Why good looking White women in big cities are very tough to land even for White men.

[Canterbury Storytell]

This isn't a race whining thread, this is just a thread about how one demographic of women are hands down the hardest to land. Now I am not saying all White women are hard to land, just ones in this particular demographic. I won't even bring up anything about minorities struggling because I am tired of those discussions myself.

Mods, give this discussion a shot please.

Arguments, debates, and everything that happens is normal on online forums, let this discussion live.


Can we please begin now that I have begged the mods not to lock this thread and give the discussion a chance?

ALRIGHT.

Me and my friend Dave (tall White guy) have both been in Atlanta for the past few weeks. Now if anyone knows anything about Atlanta, it is that there are a lot of Black women here and a lot of Anglo (notice I said Anglo, not Italian or Eastern European) women here.

Now ideally, Dave should do well with the Southern Belles of Atlanta but we have noticed that over the years, one category of women has become the hardest to land without a shadow of a doubt. Even for White men!

Big City White American women who are slightly attractive, especially if the city is "racially diverse".

I brought this up on another thread where I suggested a reason for this but slowly it became clear to me.

As witnessed by the many posts online, media, TV, and magazines, attractive White women are hands down the most sought after women in the US, more so than other races. Sure you might have a different preference (I love Latinas more) but that doesn't ****ing matter because it isn't the truth. Some guys will violently deny it in their heads but attractive White women are pedestalized and sought after.

So how does a racially diverse big city change this?

A big city or racially diverse area makes a decent looking White girls sense of entitlement exponentially greater. American society (teachers, strangers, etc.) has a way of treating White females that look attractive like queens compared to women of other races.

As a result, a White girl who is born or raised in a place like NYC constantly sees how she is much better than people of other races and how high her value is.

If she looks good, then it gets even worse, because now White men end up falling victim to her entitlement. She doesn't want Dave next door anymore, she wants a Channing Tatum because she knows she can have one.

Take two White girls

1. Samantha from Idaho. Samantha is a 7/10 from Idaho where almost everyone was White. She grew up in an area where she was pretty much like everyone else. Samantha doesn't have as much experience with minorities and as a result she is more curious or intrigued when she sees a girl or guy of another race. On top of that, there aren't many Channing Tatums in Idaho so when she sees even a decent looking guy with game, she is amazed and wants to be with him.

2. Alice from NYC. Alice is a 7/10 from NYC where there is a lot of diversity. Daily she gets to see how she has it much better than people of other races and groups in her city. On top of that, due to her being above average looking, she gets approached a lot. Guys in NYC have more game and are of higher quality than guys in other areas, as a result, Alice ends up having way too many options.


This isn't theory or some made up myth. A lot of this has come from my 27 years of life on earth. I have noticed how both me (mixed race) and my friends (White guys) have cleaned up in places like Nebraska, Idaho, North Dakota, and Minnesota with girls who were good looking and White. On the other hand, if we wanted girls of near that quality in a place like NYC, Miami, or Atlanta, we would have to make 5 times as many approaches and still not have success.


What do you guys think?

 

[skinnyguy]

But black men are chopping them down left and right. Black men don't give a fvck about them, just sex, which is why a white woman's panties drop when they see black men.

 

[Canterbury Storytell]

But black men are chopping them down left and right. Black men don't give a fvck about them, just sex, which is why a white woman's panties drop when they see black men.

Not here in Atlanta bro, and believe me a Black guy just got banned for whining about White women not wanting him. I have been to big cities and gamed with Black men, it is no advantage at all, you just watch too much porn.

Now of course, there will be White women who have a thing for Black men but that is with any race.

Not to mention on Roosh's forum there are over 10 threads from Black men complaining about White women not wanting them.

 

[foreverAFC]

this indian race troll guys is lame, always the same exact threads over and over

 

[skinnyguy]

All I know, is I'm buying a ticket to North Dakota ASAP.

 

[Canterbury Storytell]

All I know, is I'm buying a ticket to North Dakota ASAP.

Do et, especially if you are Black.

What the **** is with the talk about Indians? I am not Indian and I didn't say anything about Indians you ****ing imbeciles. Oh because I talked about race mattering I some guy who has spammed the internet with the same thing? Go to hell, no wonder PUA forums have such a bad reputation these days.

Here I am giving legitimate advice and some dumb**** calls me a race troll, can you ****ing believe it? I will probably get banned too because of it but **** it all of you can burn in hell, next time you sit alone beating your **** to some cheap internet porn don't come asking for help on anything.

I think its racism now. Some frustrated guys on here do not want to see men who aren't White hook up with White women but since they can't be vocal about it they

1. try to get any race thread deleted
2. call anyone that gives race advice a race troll
3. call anyone that says race matters a race troll

phucking imbeciles

 

[BeDJ]

I'm not a mod, but - Anyone who gets red karma should automatically be banned. Period.

 

[Canterbury Storytell]

ya **** this,

good looking loser was right about this dump

**** all of you

the black guy who got banned was right too

so were all the other forums

this place went from offering me good advice years back to this ****hole, have fun in your dying poverty forum I am out of here

btw, im half korean and half white, go kill yourselves

 

[backseatjuan]

It's all about money, same dude on Toyota Corolla will get an earth loving ug, and on Bentley Continental all the top notch models. Having a top notch body and game changes the odds a bit.

 

[BeDJ]

With your username, it's no wonder why you are a loser. You lack the ability to engage a female. Good looking loser is a paid prop. He gives virgins a reason to believe. His 'cold approaches' are bogus in comparison to guys that actually do it. I don't mean to be an ass at all, but maybe you should take down GLL's shrine and nude posters from your wall.

To add, are you saying half korean and white is the master race? I've known ethiopeans that have a better mindset than you. Don't hate, just masturbate.

 

[Canterbury Storytell]

1. GLL gets laid more than you ever will your entire life

2. I didn't say that, you dumb phaggots were saying I am Indian and I am not, I am some mixed race guy giving advice not only on race but a certain category of women

3. GLL is legit and has proof that he gets laid, you do not

4. Most of you don't know **** about women

5. Most of the good posters from this forum (pook) stepped down a long time ago

6. Forum is left with **** posters

7. Nazi mods will shut the thread down

8. You phaggots don't ever get laid

9. Go to hell and quit insulting legit names like GLL who are living the life you will never get you live you lonely sons of *****es

 

[BeDJ]

1. GLL gets laid more than you ever will your entire life

2. I didn't say that, you dumb phaggots were saying I am Indian and I am not, I am some mixed race guy giving advice not only on race but a certain category of women

3. GLL is legit and has proof that he gets laid, you do not

4. Most of you don't know **** about women

5. Most of the good posters from this forum (pook) stepped down a long time ago

6. Forum is left with **** posters

7. Nazi mods will shut the thread down

8. You phaggots don't ever get laid

9. Go to hell and quit insulting legit names like GLL who are living the life you will never get you live you lonely sons of *****es

You know I was baiting you to get banned right?

 

[PlayHer Man]

Its true that if you show attractive white women you don't really give a sh!t about them.. they will often f*ck you. White women are the easiest women to f*ck and the hardest to get a relationship with.

If you only care about f*cking them, it won't be too difficult since "relationship game" requires much more honestly than "DTF game".

When you don't give a sh!t about "forming a relationship" with a particular woman.. there is no limit to what you can say to seduce her. You know she won't be around long enough to get to know you anyway. :rock:

As long as men continue to pedestalize certain women, they will continue to struggle with those women. Women sense the pedestal and they find it repulsive (from a p*ssy wetting perspective). Deep down women want to be inferior to men they are romantically involved with. When you pedestalize them.. you make them superior.. thus making yourself UNATTRACTIVE.

These b!tches are still human at the end of the day with limited time. They will only look good for so long. At some point they'll realize they can never get Channing Tatum.

 

[Solomon]

This thread will be locked

But it's trolls like these which have made the site worse
Instead of posting this Keyboard jockying faggotry and hitting the field to try this out

you cry about white wimmenz

OP Is really mad he can't get white wimmenz

 

[Jaylan]

Solo, your style game is on point. I can see why you do well out in the field. Im finally getting a new wardrobe myself thanks to a new job. Itll be my first office job and Im stocking up on nice business casual and lounge wear.

PS - Damn bro I miss those college apartment and house parties. People dont really do those anymore after I graduated.

 

[Aristippus]

Part of it could be that your belief about women in big cities is creating a self-fulfilling prophecy because beliefs act like commands from your brain and nervous system. I'm definitely not saying that environment can't be an influencing factor and that women can't be influenced by an atmosphere where she at least appears to have more choices.

What I'm saying is that if a woman is attracted to you, all of the other stuff is irrelevant. All you have to do is not engage in behaviors that will kill the feelings she already has. The thing is, if you already have a defeatist attitude, it will affect your behavior on some level. That alone could kill the interest that a woman initially had.

Another thing is if your timing is a little off. Timing is probably one of the most important things. I'll give you a hint though. Timing is 100% dictated by feelings. This is how you know your timing is right. By how she's feeling. That's why it's a good idea to get phone numbers when the conversation is going well or after you just finished making out with a woman. It's about 100 times easier and you'll rarely get a bad number.

You can even give yours out as a way to test her interest level. As far as moving forward goes, once again, a lot of men screw up by trying to physically advance too much, too quickly and at the wrong time. So, to give you an example, which scenario do you think will be more likely to lead to a woman kissing you? Going in for a kiss after you both held hands for 15 minutes and you give her a few kisses in a row on her hand, or just going in for a kiss out of the blue?

See the difference? In the first scenario, she's already warmed up to you nicely, she's shown a measure of romantic interest by holding hands, you move forward by giving her a few kisses on the hand, one after the other, she acts like she's enjoying it, so a kiss on the lips isn't a far stretch. You take this kind of approach and you'll never have to deal with outright, blatant rejection, or very rarely. In the same scenario and different outcome, if you scooted close to her and gently touched her hand during your conversation and she leaned back or away in response, you read the behavior and know she probably is either not interested or you moved forward too soon.

You keep reading her behaviors and let those behaviors gauge her level of interest. If she leans away from you a lot, and the conversation isn't going too great and she acts distant, you're seeing signals she's not interested and going for the kiss would end in the predictable result of her turning you down.
I suggest instead of taking a scattered, "let's go for every attractive woman we see" approach, which can consume a lot of energy and yields less results, you find the attractive women that are interesting to you and show high interest, while weeding out the ones with low interest.

I guarantee that if you and your friend go out, on any given night to a club that has, say 20-50 women there, you could find one woman for each of you every night you go out, if you choose to, in any city. You wouldn't have to say anything fancy. You could have very normal conversations and simply get her to do most of the talking. You could also have parts of the conversation that are interesting, but it would just be a naturally flowing conversation. The conversation would serve only two purposes. To enjoy the conversation for the sake of the conversation and to keep you in her proximity.

That's it. It keeps you there long enough so she can move in on you and you can reciprocate and you can both move forward together. The conversation by itself will never lead to sex or to kissing or to holding hands or anything else physical. That's all done non-verbally. Stop chasing women and just go out and meet them and notice their behaviors that are cues for you to physically move forward and notice the behaviors where they distance themselves and react accordingly. There are behaviors that show interest and those that show lack of interest.

Since you only want women who are interested in you and you don't want to waste your time on women who aren't interested, you're weeding those out and you're saving yourself a lot of time and energy. THAT needs to be your only focus. Not whether or not women of a certain demographic and location are harder to get. Most of the difficulty comes from men simply not observing a woman's reactions and also from men's false beliefs that they have to chase chase chase chase! Let her chase you too. It should be more of a mutual "looking for" each other, the way you and your friends look for each other. Not a one-sided chase. Try it and I think you'll notice a difference.