Why most of us were unsuccesful with women while in our 20's

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Because they were busy dating men 5, 10, 15 years older.

I found it much easier to pull women in their 20's while in my 30's and now that I am 40, it still happens.
That's a good imposing statement without any facts or logic to back it up.

I found it much easier to,pull women in their 20s while in my 20s than in my 30s. In my experience, they are easier to meet, less damaged, and you have more in common with a 23 year old girl when you are 27 than when you are 37. But hey, if you can pull a good looking 27 year old in your 40s, more power to you.
 

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Really?

Most of us in our 20s seem to have jobs, hope guys on here are not unemployed lol.
Most of you in your 20s can NOT support a family. It turns out having enough to support a family turns women on.

The vast majority of women will NOT trade a man in his 30's with a job for a younger, prettier man in his 20's without a job. They might try to see both, but if they pick one, it will be the older guy with a job.
 

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Most of you in your 20s can NOT support a family. It turns out having enough to support a family turns women on.

The vast majority of women will NOT trade a man in his 30's with a job for a younger, prettier man in his 20's without a job. They might try to see both, but if they pick one, it will be the older guy with a job.
The most cunning will seek to be inseminated by the younger prettier man while playing the older man as a cuckold.
 

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I hadn't read da dynamically's post yet, but you younger single guys should read about testosterone. Oh, that.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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I'm 30 and i've been cleaning up on the 18-23 circuit in the last 6 months

I would have been able to do it years ago if i had the knowledge.

the main reason people in that age group dont do well is knowledge gap

Sometimes there is "competition" from younger guys <25 and they play themselves off the table every time. No hate, i've been there, they just don't know yet.
 

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The most cunning will seek to be inseminated by the younger prettier man while playing the older man as a cuckold.
Studies actually show that all other things being equal, the man chooses the younger woman and the woman chooses the older man. Why? Both lead to a greater chance for offspring.

You see, if a man is 45 and looks 25, chances are he has much better genes than the 25 year old who might be bald with a cane by age 45.
 

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Just because you sucked with women in your 20s and killing it in your 30s does not mean girls prefer older guys. This girls chase older guys thing is nothing but you trying to compensate your failures with bullshvt. In addition, I have no idea what women y'all are chasing. Y'all could be cleaning it up on plenty of whales for as hell as I would know. Also, your market range of women expands. For example, Once you're 30, it's not as awkward to date older women as if you were 20.
 

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Conversely, I was very successful in my twenties because I inadvertently had a zero fcks attitude.

It has nothing to do with jobs or any other thing than not trying too hard and being in half way decent physical shape. It's not like poor college students never get laid.....

I'd say the reason why some were not successful in their twenties owed mainly to trying too hard, still running around like horny teenagers.

Sometimes there is "competition" from younger guys <25 and they play themselves off the table every time. No hate, i've been there, they just don't know yet.
This is ultimately where men of any age can fall down; i.e. by appearing to be competing.

I lose count the number of times I've seen off so called 'competitors'. I've only ever seen competition from myself - i.e. not fcking a situation up. I couldn't give a fck if some chick I've been working on goes off with some other guy. Good for them. There's 10 other women in the place I can move along too.

All we have to do is be cool, calm and collected, hold half an hour of conversation, be interesting and in good enough shape to pique attraction, then start escalating physically.

Basically, don't be a complete bore, don't behave like a creep and don't be too fat or too skinny. It's really not any more complicated than that.
 

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A chiropractor and Yoga can help tremendously. One exercise I do is to make an L shape with my butt against the wall and my legs straight up the wall, and then I hoist myself to a \ position and then slowly lower back down to a L position, rolling along my spine. The spine realigns naturally when you press down on the whole thing at once. Also try Curamed (Turmeric extract) for pain relief.
I swear by yoga. After I was wounded in a road-side bomb attack in 2008, since I was in an APC, most of the damage was muscular-skeletal (Jacked up spinal discs, shoulder, knee) the Army and later the VA had me hopped up on pain meds, and sh!t kept getting worst. Three years ago I started practicing yoga and not only is the pain manageable without drugs, but I feel better physically and emotionally.

The first time I practiced yoga I was in absolute agony and swore I would not be doing that again... then later that night I slept like a log for the first time in 6 years. Been doing it ever since. The first 6 months I could only do once a week... then joined a hot yoga studio and practice 3-4 times a week. There is all kinds of yoga, Vinyasa yoga in a hot studio is what I practice. The heat helps you burn more calories, and at 50 years old, the warm air helps with flexibility. But if you want hard core HOT and difficult yoga, there is Bikram... most men I know prefer that since all the practices are the same, with VERY high temperatures, and it's longer than a standard practice.

There are studios with too much chanting and spiritual BS, but you just have to read reviews and try some out. If that is what you want. I'm mostly in it for the physical benefits, but you can not help but be emotionally effected by it. The best positive side effect for men is that you eventually learn not to give a fvck about sh!t you can not control. You learn to accept things for how they are and not worry so much about things in the past, and just live in the moment and not have any expectations, which is the root cause of negative emotions.
 

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A chiropractor and Yoga can help tremendously. One exercise I do is to make an L shape with my butt against the wall and my legs straight up the wall, and then I hoist myself to a \ position and then slowly lower back down to a L position, rolling along my spine. The spine realigns naturally when you press down on the whole thing at once. Also try Curamed (Turmeric extract) for pain relief.
I have heard the same thing before too, that if you lay down upside down in that / position on some rack you can buy, it realigns your spine in about 10-15 minutes. But your method sounds a lot cheaper than buying this stupid rack. Is there a Youtube video you can link to that demonstrates this because I want to give it a try and want to be sure not to mess anything up.
 

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I have heard the same thing before too, that if you lay down upside down in that / position on some rack you can buy, it realigns your spine in about 10-15 minutes. But your method sounds a lot cheaper than buying this stupid rack. Is there a Youtube video you can link to that demonstrates this because I want to give it a try and want to be sure not to mess anything up.
No, but I might make one.
 

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Not sure why everyone is dealing absolutes. Women in their 20s mostly bang guys in their twenties because women in their early twenties typically associate with guys in their twenties as part of their social groups and commonality of life experience.

That being said women also can interact with older men as part of their life experience.

It's not an either or proposition. Many men by 40 are married and/or haven't taken care of themselves so they typically price themselves out of the early female market, or men price themselves out based on lack of belief that they can land 20-23 year old women whether that's a self limiting belief or one grounded in fear of feminist/social backlash.

As mentioned no one is guaranteed 18-24 women and as you get older there are advantages and disadvantages at play.
 

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Not sure why everyone is dealing absolutes. Women in their 20s mostly bang guys in their twenties because women in their early twenties typically associate with guys in their twenties as part of their social groups and commonality of life experience.

That being said women also can interact with older men as part of their life experience.

It's not an either or proposition. Many men by 40 are married and/or haven't taken care of themselves so they typically price themselves out of the early female market, or men price themselves out based on lack of belief that they can land 20-23 year old women whether that's a self limiting belief or one grounded in fear of feminist/social backlash.

As mentioned no one is guaranteed 18-24 women and as you get older there are advantages and disadvantages at play.
Young women are like the fountain of youth, especially when they love you. Nothing will inspire you more - especially if they should leave you.

And I love when people say it's about money. You think I would pay my hard-earned money to upgrade a frumpy, grumpy, chunky woman in her mid-40's with three kids, manic depression, four tattoos and HPV (and if you're married to her your balls in a vice) to a gorgeous, sparkling, sweet young 20-year-old woman with no kids, no tattoos and a vagina that tastes like candy (who leaves when you pull out the butt plug)? Who would DO such a thing?? (And how many hours per day will the upgrade cost? Only 45 minutes you say??)
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Not sure why everyone is dealing absolutes. Women in their 20s mostly bang guys in their twenties because women in their early twenties typically associate with guys in their twenties as part of their social groups and commonality of life experience.

That being said women also can interact with older men as part of their life experience.

It's not an either or proposition. Many men by 40 are married and/or haven't taken care of themselves so they typically price themselves out of the early female market, or men price themselves out based on lack of belief that they can land 20-23 year old women whether that's a self limiting belief or one grounded in fear of feminist/social backlash.

As mentioned no one is guaranteed 18-24 women and as you get older there are advantages and disadvantages at play.
If you're in your 40s you're probably married or divorced.

At that point your main access to women in their 20s is strippers. If you have a full time job which you need to have to survive, you're at a disadvantage compared to the college football players and frat guys who are slaying.

If you're old you simply cannot rely on social circle game to get 18 year olds. That's a huge factor.
 

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  • If you're in your 40s you're probably married or divorced.
(If you were naïve and signed a bad contract and failed to maintain attraction, yes. I never got married.)
  • At that point your main access to women in their 20s is strippers.
(False. Half of the young girls I sleep with are not strippers. And the strippers I date have been better girls overall. You wish you could get strippers to sleep with you for free. Every man does. Only a liar would say otherwise.)

Seeing as you are younger and pretending that means you are better off, prove it: show me a girl who is hotter than my 21 year old.
  • If you have a full time job which you need to have to survive, you're at a disadvantage compared to the college football players and frat guys who are slaying.
(Wait, what do college football players do to survive? Rely on student loans underwritten by the people who "need a job to survive"? Did you read the part about my girlfriend moving out of the apartment with the underemployed 23 year old bodybuilder to date a 46 year old with a good career? In reality, college and frat guys are in a temporary 4 year fantasy land - Hmm, a "man" worshipping frat boys... ListenToOlly, is that you? In the 2000's women were cougars. Now they date guys twice their age. Why? Women ultimately need men with jobs, not little boys on loans)
  • If you're old you simply cannot rely on social circle game to get 18 year olds.
(40's is not old. It's simply not young. Nobody wants 18 year olds - you are teeming with rage as you are young with no job and no hot women).
 

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  • If you're in your 40s you're probably married or divorced.
(If you were naïve and signed a bad contract and failed to maintain attraction, yes. I never got married.)
  • At that point your main access to women in their 20s is strippers.
(False. Half of the young girls I sleep with are not strippers. And the strippers I date have been better girls overall. You wish you could get strippers to sleep with you for free. Every man does. Only a liar would say otherwise.)

Seeing as you are younger and pretending that means you are better off, prove it: show me a girl who is hotter than my 21 year old.
  • If you have a full time job which you need to have to survive, you're at a disadvantage compared to the college football players and frat guys who are slaying.
(Wait, what do college football players do to survive? Rely on student loans underwritten by the people who "need a job to survive"? Did you read the part about my girlfriend moving out of the apartment with the underemployed 23 year old bodybuilder to date a 46 year old with a good career? In reality, college and frat guys are in a temporary 4 year fantasy land - Hmm, a "man" worshipping frat boys... ListenToOlly, is that you? In the 2000's women were cougars. Now they date guys twice their age. Why? Women ultimately need men with jobs, not little boys on loans)
  • If you're old you simply cannot rely on social circle game to get 18 year olds.
(40's is not old. It's simply not young. Nobody wants 18 year olds - you are teeming with rage as you are young with no job and no hot women).
lol interesting how you think everything is a personal attack on you. You're not that important. Try being less insecure about dating younger women, it's unhealthy. I have no reason to brag about women I'm with.
 

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lol interesting how you think everything is a personal attack on you. You're not that important. Try being less insecure about dating younger women, it's unhealthy. I have no reason to brag about women I'm with.
You're implying that you can get hotter girls than I can because you are younger. Prove it.

You are claiming that "frat boys are slaying it". Who the f*ck talks about frat boys with a gleam in their eye, in an attempt to thumb their noses at people with jobs?

I coined a new term for you: LG-EBT.
 

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You're implying that you can get hotter girls than I can because you are younger. Prove it.

You are claiming that "frat boys are slaying it". Who the f*ck talks about frat boys with a gleam in their eye, in an attempt to thumb their noses at people with jobs?

I coined a new term for you: LG-EBT.
It sounds like you're jealous that the guys in college are taking your women. You've posted pics of women you are supposedly banging and I laughed. They are UGLY. I'd rather jack off than bang your women. Thanks for proving me right that younger guys bang hotter chicks.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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