Why Women Give Bad Dating Advice

Francisco d'Anconia

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I found this article on Askmen.com, it's pretty interesting. Much of it has been expounded upon here and there in the forum but it may make even more sense compiled in a full article. Here's a link to the actual article.

Why Women Give Bad Dating Advice
 

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because.......

they give bad advice on almost everthing.

Critical thinking ability is correlated with mathematical intelligence, not with verbal intelligence-which the females have.
 

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isn't it obvious? if they gave all the good dating advice, then they wouldn't have control.

i EXPECT girls to say "ohhh this is bad and that's bad" YET THEY DO THAT SHYT ANYWAYS! They just don't want you knowing they like doing it. whatever bad thing it is. I never take what a girls saying to me with any credibility because afterall men are the ones not to be trusted and women are :p <-- don't wanna start shyt, but i hear from my friends ALL THE TIME about the girl not trusting them and they didn't do ANYTHING.

It's funny how a girl can have pictures of Brad Pitt on her walls, saying how they love him. but if he wasn't famous and on tv and was walking down the street and she didn't know him, you wouldn't see that same guys pics on her wall. He'd be seen as any other average joe that can buy her flowers and take her to dinner, but the game is coincidentally different when they don't know them.
 

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The answer to is very simple. Women give bad dating advice because they tell you what you WANT to hear, not what you NEED to hear. Also, they tell you what they WISH was true, not what actually is (this is partly due to pressure brought on by society and social factors).
 

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Men here will flat out tell you how it's gonna be. Women on the other hand will soften the blow and offer a twisted view which is padded with sweetness rather than the dark truth.

For example:

A woman friend of mines I know got stood up at a cafe a couple days ago, she even waited 2 hours for him. She claims she never called him (didn't believe it) but the guy that she was going to meet never showed up.

Her other woman friend said this "Maybe he was sick and couldn't make it"

I said this "He didn't like you, move on"

The other woman friend said "That's not so, maybe he could be busy or whatever" I replied "The guy didn't offer to make it up nor even called in a timely matter, Ditch him" again this female friend said that "Things happen"
 

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I think women give fine advice.

Too many people here are brainwashed by doc love and think that every woman will tell you to be a nice guy and sh!t. Some girls know the game very very well, and WILL steer you in the right direction.
 

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You CAN'T give good verbal advice if you're not consious of actions. You might as well ask a natural DJ who never thought why his tactics worked and you'd get back equally useless advice. You guys overanalyze...
 

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We wouldn't have this forum if women gave good advise. ;0
 

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Originally posted by flexion_
We wouldn't have this forum if women gave good advise. ;0
We wouldn't have this forum if more would just give HEAD!:crackup:
 

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article

Doc Love article whay a hypocrite!...don't use online dating gurus? He writes a book and sells i!
 

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Guys, what about asking her how good the new hairstyle is on you?

Cause im about to do that :confused:
 

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Originally posted by Rogerman
Guys, what about asking her how good the new hairstyle is on you?

Cause im about to do that :confused:
I wouldn't ask a girl that. Sounds like your seeking approval from them. As long as you like the new hairstyle that's the only thing that matters. Plus do you honestly think a girl would say your hair style sucks?
 

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TillTheEndOfTime seems to get it.

Most women you come across (including your mom) will give you the same advice because they have been socially conditioned into thinking that this is the right behavior for a man when courting a woman. Assume for a second that your biological father was a jerk and after your mom got pregnant, he left her. Do you think your mom will tell you to be a jerk to get women even though she fell for a jerk?

Similarly, do you think your female friends who may be dating jerk BFs will tell you the best way to get women is to treat them like sh*t? If they ever gave you accurate advice, it's equivalent to them admitting that they like guys that treat them like sh*t (who would want to admit that?). Women in abusive relationships will likely tell her guy friends to treat their GFs right and yet the same woman keeps returning to her abusive BF the same night she gives such advice.

Maximus_Decimus
 

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Originally posted by Skullcrusher
Men here will flat out tell you how it's gonna be.
Not a cut on your post, but God I wish this were true. The problem is most guys simply parrot the words women have told them over the years when they asked them "What do women want in a guy?" and then think it works since they got it from the horse's mouth. Unfortunately, too many guys, especially recently, have bought the same line women have been telling for ages thinking it's a way to put themselves at an advantage when all it does is disqualify not only them, but the poor suckers who hear 'chick advice' from another guy and the cycle continues.

In all honesty, I really think the 'chick advice' phenomenon is a socio-evolutionary fail-safe device meant to filter women's selection process of less desirable men from more desirable (competition worthy) men. On some level of consciousness women know they're full of sh!t when they offer up the 'standard' chick advice this article illustrated. They know they're being less than genuine when they see this advice regularly betrayed in their own behaviors. Women (and now men) repeat in article after article of how well developed the female capacity is for language and communication, so it follows that they have to know to some, maybe subconscious, degree that they are being less than helpful if not deliberately misleading. Even the mothers with the best interests of their son's at stake still parrot these responses. It's like a female imperative. Why?

For the answer, all you have to do is look at the bios of the single women on most any dating service. When asked to describe the characteristics they find desirable in a man, the single most common responses are confidence, decisiveness, independence. Traits that would require a man to be a man and have the foresight and perseverance not to take things at face value. The guy with the capacity to call a woman on her own bluff with a confidence that implies she is to be worthy of him rather than the other way around is the man to be competed for. Essentially the 'chick speak', 'chick advice' phenomenon is a sh!t test writ large on a social scale. And even your own mother and sisters are in on it, expecting you to get the message and see the challenge for what it really is.

Most guys are natural pragmatists, we look for the shortest most efficient way between two points. It follows then that if we want sex, and women have the sex we want, we ought to ask them what conditions they require from us in order for us to get it. The problem is that women don't want to tell us this, because in doing so it makes us less independent and compromising in our own identities in order to get at her sexuality. This is counter to the decisive, independent and masculine man they really want and is evidenced in their behaviors. He should know what women want without asking because he's observed them often enough, been successful with them often enough, and taken the efforts to make decisions for himself based on their behaviors. This makes him the commodity in the face of a constant contradiction of her own and other women's motives, words and behaviors.
 

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Beautiful Tomassi, beautiful
 

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I think for women, it's basically how the feel that decides who they date. A less secure, less confident woman will be attracted to a guy who treats her like crap. She would rather have it this way because she feels connected.

A woman with good virtues, self-esteem will likely date someone they that is less of a jerk and more of a 'nice' guy, so long as not a doormat.

The advice you often hear is from women that have been with jerks, and know they SHOULD be with someone more decent, but they can't seem to do that.

There have been some 'good' girls that have become damaged because their first boyfriend was a jerk, and sent them thru a viscous cycle of dating jerks.
 

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Lump all women into a group.

Stupid.

Ask me for advice.

I will tell you the truth.

Try me.
 

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based on my rather limited range of conversation, friday night went like this:

[wingman and I sneak up on a pair of likely looking girls]

[me] 'Hi, I wonder if you can help us out, we're trying to find out what assets women think men are looking for in a women'

[them] 'sex'

[me] 'oh, that's where we're going wrong [wingman], there was us just thinking most men were looking for long legs, big breasts, a pretty face and a head full of junk!'

[them] 'pardon?'

[me] 'well, that's usually the case. We'd not included sex - 2nd thing on our minds. I'm warming up to the idea though. I've always been looking for someone with a good idea of an intelligent conversation and preferably tall (I'm 6ft 5ins)'

after a few laughs we were on our way. Not quite sure where I could take it after that. There's definately an inebriation level of 6 out of 10 for that line of conversation though...
 

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Originally posted by tim_n
based on my rather limited range of conversation, friday night went like this:

[wingman and I sneak up on a pair of likely looking girls]

[me] 'Hi, I wonder if you can help us out, we're trying to find out what assets women think men are looking for in a women'

[them] 'sex'

[me] 'oh, that's where we're going wrong [wingman], there was us just thinking most men were looking for long legs, big breasts, a pretty face and a head full of junk!'

[them] 'pardon?'

[me] 'well, that's usually the case. We'd not included sex - 2nd thing on our minds. I'm warming up to the idea though. I've always been looking for someone with a good idea of an intelligent conversation and preferably tall (I'm 6ft 5ins)'

after a few laughs we were on our way. Not quite sure where I could take it after that. There's definately an inebriation level of 6 out of 10 for that line of conversation though...
How do you think it would have went if you were sober?
 
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