Why even try? Why not just enjoy the date as you please?

[Tariqa]

I read allot of the rules and tips and laws to DJ bible and I read allot of conflicting information.

*** You can't create interest it's either there or its not****

With that being said, why even try all of the tricks and trades that DJ tells you to do when you don't even want to do them? It's about not catering to a woman but enjoying the date as you please? Yet we still have to "follow certain rules"?

It seems to me, when you find the right women who is already interested, you won't have to do tricks to keep her interested, being that you cannot create interest anyway.


Women want men with money, looks, status etc. Why not just become that guy instead of trying to play the game?

And if you dont get laid in the meantime, just use that extra energy to get more attractive and make more money? It sounds like common sense to me.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Dude you are making sense, so expect to receive backlash from a lot of brainwashed posters. I think money doesn't trump attitude and status though.

 

[Aspiringalpha87]

Dude you are making sense, so expect to receive backlash from a lot of brainwashed posters. I think money doesn't trump attitude and status though.

This is completely unrelated but I saw your name and just wanted to say I'm a huge DQ8 and overall Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior fan

 

[Vivacity]

It seems to me, when you find the right women who is already interested, you won't have to do tricks to keep her interested, being that you cannot create interest anyway.

This ^^^. None of the DJ rules work, if she is not interested.

Women want men with money, looks, status etc. Why not just become that guy instead of trying to play the game?

First and foremost rule, always, keep improving yourself. Keep approaching girls. Keep marching from girl to another girl until you find the one who is interested. This is the only game I know, if you call it a game.

I have no other game. I suck at game. I have no interest in any other game.

 

[Tariqa]

Dude you are making sense, so expect to receive backlash from a lot of brainwashed posters. I think money doesn't trump attitude and status though.

Bro I agree. But there's no one on this site that can say they haven't had thousands of extra dollars and didn't see a boost in their attitude, confidence, and status. Women only want blank and blank, minds well just get blank and blank to me. Just makes more sense.

 

[Tariqa]

This ^^^. None of the DJ rules work, if she is not interested.



First and foremost rule, always, keep improving yourself. Keep approaching girls. Keep marching from girl to another girl until you find the one who is interested. This is the only game I know, if you call it a game.

Its a numbers game I agree. So I'll still talk to as many women as possible. But if the ones who are interested are going to be interested no matter how many rules I memorize, it just seems to me that I can pick and choose which rules I choose to follow and which ones I don't. Hell I'll go so far as to say ....**** ALL THE RULES. Billionaires don't follow rules so fucc it I'm just going to memorize how to make a billion dollars then rather how to raise a low interest level. Money is all they are really interested in so fucc it, let's just give them money

 

[AlexLefty1]

Status, or perceived status from the girl, trumps money. So are you saying that without money, looks, or high status you can't lay a 9 or 10? If your are then you're completely wrong. They certainly help, but nothing is 100%.

Also, you CAN create interest.

Also, also, you're thinking about this too much. Pretty much everything you said can be correct. But game is just a big paradox. So it's better to just GO OUT then waste time over-analyzing and complaining about the inconsistencies of an ever-changing and inherently entropic system like social dynamics.

 

[Tariqa]

Status, or perceived status from the girl, trumps money. So are you saying that without money, looks, or high status you can't lay a 9 or 10? If your are then you're completely wrong. They certainly help, but nothing is 100%.

Also, you CAN create interest.

Also, also, you're thinking about this too much. Pretty much everything you said can be correct. But game is just a big paradox. So it's better to just GO OUT then waste time over-analyzing and complaining about the inconsistencies of an ever-changing and inherently entropic system like social dynamics.

Oh no my friend I've had plenty of 9s and 10s in my life but the amount of 10's I had vs the amount of 10s millionaires have is astronomically different is what I'm saying. It helps a WHOLE lot more. You can get a 10, but without money or status or looks, its nearly infinitely harder. Like I said it's a numbers game so you get enough girls numbers and eventually you'll score a 10 even if you're dead broke.

How do you create interest? I was of the understanding that you can't and even if you can, how much work does that take?? Sounds like creating something from nothing to me and that's an impossibility.

And actually you're wrong. This thread is me basically saying I'm done thinking about the paradox. Im just reaffirming my revelation. This about as anti complaint as it gets and more of a celebration.

 

[RangerMIke]

Status, or perceived status from the girl, trumps money. So are you saying that without money, looks, or high status you can't lay a 9 or 10? If your are then you're completely wrong. They certainly help, but nothing is 100%.

The younger the women that more important status or perceived status is important. The older she gets the more she focuses on your material wealth and ACTUAL status. Most younger men do not have ACTUAL wealth and status.. only potential and this is what YOUNG women are attracted to. If you are over 40 and you are trying to sell 'potential' you will have a hard time attracting women. I agree there are shades of grey... way to many variables to say anything with 100% certain. But generally this is true.

Also, you CAN create interest.

Yes you can... but you have to be willing to work on yourself and be the best possible man you can be. Workout, work on your career, build a great life for yourself... make yourself happy. And when you men a women that is interested... just act like a man and you can create interest.

Also, also, you're thinking about this too much. Pretty much everything you said can be correct. But game is just a big paradox. So it's better to just GO OUT then waste time over-analyzing and complaining about the inconsistencies of an ever-changing and inherently entropic system like social dynamics.

Yep don't overthink this stuff. Do a self evaluation..be honest with yourself... figure out what you want to change... have the discipline and patience to improve. Then go live your life. Find woment hat are interested in you and date them... doing things you like to do.

I believe the biggest mistake that men make reading posts on this forum is that they lock onto one women, and try to figure out how to make something happen with her... that is when people start talking about tricks... what they can do... etc. This is a waste of time... it is so much easier when you treat all women the same and just let things happen with women who like you.

 

[Tariqa]

. So it's better to just GO OUT then waste time over-analyzing and complaining about the inconsistencies of an ever-changing and inherently entropic system like social dynamics.

That's another thing that I was saying. Why go out playing a game that's not in your favor? I rather just go out and make more money instead of wasting time gaming. I'll get much better women in the long run then settling fire average sues gaming. I'm repurposing my energy.

 

[Tariqa]

Yes you can... but you have to be willing to work on yourself and be the best possible man you can be. Workout, work on your career, build a great life for yourself... make yourself happy. And when you men a women that is interested... just act like a man and you can create interest.

Yep don't overthink this stuff. Do a self evaluation..be honest with yourself... figure out what you want to change... have the discipline and patience to improve. Then go live your life. Find woment hat are interested in you and date them... doing things you like to do.

I believe the biggest mistake that men make reading posts on this forum is that they lock onto one women, and try to figure out how to make something happen with her... that is when people start talking about tricks... what they can do... etc. This is a waste of time... it is so much easier when you treat all women the same and just let things happen with women who like you.

Exactly. Who I am today I will not get any 10. But there are plenty of 6's and 7's that adore me. I can either do two things.

A) Settle for a 6 or

B) Quit trying to get a 10, take a hiatus from dating, make a million dollars ( or die trying), and then come back years later for that one girl ive been eyeing all these years..

I'm going with option b because I never quit, and I never settle.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

women are short term thinkers that act on emotional reactions. I could have 1 million dollars in my bank account but how would any random girl know unless I drove a Ferrari or word my bank statements. Both are dumb as hell ideas btw lol. Notice how the type of guys getting all the women have a certain carefree attitude. The rich guys women get wet over are celebrities, athletes, and flashy rich guys. In addition, they will get wet over drug dealers, servers, bums, and etc. Notice engineers, doctors, businessmen, lawyers, and etc aren't really competitive in the dating game despite their status. A woman could just as easily cheat on an engineer, med student, or rich guy for some welfare bum because his swag was right at the heat of the moment.

 

[skinnyguy]

Money attracts gold diggers. I think the real answer is to lift so much you look like the Rock.

 

[Casillas]

Most people confuse and think that if you follow every single rule you will have sex with the woman, but sometimes or most times you have to be yourself and act according to the circumstances. In the other hand the DJ Bible in my opinion is a HUGE help for those who have no idea of what to say or do to attract a woman, or in my case to avoid committing the same mistakes again and again. Just do whatever it works for you.

 

[Tariqa]

women are short term thinkers that act on emotional reactions. I could have 1 million dollars in my bank account but how would any random girl know unless I drove a Ferrari or word my bank statements. Both are dumb as hell ideas btw lol. Notice how the type of guys getting all the women have a certain carefree attitude. The rich guys women get wet over are celebrities, athletes, and flashy rich guys. In addition, they will get wet over drug dealers, servers, bums, and etc. Notice engineers, doctors, businessmen, lawyers, and etc aren't really competitive in the dating game despite their status. A woman could just as easily cheat on an engineer, med student, or rich guy for some welfare bum because his swag was right at the heat of the moment.

Bro we know that. What I'm saying is having more money increases who you have to chose from. And also decreases the amount of fuccs you have you give.



In all honesty the best option here logically would be C) Do whatever the hell you want to do and maybe you will hit the jackpot.


I just think if all women are gold diggers, and we know all women want are material things, why not even the odds against the average joes?

Lawyers get more vagina then someone making 30,000 a year. The more money you have, the more options you have. That's all I was saying.

If you are a 6, I say just quit dating altogether and work on becoming a 10. And even if you do get a 10 and she cheats, you have enough money to easily replace her, because there are thousands more woman lined up just waiting to take her spot. You can just keep replacing until you die. It's harder to do that when your status is low and your finances are slim.

 

[Tariqa]

Money attracts gold diggers. I think the real answer is to lift so much you look like the Rock.

All women are gold diggers bro. Try to get a 10 on minimum wage. Now try to get the same girl on millionaire wage. You tell me which one is easier.

I'm just acknowledging that all women just want material things so instead of mastering DJ rules to get a chick who still doesn't want you because you don't have enough to overcompensate for what you lack, just spend that energy into obtaining said compensation. I think instead of reading DJ bible, it's just easier to read a "How to get rich"bible.

If you look like the rock, that's still some type of compensation. Women only care about your external they don't care that you have a good heart. They want something they can see whether that's money or looks or status.

Even if you look like the Rock, you'll just be attracting women that like your body but don't care anything about you. Its all still superficial. Money however is easier to obtain so I'll say it's money which is the number one thing women look for in a man, not looks.


Either way you're still attracting a digger. Gold digger status digger, body digger. They just dig until the treasure is found and then you still get tossed. Mind as well get rich, the money will last longer than rock hard abs.


Either way you're still screwed.

 

[MrWiggles]

another one of these... Just because you learn game or know game doesnt mean youll be getting 10's left and right. You cant expect to get a 10 if you are a 2 on a daily basis. What you can expect is to get better quality girls than you currently are getting. Might get a 3, 4 or 5. Game does work if played correctly but it still isnt the magic bullet that so many guys think it is.

 

[oOh Nasty]

Game vs. SMV. Both are pretty important IMO and contribute to your overall package.

 

[Vivacity]

Exactly. Who I am today I will not get any 10. But there are plenty of 6's and 7's that adore me. I can either do two things.

A) Settle for a 6 or

B) Quit trying to get a 10, take a hiatus from dating, make a million dollars ( or die trying), and then come back years later for that one girl ive been eyeing all these years..

I'm going with option b because I never quit, and I never settle.

Only making a lot of money, e.g., a million dollars, will not help.

Being a well-rounded person increases your scope of attracting women. Physical attractiveness, intelligence, knowledge, earning ability, communication skills, social skills all play a part in attracting women. If you bring life into her everyday life, then you are a catch.

Let's say you have a million dollars, but you are fat, boring as fukc, and can't talk and connect with her well, then you have little chance. Go hell with your money.

 

[Tariqa]

Most people confuse and think that if you follow every single rule you will have sex with the woman, but sometimes or most times you have to be yourself and act according to the circumstances. In the other hand the DJ Bible in my opinion is a HUGE help for those who have no idea of what to say or do to attract a woman, or in my case to avoid committing the same mistakes again and again. Just do whatever it works for you.

Bro all they need to do is get rich. Those same guys can make the same mistakes over and over but if they had money, those same women will forgive those mistakes.

Yes the DJ bible can help and make things easier, but at the end of the day if she is interested, you wouldn't even need to remember anything because she is working for you.

I just say say whatever you want to these women, break whatever rule you want. If she ain't with it, she was never interested in the first place. That's high quality filtering and I seriously don't have time to be gaming anyone. I'm comfortable with dating 5's and 6's until I'm high enough quality for a 10. Don't have time for rules.