Will a woman that leaves her partner for you necessarily do the same to you?

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Like, does this happen all the time? What are you experiences with this? I am curious.
 

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yep everytime in all the scenarios ive known with friends etc
 

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I never say never but, IMO, people don't change. That's why screening is so important.

When we have established a level of comfort, I like to ask my potentials what caused their last breakup.

What I have learned is...

If they explain it to me and place zero accountability/responsibility on their own shoulders (i.e. it's all the other person's fault) then this is a person that doesn't learn from there life or mistakes, and WILL be repeating them, probably with me.

As well, the reason for the breakup, the one they hold their partner totally accountable for, usually rears it's ugly head eventually with the person you are taking to (because there was no growth)

Listen for someone to explain why their last relationship failed and, if they blame the other person entirely, ask them what role they played in the scenario.
If their reply is defensive, red flag. There's no growth there. II don't do "plates" but you men should consider these women as plates in the moment, and screen hard.
If their reply is thoughtful and places some level of accountability on themselves, this is a very good sign. Still screen but she might have some good potential.
 

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I had a seven year relationship with a woman who was with another guy when I met her. The other guy wasn't that into her and was sleeping around on her (which she didn't know at the time but could sense something was up). He wasn't treating her well and didn't take the relationship seriously. She saw me as much better than him so she tried me out and found that I was indeed better. We were together seven years until I decided to end the relationship.

You could look at the situation of girls leaving their partners for you in two ways:
1. That the nature of women, especially women who leave their partner for you, is to constantly be looking to jump ship for the next best thing (hypergamy).
2. That a lot of women are dating guys who aren't that great. The guys could range from downright awful, to "just enough to keep me from deciding to be completely single and lonely." Based on my observations, it seems that nearly every attractive woman is seeing someone, whether it's casual dating or LTR because it's better than being alone and it's not hard for them to get dates, but just because they are seeing someone doesn't mean it's the guy they see themselves with long-term.

I think #2 is much more common than #1. If you are confident in yourself, believe you have your sh*t together, and have a lot to offer to a woman, then I would say you are better off than 97% of guys out there and the risk of her leaving you for someone else is low. Women typically don't leave if you are an awesome partner, but of course, there are always exceptions.
 

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Another spin on this situation....

I view people who stay in less than stellar relationships as weak. Why do you need the assurance of another warm body before you will find your self esteem and end a relationship that isn't fulfilling?

That's not the type of person I can respect.
 

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NO. As long as you remain useful to her/she is dependent on you.
 

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I had a seven year relationship with a woman who was with another guy when I met her. The other guy wasn't that into her and was sleeping around on her (which she didn't know at the time but could sense something was up). He wasn't treating her well and didn't take the relationship seriously. She saw me as much better than him so she tried me out and found that I was indeed better. We were together seven years until I decided to end the relationship.

You could look at the situation of girls leaving their partners for you in two ways:
1. That the nature of women, especially women who leave their partner for you, is to constantly be looking to jump ship for the next best thing (hypergamy).
2. That a lot of women are dating guys who aren't that great. The guys could range from downright awful, to "just enough to keep me from deciding to be completely single and lonely." Based on my observations, it seems that nearly every attractive woman is seeing someone, whether it's casual dating or LTR because it's better than being alone and it's not hard for them to get dates, but just because they are seeing someone doesn't mean it's the guy they see themselves with long-term.

I think #2 is much more common than #1. If you are confident in yourself, believe you have your sh*t together, and have a lot to offer to a woman, then I would say you are better off than 97% of guys out there and the risk of her leaving you for someone else is low. Women typically don't leave if you are an awesome partner, but of course, there are always exceptions.
Much truth in this, especially number 2 case.
I see men and women in relationships just for the sake of being in one.
Obviously men and women in this type of case +will+ actively look for better.
 

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"Will a woman that leaves her partner for you necessarily do the same to you?"

The odds are against you.

It's a typical pattern, these days.
 

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I knew a female who would have a long standing boyfriend . Her system would to be to weaken the boyfriend and to keep her single game intact. I met one of her bfs over the years. He seemed kinda gay . Now what I know about life I'm sure he didn't start out that way . She was cheating and lieing to him, he was probably being nice and loving her and you trade your balls in for a vagina . Basically she liked keeping a cuck.

People tend to replicate their patterns .

Relationship that starts as a result of an affair has a seriously high rate of failure . It's because of the energy about the start, it all started on a lie . It's bad energy .
 
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Monkey brancher is not any less needy by virtue of her monkey branching lol, quite the opposite
You can choose to view the situation whatever way you want to.

In my world, people who stay in bad relationships are weak. People who decided to stay in bad relationships untill they find another warm body to swing to are disfunctional people and WAY beneath my standards.

Have fun with your choices.
 

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You can choose to view the situation whatever way you want to.

In my world, people who stay in bad relationships are weak. People who decided to stay in bad relationships untill they find another warm body to swing to are disfunctional people and WAY beneath my standards.

Have fun with your choices.
It is weak
 

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by assigning the simple label "monkey brancher" to a female that hops from relationship to relationship, and thinking you'll be different, is a way to fool yourself about who she really is on a cognitive level.
You guys have really assigned quite a simple minded definition to these types of females. Sometimes it is true, they are making a primal move, sure. Most of the time a person that happily exhibits this kind of behavior is ****ed in the head.

You decide if it's worth worth your time on a person when you know they are fvcked in the head

I have better things to do.
 

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NO. As long as you remain useful to her/she is dependent on you.
This is true for all women. I will caveat this by saying, in addition, that if she believes you are the best she can do she will stay. However, if she has the opportunity to monkey branch to a better dude, then she will. So it's not just about you meeting her needs, it's about who BEST can meet her needs.

No point getting ticked about this... it's just how the universe created women.
 

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by assigning the simple label "monkey brancher" to a female that hops from relationship to relationship, and thinking you'll be different, is a way to fool yourself about who she really is on a cognitive level.
You guys have really assigned quite a simple minded definition to these types of females. Sometimes it is true, they are making a primal move, sure. Most of the time a person that happily exhibits this kind of behavior is ****ed in the head.

You decide if it's worth worth your time on a person when you know they are fvcked in the head

I have better things to do.
This!

This is normal chick behavior, tens of thousands of years of evolution have developed this bouncing and cheating behavior as a survival strategy that works for the weaker gender of a dimorphic tournament species (humans). Woman are acting like women in their purest natural form.

Societies impose shame and punishment on women who act on their nature. The problem is that in modern western society, women are not held accountable for their behavior. They can "go girl!" and do whatever the fvck they want and they are cheered on. Here is the depressing part if you are having a problem with this.... there isn't a fvcking thing you can do about this... NOTHING. You can not turn back the social clock and impose morality, because the cat is out of the bag... you are not getting that cat back in unless the cat is completely declawed and it's teeth removed.... what that means is you have to strip the rights away from women... take away their right to vote and take away their rights to jointly owned property, and the rights to their children, then you can fix this.

Since that is NOT going to happen, then all you can do is just fvck them, date, have some fun and let them ruin some other dude's life. Either that, or you can play Russian roulette with 6 round revolver, with three bullets in and hope you are the 50% that doesn't get his head blown off.

The funny part is even if you 'win' and are not immediately killed in that game, you then have a 50-50 chance of being in a relationship that is really happy... because you have to work your fvcking @ss off to make her believe you are the best she can do.
 

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All of them have some level of monkey branch mentality in them. I didn't truly realize this until observing female behavior in a large social circle the past 2yrs. Even observing ex-girlfriends social media I have seen it. If she is at least an HB7 and somewhat social, she will have multiple options before she turns the light off on her current relationship. Seen it a million times. And I've been the guy they run to a few times. Many haven't even let the kum dry from the last dude.

Why do you think women always ask "so when did your last relationship end" and give you a hard time if they think it was too soon?....Its them projecting because they are the absolute worst offenders of jumping out of one relationship into another. Every time a chic gives me static on this, I start prying into her past and call bull**** every time.

Even BeExcellent has told us "high value" women don't stay single long!

And what RangerMIKE just posted if gospel. Call those that agree with him jaded and angry all day long, but spend more time out there and you will see the same thing.
 
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Why do you think women always ask "so when did your last relationship end" and give you a hard time if they think it was too soon?....Its them projecting because they are the absolute worst offenders of jumping out of one relationship into another.
Great point. I've noticed this too but never considered that it is them projecting.
 

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Why do you think women always ask "so when did your last relationship end" and give you a hard time if they think it was too soon?....Its them projecting because they are the absolute worst offenders of jumping out of one relationship into another. Every time a chic gives me static on this, I start prying into her past and call bull**** every time.
This is exactly what I come for in this forum. Thank you, Sir. I just gained perspective.
 

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Another spin on this situation....

I view people who stay in less than stellar relationships as weak. Why do you need the assurance of another warm body before you will find your self esteem and end a relationship that isn't fulfilling?

That's not the type of person I can respect.
It's not that simple in some cases, especially if you are married to them and have kids. I guess if you have no feelings for your kids, sure, get up and leave. If you don't mind losing half your finances? Sure, say the hell with it and move on down the road. You pile up a good bit of regrets by doing that. I can never say this enough, men have to lead, you have to screen, stop thinking with your d*ck and raise your value so they are chasing you. You do those things, as a guy, you're much more likely to be happy.
 

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