simple "Hi" just means she's bored, IL is low

 

[Icegreen]

yes, interested women will initiate and some women will just reply to be nice, if you're getting back boring or one word texts, she really isnt interested.

This.

Next

 

[VladPatton]

yes, interested women will initiate and some women will just reply to be nice, if you're getting back boring or one word texts, she really isnt interested.

^^^This...all day long...100% truth.

 

[Dgwizdal]

If she likes you she'll Always text first and she'll reply instantly to your texts even if you take forever to reply to hers. Her texts will be more enthusiastic and include a lot of smiley faces and exclamation marks. A simple "Hi" just means she's bored, IL is low

THIS. Repped except for the last line only for the fact that my Hi's are usually followed with a paragraph if I don't respond.

I very rarely text the girl first: maybe 1 for 8. That being said, it is always good measure to throw her a random winky face every once in a while just to make her hamster spin abit or show you might be thinking about her. Hell you don't even have to say anything more. Just make sure you are not too disconnect and aloof all the f*cking time: switch it up, keep her guessin.

 

[Sofomore]

There are no hard and fast rules for this. Each girl is different. I swear some of you inexperienced guys give out sh!tty advice with no evidence to back it up.

My ex of 2.5 years NEVER initiated contact before we started getting serious. I had to pretty much every time, but her IL was 110%. The look on her face when I ended it with her was heartbreaking because she loved me so much.

Stop preaching your bs answers. There isn't a rule for this because every woman is different. Sometimes I feel like the keyboard jockeys on this site just read a bunch of info and have no real experience with women. Then "preach" to their fellow jockeys.

Once you guys actually get out there you will see this sh!t is not black and white.

 

[GotED?]

There are no hard and fast rules for this. Each girl is different.

This sh!t is not black and white.

Before Judge Nismo shows up and gives his ruling and lock this thread, I have to agree with Sofomore on this one.

At age 41 and having understood women way more than I have ever imagined - there IS NO HARD FAST RULES to women. PERIOD.

They still SPIN my phucken testosteroned hamster sometimes, because JUST when you think you got the previous woman you NEXTed figured out, the new one that comes in behaves totally different.

Sure, there are certain rules we ALL AGREE on here to prevent you from having your heart jerked out by women (NEXTing, walk away, abundance mindset, etc). However, when it comes to texting, I am still very flustered and have to FEEL how each woman works. The fact is, in the beginning - this is WAR between you and HER. You are BOTH trying to establish the FRAME of what MAY become possible. The woman wants to control you and destroy your frame, the man must find a compromise in this initially and save his FACE.

I also think a woman's FEAR and INSECURITY is men's GREATEST ENEMY. So if a woman has a high level of this sh!t, she ain't gonna initiate texting you no matter what. And I would think the amount of women who have DEEP SEATED emotional issues such as these is in the majority out there (75%+). If not, you end up with a highly masculinezed B!TCH who initiates everything and stomps you down like a worm in the end.

I have the theory at this point that the HIGHER HB and HOTTER the woman, the more work you are gonna have to put in initiating things with her. This is rather a basic logical deduction - she's got more fish in the ocean to pick from, and throw back if the fish stinks to her. Also the personality and nature of the woman comes into play (shy, b!tch, HO, etc).

We men just have to STOP spinning our hamsters and JUST DO IT and SHOW INTEREST and let her respond. As ANTI-DUMP and POOK said, we men BECOME women when we try to figure out if women are INTO us. This is a woman's job to worry about, we men are suppose to be men and DO IT (action) and forget about it.

Exodus

 

[JoeMarron]

I just don't see a chick with high self esteem and confidence being too scared or unwilling to initiate anything. Even if I did find a chick who was very interested but wouldn't initiate I wouldn't bother with her. Why should I spend all this effort initiating things with her? She's a big girl, she can put in some of the work. Plus it's just not a good place for a man to be in, especially newcomers. A man who's doing all the initiating is a man who's doing alot of investing. The more we invest in someone the more we like them. Naturally if this keeps up he's going to be more into her than she is him and we all know that isn't an ideal spot to be in.

My ex of 2.5 years NEVER initiated contact before we started getting serious. I had to pretty much every time, but her IL was 110%. The look on her face when I ended it with her was heartbreaking because she loved me so much.

Did you ever give her the opportunity to initiate?

I also think a woman's FEAR and INSECURITY is men's GREATEST ENEMY. So if a woman has a high level of this sh!t, she ain't gonna initiate texting you no matter what. And I would think the amount of women who have DEEP SEATED emotional issues such as these is in the majority out there (75%+). If not, you end up with a highly masculinezed B!TCH who initiates everything and stomps you down like a worm in the end.

I have the theory at this point that the HIGHER HB and HOTTER the woman, the more work you are gonna have to put in initiating things with her. This is rather a basic logical deduction - she's got more fish in the ocean to pick from, and throw back if the fish stinks to her. Also the personality and nature of the woman comes into play (shy, b!tch, HO, etc).

Hah good point on the b!tch who initiates everything. I do think it's better for the man to be the initiator of action (dates, sex). The OP was about initiating conversation however. There is absolutely no reason why any man should be initiating all the conversation, that's a woman's domain. I do agree that for more attractive women it's gonna take more effort to get the hooked. Eventually though the dynamic needs to be switched and she needs to be the one chasing after you. It all goes back to women wanting a man of higher value than them. A person of higher value is the one being pursued not the pursuer. As outrageous as this may sound, I think there's such a thing as a woman being too submissive. I don't want a grown child that relies on me for everything. I want a grown ass woman who still defers to me but knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go after it. That type of woman isn't afraid to initiate.

 

[GotED?]

As outrageous as this may sound, I think there's such a thing as a woman being too submissive. I don't want a grown child that relies on me for everything. I want a grown ass woman who still defers to me but knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go after it. That type of woman isn't afraid to initiate.

THIS IS GOLD.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JoeMarron again.


My previous French partner was like this, 35yrs old with a 21yr old mental and emotional maturity (lived from fear and afraid of everything she does) - it breeds contentment slowly in a man when in the long run he has to make every decision for her because she can't and relies on you for just about everything in life.

But this has to be LEARNED from experience - she was mesmerizing in the beginning, because it FELT SO GOOD to have a woman rely on a man because he is strong and she supplicates, it stroked my ego.

But only from experience did I learn, this type of woman IS NOT long term relationship material. Just a girl in an adult meat suit.

Just like JoeMarron said, I DUMPED her (though she loved me dearly, life was miserable for me) and needed a REAL woman who can share equally the responsibilites of life together as mature adults are capable of doing so.

Exodus

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I just don't see a chick with high self esteem and confidence being too scared or unwilling to initiate anything. Even if I did find a chick who was very interested but wouldn't initiate I wouldn't bother with her. Why should I spend all this effort initiating things with her? She's a big girl, she can put in some of the work. Plus it's just not a good place for a man to be in, especially newcomers. A man who's doing all the initiating is a man who's doing alot of investing. The more we invest in someone the more we like them. Naturally if this keeps up he's going to be more into her than she is him and we all know that isn't an ideal spot to be in.



Did you ever give her the opportunity to initiate?



Hah good point on the b!tch who initiates everything. I do think it's better for the man to be the initiator of action (dates, sex). The OP was about initiating conversation however. There is absolutely no reason why any man should be initiating all the conversation, that's a woman's domain. I do agree that for more attractive women it's gonna take more effort to get the hooked. Eventually though the dynamic needs to be switched and she needs to be the one chasing after you. It all goes back to women wanting a man of higher value than them. A person of higher value is the one being pursued not the pursuer. As outrageous as this may sound, I think there's such a thing as a woman being too submissive. I don't want a grown child that relies on me for everything. I want a grown ass woman who still defers to me but knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go after it. That type of woman isn't afraid to initiate.

I agree with the end because I want mutual reciprocation, I do not want to literally initiate everything because I want a woman that is gonna be my partner, not a poodle, I don't want to feel like she is just along for the ride, because I obviously I don't want to do all the work

 

[Sofomore]

@Joe I agree with the initiating conversation. In my case I hit her up to hang out. No texting for conversation bs.

After a month of seeing that she didn't initiate hanging out, but EVERY time I hit her up to meet an her agreeing, I knew the IL was high enough to initiate almost everything. I grabbed her hand and brought her along into my life.

Too many guys get caught up in counting numbers. "She texted me three times and I texted her 4, better back off so her IL goes up"<--- this mindset gets you nowhere.

Just be a man and do whatever you want. If she's down for the ride, awesome, you found a girl that wants to be in YOUR reality.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

@Joe I agree with the initiating conversation. In my case I hit her up to hang out. No texting for conversation bs.

After a month of seeing that she didn't initiate hanging out, but EVERY time I hit her up to meet an her agreeing, I knew the IL was high enough to initiate almost everything. I grabbed her hand and brought her along into my life.

Too many guys get caught up in counting numbers. "She texted me three times and I texted her 4, better back off so her IL goes up"<--- this mindset gets you nowhere.

Just be a man and do whatever you want. If she's down for the ride, awesome, you found a girl that wants to be in YOUR reality.

Being a Man, as in doing what you want and when you want, it gives you control, me personally, I wouldn't see it as a chore or burden if it was impossible to come across as desperate or needy, trying too hard, unfortunately that line is very easy to cross

 

[JoeMarron]

@Joe I agree with the initiating conversation. In my case I hit her up to hang out. No texting for conversation bs.

After a month of seeing that she didn't initiate hanging out, but EVERY time I hit her up to meet an her agreeing, I knew the IL was high enough to initiate almost everything. I grabbed her hand and brought her along into my life.

Too many guys get caught up in counting numbers. "She texted me three times and I texted her 4, better back off so her IL goes up"<--- this mindset gets you nowhere.

Just be a man and do whatever you want. If she's down for the ride, awesome, you found a girl that wants to be in YOUR reality.

Ah I see. I still would like a woman to at least do some of the date initiating but I can see how your situation would be enjoyable. I definitely wouldn't advocate being obsessive about who's initiating more. It's easy to have a general idea of when you're texting too much without making spreadsheets to determine the exact number. I think doing whatever we want can lead to a bad place. There have been plenty of times where I wanted to say things to a woman that ultimately would've just made me look like a needy supplicating pvssy. Hell sometimes I actually went ahead and said it anyways with horrible results.

Being a Man, as in doing what you want and when you want, it gives you control, me personally, I wouldn't see it as a chore or burden if it was impossible to come across as desperate or needy, trying too hard, unfortunately that line is very easy to cross

Exactly. The dude that just broke up with his BDP ex really wants to call her up and tell her how much he loves her and would do anything to get her back. A certain degree of control over our emotions is necessary when dealing with women.

 

[Pardner]

There are no hard and fast rules for this. Each girl is different. I swear some of you inexperienced guys give out sh!tty advice with no evidence to back it up.

My ex of 2.5 years NEVER initiated contact before we started getting serious. I had to pretty much every time, but her IL was 110%. The look on her face when I ended it with her was heartbreaking because she loved me so much.

Stop preaching your bs answers. There isn't a rule for this because every woman is different. Sometimes I feel like the keyboard jockeys on this site just read a bunch of info and have no real experience with women. Then "preach" to their fellow jockeys.

Once you guys actually get out there you will see this sh!t is not black and white.

Why the anger? I find it hard to believe that she never initiated one conversation to you. Yeah, women are different but for the most part interested women will initiate something at some point. Guys who are chasing ALWAYS initiates convos.