why do people put so much worth into women?

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I mean really... why ?

I admit, it used to be a problem I had, growing up around my dad, who's whole life purposed after he got divorced from my mom (and probably while he was with my mom, just too young to remember) was to **** as many women as possible and brag about it to his friends.

But when you sit down and really think about things... why?


I mean, all mean have instictive needs... we need sex. We were brought here to have sex and reproduce.

But there are also other things in life that can occupy ones time that can be just as if not more rewarding with women, without all of the stress or problems it can cause.

I mean, does it really matter if a girl you think is "hot" thinks you are not cute enough?

Does it really matter if a girl you want to screw thinks of you as a friend?

Why waste your time trying to "convert" this "friend" into a potential partner, when you can be doing alot more important things?

There are times now, not too often, but this week is one of them for me, that I just cut my phone off for weeks at a time because I don't want to be bothered.

The funny thing is, that life is setup for us to have our cake AND eat it to.

It has been said many times before on this board, but I guess it has fallen upon deaf ears.

Get hobbies. Make goals. Hit the gym. not to impress women, but so that you can become the person you truely see yourself as. When you dream about going out to the mall and having women fight over you, or going to the club and taking home the best looking women there, i am sure you are not fat and out of shape... That's what made me really hit the gym hard, not women, but because I saw myself in my mind as being cut, and I wasnt'... wasn't bad looking or anything, but I wasn't who I saw myself as, and that's the most important thing.

Learn new stuff. Learn history. Learn to play a musical insterment. Have a project you are working on.

The average guy, from what I see on a daily basis, drags himself out of bed, goes to work, heads straight home from work, watches TV, usually music videos, MTV or sports, usually talks to a girl sometime durning the day, rather it is someone he is dating or a girl he likes, that' snot the point, and then goes to bed.

But this same guy on the weekend and tries to pump himself up as a ladies man, gets clean, or so he thinks, goes to the club, gets drunk, goes home and feels miserable in the morning.

This guy wonders why women don't like him, don't approach him, why it's so hard for him to approach women.

The answer is easy. You put toooo much value into something that doesn't deserve it.

There about 3 Billion or so women on earth... There isn't a going otu of business sale on them... more of them are popping up every day. People are still ****ing... don't beileve me? go to the hospital and go to the delivery ward.

On the same flip, there are about 3 Billion MEN on earth. Women aren't going to like you because you want them to. It's the same reason why people don't save up their money or get rich to buy a Toyota Camary, there is nothing special about it and it can be had at any time.


Take a break from women. Throw yourself in your work. Do Something. Take a break from this site.


Anytime you have any trouble approaching a women, it is because you have insecurities about yourself, and the only reason they are insecurities is because you need the validation from a women because your life has no validiation for you. In other words, the average guy that I was tlaking about earlier, in his eyes atleast has nothing else in life to look forward to but "getting a girlfriend" so to him a rejection is harder then it is to someone who has alot going on in his life. this is something that a "bootcamp" will fix... yes it will make the process of talking to women easier, but it shouldn't be a process.. YOu see a pretty women, you introduce yourself, you ask for her number. It's really that simple.


Make no mistake, women aren't BAD, in fact some of the best times I have had are with women... but I have had great times with friends, I enjoy doing physical activities, I love going to Colllege Football games, I like reading up on history, etc.


I have recently started to expand my social circle from other than my two best friends. One thing I noticed is how much guys tend to talk about how many women they get, how often they have sex, etc... I never noticed this before because me and my two best friends didn't have to talk about it... If we wanted some we we would go get some. If you ask me, all of these guys that do stuff like that are insecure and feel like they have to validate themselves to their friends. My best friends don't talk to me about girls they meet, they introduce them to me when they bring them over my place to chill. Even then it's not a big deal, because none of us really care about women to the extent that it's all we have to talk about.


IN conclusion, stop putting so much thought into how to get women. it's an easy answer... YOu just go and get them. Start putting some of that saved up entergy into expanding your interests and finding things that make you happy.
 

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Originally posted by backbreaker


I admit, it used to be a problem I had, growing up around my dad, who's whole life purpose was to **** as many women as possible and brag about it to his friends.


stop putting so much thought into how to get women. it's easy
YOu just go and get them. Start putting some of that saved up entergy into expanding your interests and finding things that make you happy.
god bless :wave:
 

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easier sed than done mate

when u have nothing, u need a woman

rite now i have nothng, absolutely nothing in my life expcet for a girl. without her im nothing, without her i feel like nothing, i am nothing

and when youre like that and you lose her or cannot get her, your life just gets even worse

but i understand where your coming from, women to you may not be the means to your happiness, but for some peopel out there, im bettin the majority of the peopel cruisin this site, who get little women, they are everything. getting one makes them happy, so we will continue to chase women, and put alot of vlaue into getting them

it is hard to let go

"I mean, does it really matter if a girl you think is "hot" thinks you are not cute enough?"

YES

"Does it really matter if a girl you want to screw thinks of you as a friend?

HELL YES

Why waste your time trying to "convert" this "friend" into a potential partner, when you can be doing alot more important things?

beacuse having a woman is the only thing that will make some of us happy

maybe once you've had a few, or enough in your mind, then they beocme less important, you depend less on them for your happiness, but for the rest of us plebs, having a woman who loves you and who wants you as much as you want them, and who cares for you deeply, is all that will make them happy

i may be just speaking for myself

great post though,
 

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A vagina feels better than your own hand, usually.
 

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Because sex is one of our major psychological needs, on the same level as food.
 

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rite now i have nothng, absolutely nothing in my life expcet for a girl. without her im nothing, without her i feel like nothing, i am nothing
I'm sorry to say this, buddy, but you need more help than a woman can give you. Think it through. If you lose this one woman, is your life over? That's a shame because odds are you will lose her at some point. So then what do you do? Latch onto some other woman and suck the life out of her, too?

No other person can give your life meaning. Only you can do that.
 

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Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Because sex is one of our major psychological needs, on the same level as food.
read his post fool, or at least my condensed version.
 

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Originally posted by blong1068
A vagina feels better than your own hand, usually.
same to you.
 

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Very good post Backbreaker and a very DJ perspective in my opinion.

The irony is that once you start placing less value on women and get a life that has purpose and is enjoyable to live, that's when the women start flocking round.

Developing this perspective expanded my confidence considerably. I mean, I enjoy my life without women and have goals to focus on, then why would I fear rejection, or tolerate sh1t from a woman, or worry what she thinks? Because whatever happens, I still have my interests and my goals and life goes on.
 

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Originally posted by RaWBLooD
same to you.
My post wasn't meant as an attack. I meant "your" to be all men's collective hands. Of course I masturbate, so there is no need for this redirection of attack on your part, as there was no initial attack on my part. Thank you for your time.
 

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You say jsut go out and get them that;s true to an extent but u also have to analyze and learn. ANd while having purpose in your life is of utmost important, it is ok to take an "educational detour" in the words of David D for a yr or 2 to get ur **** together with women. And also remember that some ppl purpose;s in life are to game beautiful women. So don;t make blanket statements. I agree with the jist but some things not so much. You have to put thought into it alot of thought. Mystery made it a huge part of his life. It would be better to say that u have to maintain perspective and try to aquire the skill.
 

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stop putting so much thought into how to get women. it's easy
YOu just go and get them. Start putting some of that saved up entergy into expanding your interests and finding things that make you happy.





---because we need women for sex, procreation, support, love, care for our children.....

if you dont believe this..then im sorry...they are very important the most important thing in our lifes..unless you are a faggyt.

again this is 1 women to fill these needs..not a bunch. you are right on the validation part..thats sad...but you need a woman. just choose wisely
 

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Originally posted by blong1068
My post wasn't meant as an attack. I meant "your" to be all men's collective hands. Of course I masturbate, so there is no need for this redirection of attack on your part, as there was no initial attack on my part. Thank you for your time.
read his post u ignorant fool:crackup:
 

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okay

well I know I might be an RAFC, but I still have some thoughts on this issue. There seems to be two sides to what we now have an argument. Both the camps have valid points, now I think the trick is in finding the right balance between the two opposing sides.

What I'm talking about is Yin and Yang, Balance...

I think that the proper balance would be a man, who could follow backbreakers advice on making a life that he could enjoy and be proud of, while at the same time having a understanding of the importance that women have in our lives.

I think that every RAFC or DJ should first make a life that he can be happy with, find hobbies or projects, get goals, aspirations etc... That should be his first goal to the journey of becoming a DJ. To find a life that he can wake up to every morning and be happy with, to have a smile on his face because he knows that he lives a great life, and that this current day will be another page in the book of his life that he has total happines and control over. The book he is writting is great because he is doing great things and they dont include women. Yet this man also realizes that women are the essential part to being whole, but getting a women must be prioritized. Women are the last step to completing a man, first a man must have a life that he is happy with and then at the end finds a women to complete it.

What happens when when men place women in the wrong order, or dont prioritize them properly (I DID BIG TIME). Then women become the mans only source of happines, when in actuality the source is supposed to be him. Women are only there to apmlify his life and not be the base of his exsistence and happiness. Confident men usually have successful and happy lives, which helps them be successful with women in the end.

Those of you who spend so much time here learning (lol this post was shocking for me..I spend alot of time here) about women, what is you motivation? Your motivation to stay here and spend hours, is that you feel that women will give you that sense of feeling and will fill up that void that you may have inside you. (thats why I did it) You feel that women will make you happy. AND they will.... but only in the correct order of things. You must be happy with your life and you must enjoy your life before you can begin to have women in your life and fully enjoy THEM. Even you players, even though it might not be women that make you happy, it can be the success that you feel that you get from scoring in the clubs or from a CA. Its just another way to prove yourselves which makes you happy.

Maybe the reason why we chase women so much and covet them becasue they offer and fullfill our genetic desires along with stroking our ego's. The provide us with sex which is so crucial and one of our elementary drives in life. Yet I feel that nature has also built in a safety net for our species. That sex will be only possible or accessible for men who have their lives in shape first. Cavemen who where bum's usually didnt get any action while alpha's who hunted for meat or made paintings or charted out territories got laid more.

So like most men like myself, who are out trying to seek women, when our lives arent in order, will def have trouble dealing with women, no matter how hard we may try or study, unless some part of you is happy with the life you lead without them. Now seducing women is an art....yes of course it is. But have you seen the look of a confident man, its because to him his life is great. Even when your body and you mind and your hormones are screaming inside you ..... I NEED WOMEN... you must use your rational mind and tell yourself that you must be happy with your life first no matter how badly you MAY think you need women.

NowRemember that my view about all this is about balance..so that means that just because your life isnt as happy or successful or diversified as you would like it to be right now. Means that you stop trying, stop learning the game or stop whatever that you may be doing to, go out and meet new women. IT HAS TO BE DONE. An effort to meet women and learn the game must be made.

But realize that your individual happines that comes from you and only you is higher and more noble of an effort than happiness than what a woman will provide or give you, even though you may think otherwise(hormones, w/e. It makes the man more self reliant in a world when women come and go like the breath in you lungs.

Obtaining self happines and at the same time learning to get women is the perfect balance, but making sure that obtaining self happines remains the bigger priority, even though getting a gf might seem to make you happy is key I think. Self happiness will stay with you forever or untill you stop trying..but not from ur gf..not ur wife.

I know this advice is hard to follow, because right now, nothing would make me feel better than holding a hb in my hands and kissing her and then she telling me she loves me. It would make me the happiest man. BUt look where the happiness is comming from. Its not comming from me. So you have to make that difficult choice and focus on your own happiness and sustaing it by your own efforts.

Thats all I have to say
 

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you say too much.
 

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I have most that I want except women. I have tons of unique hobbies sadly for better or worse one of them is reading tons of self-help books because I just can't get women. It's been months and months since I last got laid and I just can't find women that I like around here. I totally missed out on college experience because I went to a technical school. And my social circle consists of 5 people one of which is a girl who has no friends. It's really sad. I try not to think about it but when I do I just get really really depressed...

There's a quote that I like referencing "Work out your own salvation with fears and trembling"
 

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Originally posted by Life-Trainee
I have most that I want except women. I have tons of unique hobbies sadly for better or worse one of them is reading tons of self-help books because I just can't get women. It's been months and months since I last got laid and I just can't find women that I like around here. I totally missed out on college experience because I went to a technical school. And my social circle consists of 5 people one of which is a girl who has no friends. It's really sad. I try not to think about it but when I do I just get really really depressed...

There's a quote that I like referencing "Work out your own salvation with fears and trembling"
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seriously, don't post again until you change your damn attitude.

that's just plain pathetic. You ought to be a god damn shammed of yourself.

No one in life wants you to succed... want us to throw a pity party for you?

Everything you want, could possibly want ot learn to improve yourself is on this board, in the graps of your hands, and you waste your damn time *****ing about how pathetic your life is?
 
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