Not pedestalizing. I'm a in shape attractive guy in a big city. Online dating isn't hard. The problem is that it's a shítshow. As I mentioned earlier women who use OLD typically have a limited amount of options for a number of reasons: kids, not that attractive, fat
I wasn't going to do this but I see you made a comment on my video which you obviously didn't watch. If you did you would of seen an attractive "woman" in it. I even did a video on just the what you guys call HAWWWWTTT chicks on POF once.
But yeah a lot of fatties as if that should matter, yes a lot of married females again as if they were forcing you to date them. I really don't get it when you guys who try preaching and go against online dating.
I've been coaching guys since the very early 2000's. I was even on this site in 2006 in it's early days. I've seen you're type so many times before. You come here and want to be the big dogs and get your internet kudo's and high 5's. Hey I can dig it Smooth Mooves. I see you even created a brand for yourself. Okay.
What guys like you don't get is that there truly is more than one way in this dating game. YOU think everything should revolve around what you believe.
I truly wasn't going to do this and I don't debate anymore. I educate.
But here is the weakness of your approach.
Back in 2007 I saw the faces of the members who came here. This is when pua ism was growing strong.
You yourself stated that your in shape and all this and that.
You think everyone else is at least normal looking. Not to diss members here but opening the door of reality.
If a man is having trouble with the dating game then either he has a bad vibe and or isn't the best looking guy around. That is why the end up on sites like this.
So you used a very lame point of:
The celebrity analogy we often use can be daft but makes sense here:
"Do you think Bradd Pitt ever picked chicks up online?"
"Do you think Scarlett Johansson met her husband online?"
Before you start up...yes yes I know I know you said:
Yes, those are extremes but they illustrate my point. People of value don't OLD because they already have options. You mention that you find people who shoot down OLD to have not had any success with it. I believe the contrary. I find that people who advocate so heavily for OLD have poor social circles and use it as a crutch. Then after sleeping with a bunch of HB5s they come tell everyone what their missing.
1. The majority of men in this community are not even close to brad pitt (which is the example I used back in the days on this very site).
2. The vast majority jack off to internet porn and due to that have no idea what a real woman in the real world should look like. I won't even go into the misconstrued ideology of sex from that junk.
3. So when a fella looks like this:
Your talking about not enough smoking hot females on their? When there actually are smoking hot females. Probably you ho chased at them and got burned so it hurt your ego and now you are dead set against internet dating is what usually happens to guys like you who preach hateration. against what you guys are calling OLD which I think (sorry don't keep up with internet nonsense terms) means Online Dating or something like that.
4. One of the problems that I deal with in this community is the cheap and superficiality of the males. They can look like a 5 or a 6 but they want to date dimes or 10's. I really hate that false reality. They buy into the old narrative ad work of yes you can be short fat and balding and still date 6' tall models.
5. So when you start talking about uglies are all over a site it kinda turns my guts to be honest with you. I see a person who does that as not even having a clue on the realities of life. Not to insult you know just educate you.
6. I do believe that a player does need to be in the nightclubs (probably a place guys like you shun cause you will say the women are not hot enough to hide your fear), the toughest but best place to meet women. 64% of the women go to a club to meet men.
7. Here is why YOU sucked at internet dating. You threw up a quick profile blasted some cheap photos and then spammed the place and got NOTHING from any girl who looked decent and now your pissed off. Now you're gonna deny that so I expect it. Sorry I'm not here to argue but instead give my advice and those who like it can use it.
8. Internet dating SHOULDN'T be the only thing you do! You should be using it to supplement your dating or I should say MARKETING since I teach run your life like a BUSINESS. Yes you are marketers fellas. You're marketing yourself in the dating niche. Don't worry I'm about to sum this up. I have to break ideas down into BABY STEP's.
9. Mon's through thur's you supplement your time after work with getting on line and checking your online traps. That's your profile. Nightclubs open thur-sat. That is your offline game time.
10. You mentioned something about girls of value not going online. Here is some reality. I spent over 20 years having fun, ****ing women from nightclubs fella. 20 years. Think about it. Here is what I learned about clubs and online dating. Women and many males have this idea that you can't meet anyone decent in the clubs after spending time there.
Before you begin...yes 64% go there to meet men but the veneer and excitement WEARS OFF! They get tired of cheap superficial dudes grabbing their ass when they just try to walk to the bathroom. They get tired of guys who can't dance, get drunk and try to fondle them (no I'm not a femnazi lover, you see I know your mind kid). They get fed up with the quality of dudes they meet so they have seen the ads about E-harmony and they just want to settle down (your gonna think after being stretched out and used up-go on and keep thinking that bull****). So they GO to OLD looking for love. Yes the HOT ones do go there and many of them have gotten smart about it.
They will still go to clubs and like a real player (since women are natural players) supplement their time with some online dating. Yeah. Look at the growth of TINDER.
By the way a fella I am coaching met his second girlfriend off Tinder. Now your gonna respond with some crap about promoting myself. Don't bother kid. Okay. I won't be back to this thread. Send me a PM if you want to.
Anyways Tinder has changed. Hot chicks are not BANGING anymore off their like they USED to. They are stating upfront they are not dropping the panties. They want boyfriends.
Now I am/was a PLAYER. So as a player nothing says I EVER gotta give em that. Yeah I am talking about player lies. Hey it's what we do. Don't hate the player and don't hate the game.
I've had profiles up online even though I don't do anything but use them to teach from and in my business, but I've seen what is on these sites. I get uglies as you mentioned. I get FATTIES, I get averages...and I also get a few...just a few....HOT women emailing me.
You're gonna talk some smoke about settling. Don't. You're gonna posture for your crowd here but ...nahh don't bother. PROVE ME WRONG to them instead.
Sorry I've got years and years on you kid.
Good luck with that.
Again not trying to make an enemy or step on your godly hood here I just can't let guys like YOU sway this market in a wrong direction.
I now bow out of this thread.
Good luck to you other fella's.
Go find your own truth. Don't listen to negative sooth sayers on a forum.
Build a power profile that will pull females as you've seen in my video. 31 emails (actually it ended up being 35). Some uglies. No real fatties, and a couple of girls I would ****. I don[t rate women like a child with that numbering thing. I also am not immature and think she should only be a perfect 10 which doesn't exist. I've dated a few of what would be called dimes and I just didn't care for em. Spoiled and think the world owes them even though a few tried to be fake about their beauty by this false modesty. I like what you guys lable 7's & 8's but have ****ed 9's and 10's. I've shown my proof of game on here years ago not doing that again.
peace
~supreme
