Why I hate dating full-time SMs

Desdinova

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A little while back, I decided to get myself a back-up in case my 21 year old flakes on me. I generally expect women under 23 to flake but for the last month and a half, she's been pretty spectacular and hasn't flaked once.

I also have a 28 year old FB who is a full-time Single Mother. I normally wouldn't bother keeping a woman like this, but she's a fantastic lay. Her biggest downside is she only has Saturday night off. I don't like ditching a Saturday night out just to get laid, so it isn't happening all that often.

Anyway, back to my back-up chick. I did some sarging on POF and messaged a 24 year old. She responded twice with really snotty messages, so I politely told her that since she's not much of a conversationalist, I'd look elsewhere. She opened right up after that and I built some good rapport with her.

And here we are again... another full time SM with a child under one year old. Regardless, I hate burning bridges. I'd rather leave her while her IL is high, so I decided that I should meet her regardless. I told her that Mondays and Tuesdays are my best days, but I may be able to make arrangements for another day.

She tells me she's available on Wednesday. That is my worst fvcking day. It's my kid's first day back from his mom's place, and he's usually a mess from the craziness of his mom's place. Wednesday is his day to re-adjust to being with me.

I have this unspoken rule that I don't leave him with a babysitter for more than one evening per week. I need to utilize that one night next week for Saturday evening to date the 21 year old whom I have more investment in.

Wednesday is a no go for me. As a full-time SM, she's at the disadvantage here. She needs to show me that she has some value and flexibility. She's on mat leave and currently has tons of time at her disposal. A Monday or Tuesday night shouldn't be a problem for her to arrange. Not only that, as time goes on the 21 year old is proving to be more valuable.

I'm getting to the point where I should just cut full-time SMs out of my life completely. They're extremely low-value women in the dating world and are really not much use outside of being a FB.
 

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Dear Des,
"They're extremely low-value women in the dating world and are really not much use outside of being a FB."....Soo....They make ideal plates!
 

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Just make sure you "keep it covered". I just as soon live in cheap foreign country and hire professionals if I have no interest in a relationship with a woman.

BTW, by "full time", do you mean that the woman is a full time housewife? If so, where does the income come from, etc.?
 

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MatureDJ said:
BTW, by "full time", do you mean that the woman is a full time housewife? If so, where does the income come from, etc.?
"Full time" as in having her kids full time. I'm cool with dating a woman who's ex takes the kids away for a few days, but the ones who never get a break aren't worth the effort. She can't sleep over, scream in the bedroom, go out on dates on short notice, etc. I'd have more fun with a childless fatty than a hot full-time single mother.
 

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Desdinova said:
I'd have more fun with a childless fatty than a hot full-time single mother.
Sorry, I can't have fun with a fatty. :down: Are you into the BBW scene? :eek:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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MatureDJ said:
Sorry, I can't have fun with a fatty. :down: Are you into the BBW scene? :eek:
No, it's a comparison. A childless fatty will have the time and desire to fvck. A hot full-time single mother is almost never available for anything, thus making the fatty higher value.
 

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I tried dating a hot 23 y.o SM a while back. She has a sickly small child, and was rarely available for anything. Unintentional c0cktease. Not fun.
 

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I can't get down with SM because of the baggage and I keep feeling like they are just waiting for a cuckolding situation....plz take care of my baby....takes all the blood flow away from my penis...

At least you are getting some responses Des, and more in your court, I know you were frustrated that you weren't getting what you wanted...maybe you can find same level of hotness minus the baby...

Also maybe these girls are attracted to you because you're older, more established...the exact type to help take care of them and their child...
 

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Buddha_Mind said:
Also maybe these girls are attracted to you because you're older, more established...the exact type to help take care of them and their child...
I'm really starting to question this theory. I don't think women with children actively have the mindset of looking for a replacement for their offspring's daddy. From what I've seen, they're just attracted to the same things in a man that a childless woman is attracted to.

I have a first date with a SM tomorrow evening who I met on POF. Here's how my initial contact with her went:

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Me: I seem to get the vibe from your profile that you're having a difficult time with things. But then again, I thought the world was flat for 12 years of my life :)

Her: Umm ok...

Me: Your profile reads like a grocery list, like you didn't put any heart into it. It's that, or you're forcing yourself out into the dating world. But I could be wrong yet again. You might be just as happy as me :D

Her: So what?

Me: Since you don't seem to be much for conversation, I shall bid you farewell and wish you the best of luck. Dating can be difficult as a single parent.

Her: Lol. I was just wanting to know what you were getting at. Yeah I haven't dated anyone since I left my ex 7 months ago. Its kind of strange.

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She was very stand-offish when I initially contacted her. When I threatened to ditch her, she started opening up. If she was actively looking for a man to replace her baby's dad, she would have been responsive to ANY man who showed her attention.

My Fvckbuddy is another prime example. She's a SM of two and has no desire to live with a man. She didn't even live with the guy she fathered two children with. She's incredibly receptive to me and is anxiously awaiting the next time I put my d1ck inside her.
 
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@Desdinova

If a woman is stupid...pushing a tiny human out of her vajayjay is not likely to maker her smart.

Otherwise every girl at Harvard would be knocked up 9 months before finals

The SMs I know pick up the same kind of guys non mothers do, I don't think that changes until the woman's looks start to fade, at which point it becomes 'all about the kid'...coincidently :)
 

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Desdinova said:
A little while back, I decided to get myself a back-up in case my 21 year old flakes on me. I generally expect women under 23 to flake but for the last month and a half, she's been pretty spectacular and hasn't flaked once.

I also have a 28 year old FB who is a full-time Single Mother. I normally wouldn't bother keeping a woman like this, but she's a fantastic lay. Her biggest downside is she only has Saturday night off. I don't like ditching a Saturday night out just to get laid, so it isn't happening all that often.

Anyway, back to my back-up chick. I did some sarging on POF and messaged a 24 year old. She responded twice with really snotty messages, so I politely told her that since she's not much of a conversationalist, I'd look elsewhere. She opened right up after that and I built some good rapport with her.

And here we are again... another full time SM with a child under one year old. Regardless, I hate burning bridges. I'd rather leave her while her IL is high, so I decided that I should meet her regardless. I told her that Mondays and Tuesdays are my best days, but I may be able to make arrangements for another day.

She tells me she's available on Wednesday. That is my worst fvcking day. It's my kid's first day back from his mom's place, and he's usually a mess from the craziness of his mom's place. Wednesday is his day to re-adjust to being with me.

I have this unspoken rule that I don't leave him with a babysitter for more than one evening per week. I need to utilize that one night next week for Saturday evening to date the 21 year old whom I have more investment in.

Wednesday is a no go for me. As a full-time SM, she's at the disadvantage here. She needs to show me that she has some value and flexibility. She's on mat leave and currently has tons of time at her disposal. A Monday or Tuesday night shouldn't be a problem for her to arrange. Not only that, as time goes on the 21 year old is proving to be more valuable.

I'm getting to the point where I should just cut full-time SMs out of my life completely. They're extremely low-value women in the dating world and are really not much use outside of being a FB.

Been there, done that. Will never date another single mother as long as I can help it. Hookups, sure. Actual relationships with? Not a chance.
 

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I've become "that guy" that the single moms talk about... the guy that as soon as they mention having a kid... mysteriously vanishes.

Somewhere in the back of my mind, there resides a small voice that yells out: ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!

So, I can sympathize, I hate dating any mothers, be it part-time or full-time.
 

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Kailex said:
I've become "that guy" that the single moms talk about... the guy that as soon as they mention having a kid... mysteriously vanishes.

Somewhere in the back of my mind, there resides a small voice that yells out: ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!

So, I can sympathize, I hate dating any mothers, be it part-time or full-time.
I see what you did there. xD lol
 
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