Why are women so good at rationalization?

[El Payaso]

My girlfriend didn't want to kiss me last night because she was upset about something. I didn't really care so I brushed it off. This morning, as she was leaving for work, she says "Can I kiss you before leaving or are you going to do what you did the other time I tried?"

(A few weeks ago, she did something to upset me and I withdrew my attention and didn't want to kiss her.) That's why she said that.

So I told her "You mean the same thing you did last night?"

She said "I had a reason."

Of course, I laughed in her face and rightly so. I simply told her to go because I wasn't willing to participate in her mental gymnastics this morning. She's been calling me all morning but I'm not picking up.

My question is do women actually believe the garbage they spew or are they just actually trolling?

 

[badboyjmm]

It's a emotion response but it a woman's mind is completely logical. I'm pretty sure that your girlfriend did not explain her ''reason" right ?

So I think women believe their ''logic'' behind their emotional feedback to a situation or someone.

Her calling you was pretty much to try to explain what happen.

 

[logicallefty]

You are doing the right thing going NC just like you did. The key is DO IT and DO IT IMMEDIATELY, at the very first sign of nonsense.. Looks like you did just that.

Lately I have been experimenting with the power of NC in other areas of my life besides with women I date. It is a very powerful tool that can set people back on track like no other. Sometimes I almost feel guilty having it. For example, I used it on my mother over the weekend. Her and I NEVER have any disagreements but Saturday night she said some things that both p|ssed me off and hurt me a little, coming from her. So yesterday I avoided her calls and texts all day. By last night she was calling my friends and the people closest to me wondering if I was OK. She mentioned to one of them that she feels guilty about what she said to me Saturday and wants to apologize. I will call her today and let her do that.

 

[Onion]

Women > First emotions then find logic to support emotions. Men > Logic then feel emotions about decisions based on logic.

Learned this from this site and many others and how true it is. Never since then I've tried to rationalise things using logic with any woman. Rather I inject as much emotions through her veins as possible. Trust me, she will find a way to rationalise this that she's in 'love' with you.

 

[VikingKing]

Because society validates their emotions

 

[The Duke]

I always laugh when women want to complain about their problem but when you step in and try and help them make rational sense and come up with a solution they get mad and accuse you of not listening and not caring! lol, ok so ya just want to biatch and keep biatching.

 

[Trump]

I don't know bro, to me it sounds like you are being petty. You have to remember they run on emotions, not logic. You have to play her mood, not her mind.

I would have said something like "if you are going to kiss me it has be a really really good kiss."

As long as she is not costing you money, it's all good.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Because it is essential for their survival. This way they can easily 'fall in love' in fat or old guy if he has assets she needs like money or status or fall out of love.Without rationalization she couldnt emotionally accepted she is ****ed by fat or old guy.Without rationalization she couldnt monkey branched to next guy as she would be emotionally attached to him.

I know dude who was dumped by his gf because she broke glass vase she got from him as gift and it was a 'sign'.No joking.Women are master in bullshyt, never take them too seriously.

 

[KingBeef]

My girlfriend didn't want to kiss me last night because she was upset about something. I didn't really care so I brushed it off. This morning, as she was leaving for work, she says "Can I kiss you before leaving or are you going to do what you did the other time I tried?"

(A few weeks ago, she did something to upset me and I withdrew my attention and didn't want to kiss her.) That's why she said that.

So I told her "You mean the same thing you did last night?"

She said "I had a reason."

Of course, I laughed in her face and rightly so. I simply told her to go because I wasn't willing to participate in her mental gymnastics this morning. She's been calling me all morning but I'm not picking up.

My question is do women actually believe the garbage they spew or are they just actually trolling?

Let's look at the original name of this thread..."Why are women so good at rationalization?" ANSWER: THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE ILLOGICAL CREATURES THAT ACT ON EMOTIONS FIRST AND THEN TRY TO RUN LOGIC AT YOU LATER....

You did the right thing going NC and I agree with all the replies on this thread...it's power, this society now lets them, sh1t test, testing your frame, etc. Maintain your frame and don't back down. Like I mentioned in an earlier thread, DON'T PUT UP WITH HER CRAP.... Either "put her in her place" or get rid of her. You're a fellow DJ and time from time we need input from our fellow brethren to remind us of WHO MEN REALLY ARE IN NATURE. The power is all yours...

 

[BlueAlpha1]

They get a free pass. Society has convinced them that they are the victims in any and every case, and this "girl power" nonsense has convinced them that they really could "have it all."

 

[G_Govan]

I'd be careful with the tit-for-tat stuff. It may sound counter-intuitive, but that validates them as well. She knows it got to you, which was the goal. They really are this petty.

Notice how she played it when you did it to her? She made YOU seem petty and hurt.

The first time she did it I would've laughed it off and forced a playful kiss on her cheek or something, pretty much letting her know that her being upset is of no consequence to my currently good mood.

I had an argument with a ex and I knew I pissed her off because I didn't let it escalate to the point of letting it truly upset me, I kind of reversed it to make her look crazy.

Next time I saw her she was still pissed but I talked to her like nothing ever happened and she eventually got over it when she realized I wasn't going to be affected.

Let them stew in their anger and be happy. Works all the time for me.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I'd be careful with the tit-for-tat stuff. It may sound counter-intuitive, but that validates them as well. She knows it got to you, which was the goal. They really are this petty.

Notice how she played it when you did it to her? She made YOU seem petty and hurt.

The first time she did it I would've laughed it off and forced a playful kiss on her cheek or something, pretty much letting her know that her being upset is of no consequence to my currently good mood.

I had an argument with a ex and I knew I pissed her off because I didn't let it escalate to the point of letting it truly upset me, I kind of reversed it to make her look crazy.

Next time I saw her she was still pissed but I talked to her like nothing ever happened and she eventually got over it when she realized I wasn't going to be affected.

Let them stew in their anger and be happy. Works all the time for me.

This.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to G_Govan again.

Some of this $hit is just women being women, small and petty stuff where all you can do is smile and give them the metaphorical pat on the head: "aaaahh, isn't that cute." Some of it CAN actually be funny. Chicks being chicks. Did she really do anything that was bad? It may be a $hit test in one form or another, but to be the strong, leader of the group, you need to be just that, strong, and not let the petty stuff effect you.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You are doing the right thing going NC just like you did. The key is DO IT and DO IT IMMEDIATELY, at the very first sign of nonsense.. Looks like you did just that.

Lately I have been experimenting with the power of NC in other areas of my life besides with women I date. It is a very powerful tool that can set people back on track like no other. Sometimes I almost feel guilty having it. For example, I used it on my mother over the weekend. Her and I NEVER have any disagreements but Saturday night she said some things that both p|ssed me off and hurt me a little, coming from her. So yesterday I avoided her calls and texts all day. By last night she was calling my friends and the people closest to me wondering if I was OK. She mentioned to one of them that she feels guilty about what she said to me Saturday and wants to apologize. I will call her today and let her do that.

That's true. I got into a huge dispute with my dad not too long ago. I had to give in after 2 weeks because it was affecting my school, but basically, I would not talk to him or acknowledge him at all, but would talk to everyone else in my family, and made myself happy and unaffected by him. He looked like he was going to cry. I think its because I temporarily cut the father-son bond which destroyed him inside.

 

[Epimanes]

Women have what's called the "rationalization hamster" .. Its because of their global thinking mindset (when men are compartmental thinkers). Often women are anxious too.. So that feeds their hamster. Thankfully my wife has learned that more often than not it is just her hamster playing tricks on her brain.. I usually tell her so "honey.. Your hamster is spinning again, your over thinking this" and she gets a little bytchy and later appologizes now.(my wife recognizes her hamster now for what it is especially after reading marriedmansexlife primer and map book with me).. All ya gotta do is be outcome independant.. Possibly agree and amplify and you will pass her shyt test or fitness test and her anxiety will drop and her hamster may get shot in the process.. Be cool.. Shrug it off.. Don't feed the hamster.

 

[old married dude]

Women > First emotions then find logic to support emotions. Men > Logic then feel emotions about decisions based on logic.

Learned this from this site and many others and how true it is. Never since then I've tried to rationalise things using logic with any woman. Rather I inject as much emotions through her veins as possible. Trust me, she will find a way to rationalise this that she's in 'love' with you.

So true! This is why I always had such a tough time with women especially in my younger years. It's even worse if you're an ENTJ personality type like myself who essentially operates off of pure logic. Once I understood what you just said and got more in tune with my emotional side, things got better.

Side note: If you ever come across a female with an NTJ personality, proceed with extreme caution because these personality types go against their true nature. I've only ever known two, an ENTJ and an INTJ. The ENTJ was probably the most narcissistic woman I've ever met, and the INTJ seemed like a straight up sociopath at times.

 

[RangerMIke]

Women > First emotions then find logic to support emotions. Men > Logic then feel emotions about decisions based on logic.

Learned this from this site and many others and how true it is. Never since then I've tried to rationalise things using logic with any woman. Rather I inject as much emotions through her veins as possible. Trust me, she will find a way to rationalise this that she's in 'love' with you.

Yep.... They make emotional decisions. Then justify them. They are good a rationalization since this is how they freaking live.

But you know what... this is a good thing. Knowing how women think and make decisions makes it easy to seduce them. Communicate with them emotionally. Push their emotional buttons and you can control them.

 

[dasein]

They really are like children sometimes, OP made me laugh. She was plainly feeling guilty about the night before and trying a preemptive blameshift to gauge whether you were annoyed by it.

This is a great time to fart if you have one built up, or grab her by the cooch, something juvenile without getting verbal. This way you send the message that you see right through and are not getting in the sandbox with her, are dismissive of her childish ploy. The point is to act, not talk, you can spare the gross display if you like, and act in other ways, but it has worked 100s of times for me over the years in keeping them in line.

Will never forget the time one was going on and on in my ear in bed one morning lecturing at me about total BS, and she knew it, I could hear it in her voice, all s-test blather. I just happened to have a "master blaster" basso profundo morning rip built up and literally shook the walls and blew the sheets up for about 5-10 seconds. She started howling laughing and gave me a BJ.

As far as rationalization? Men's tools for facing the world are called tools. Women's tools for facing the world are called men. This is really all you have to keep in mind about the female power of rationalization.