Who got da power? *HIGH FIVE*

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Here's an excerpt article talking about Style's new book, from the same magazine that made out Tyler Durden to be a bit of an asshat. Bear in mind this was written by a woman.

The whole article can be found here.

This week's hot topic is the imminent publication of The Game, a book described as the ultimate seduction manual for men. It's author, the self-styled pulling expert Neil Strauss, claims that no female is off limits, providing you stick to his tips. And, hilariously, people are taking him seriously. They actually believe that memorising some half-baked mind games can turn a Jimmy Five Bellies into a Colin Farrell. What is even more ludicrous is that men are the ones doing the seducing in the first place. You want to grab Strauss by the designer lapels and shout: "Wakey, wakey!" Men don't do the choosing: we do. If you wanted to write a book, why didn't you call it "Listen, they have all the power, but if it makes you feel any better, here are some lousy tips on chat-up lines and grooming products"? The fact that men like Strauss are still convinced they are in control only goes to show how good women are at the job of getting our men - and preserving their illusions at the same time...

...What the Strausses of this world are incapable of grasping is that ordinary girls, with not so much as a black basque to their name, are all playing some version of the pick-up game, and playing to win. There's the Kate Moss school: "I just like to party, though I will end up with a rock star at the end of the evening." There's the Emily Mortimer school: "I am dippy and flaky, and don't have a plan, though I will end up with the hottest young actor at the end of the evening." Then there's the Kimberly Fortier school: "I'm a velvert-hairband-wearing career person with networking on my mind, though..." You pick a woman who looks as if she's waiting helpessly to be plucked from obscurity, and I'll show you a man-eater with a mission. Good luck to anyone trying out the Strauss plan - we know your game, but ours is locked in our DNA, and, frankly, you don't stand a chance.

Maybe people who have read the book would like to comment on the attacks on its content.

The article was funny to read, but got me thinking...who really has the power, the (proper) DJ or the women?
 

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Women do the selecting, and men do the choosing. In other words, she first selects you and then you choose to be with her or not. Women have all the power in the relationship until sex. She's right.
 

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what kind of feminist lezbo wrote that article??

if that attitude doesn't prove to you how dangerous feminism is nothing will. If you let feminism succeed most women will end up with that mentality.

*starts to shiver*
 

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Hahahahaha! :D

What is amazing here, with this article, is the fact that somebody took the time to write it.

I mean, I wonder who rejected her? :)

Peace.
 

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Originally posted by Create Reality

I mean, I wonder who rejected her? :)

Peace.
Speak for yourself.

Thing is, she's right. In the game of seduction, invented by the greats of female (to name a few, Bathsheba, Cleopetra [the greatest of all seducers in history to date, including male seducers], Hsi Shi), women do truly have the power. This is their game, not ours. Their court, their territory.

We, through mediums like Mystery's Method and sosuave, we through these mediums are simply adapting. In fact, Pook has spoke on this in the Be a man! article he wrote, that the strongest man adapt.

They know our need for sex, they know we need this sex to be unleashed or our tension build. It's built in their DNA as the woman writer has said, it's something they were born with, something they know instinctively. Tough men can easily turn into *****, at the brink of the girl saying no to sex while girls can say "who wants some of these?" and you'll have 10 men lining up.

Truly, for a male to master seduction is an achievement. An achievement greater than the building of Rome I would say. This is why we look up to the likes of Giacomo Casonova and Don Juan. It takes a lifetime and I am willing to say, even guys like Pook and Anti-Dump have not truly mastered it.

This game is THE game, most are content with sex and the small chase, however, very few, less than 0.01% are willing to become a seducer, a true seducer in the extent that Anti-Dump put so much emphasis on. It's not just extreme masculinity (by likes of Pook) or extreme technical practice (by likes of Ross Jeffries), it's how the game is laid out and how one plays it. In the end, those who spend the most time into this wins.

One can employ a technique for a few minutes... and poof, it's gone. And extreme masculinity isn't maintained 24/7, most of us can't take that kind of pressure, even naturally we need to sleep. And then the ability to maintain this game sight for long, playing one girl after another, unable to maintain his persistance for just one girl.

All I can say is, the female writer is right, the girls play this game 24/7, one of my god-sister is still in JHS (6th grade) and spends over 6 hours putting make-ups on and making sure she looks good. She wants to be the alpha female (alpha types depends on their look by the way, including alpha male). And 99.9% of the female spend most of their time putting make-up on and trying to look good. It's something they will do naturally, to look and feel good to attract and seduce.

My little god-sister even told me, "[-hehe] Sife, you'll never beat us, I know you play this game, I know how hard you men try, competing for us, and you know what? While few of you play the same tactics, we know there's plenty PLENTY of other men out there that don't know how to play this game. You're screwed either way, because your chance of seducing is already low to begin with, no matter how good you get."
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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Originally posted by 007~JC
Women are severly delusional.

-007
As much as men are.

Didn't you recently change your name because you realized your arrogance was for naught?



Don't look at this as an attack, just trying to ring the bell.
 

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Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
what kind of feminist lezbo wrote that article??

if that attitude doesn't prove to you how dangerous feminism is nothing will. If you let feminism succeed most women will end up with that mentality.

*starts to shiver*
You're wise to realize that feminism is dangerous when let loose by the soccer moms' and the feminist-for-lifers'.

I was wondering myself, "women are some of the harshest creature out there for sure".

Power is indeed an aphrodisiac for the conscious.
 

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This lady can write a billion articles, but that won't turn her into a master seductress like Cleopatra.

The ones that they try harder to grasp just as easily slip through their fingers.
 

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Originally posted by Create Reality
This lady can write a billion articles, but that won't turn her into a master seductress like Cleopatra.

The ones that they try harder to grasp just as easily slip through their fingers.
You're right, this goes the same for men.

I don't understand the last statement, can you rephrase it?
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Insightful response Sifer. Women are natural seducers, men are not. Women are to be desired, and men are to desire. A woman can naturally allure the man she wants. A man cannot naturally allure the woman he wants. She has to want him naturally.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Insightful response Sifer. Women are natural seducers, men are not. Women are to be desired, and men are to desire. A woman can naturally allure the man she wants. A man cannot naturally allure the woman he wants. She has to want him naturally.
ahah that article made me feel sick :rolleyes: The fact is, men need women, and women need men (although im sure she could argue that women can give birth alone). I don't agree totally about women know who they do and don't like on first impressions. The reason alot of these pua's get laid so much is simply because they apeal to women with the use of techniques.

The fact is that being a pua, and being a "man" are the same damn thing, the goal is to seduce the women into ****ing you. There is no difference at all, yer you can say NO MEN GET WOMEN CHASING THEM, yer but how, a man just didn't get all these qualitys instantly, he worked for them, therefor changing and molding himself. That is what this site is about....
 

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Women desire a man as well.

Women are "Natural" seducers the same as men are "Naturally" seduced? I guess you're saying that all men are just emotional idiots who just fall like a card house for the seducer. No, that's not true. Not all men lack the ability to control their natural dynamics such as the poor misguided AFC.

As for that part you didn't understand in my post, Sifer... What I'm saying their is, sometimes an idea inside our heads can become so emotionally loaded it becomes counter-productive. It's possible to focus so hard on an aspect of our lives that we become dependent on it for emotional sublimation.
 

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The fact is her argument is pointless, it isn't going to change things. PUA's will keep ****ing chicks, and they will continue to love it, nothing can change that, who cares who has the "upper" hand in the game if both sexes are getting sex, it doesn't matter.... :rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by jiza101
The fact is her argument is pointless, it isn't going to change things. PUA's will keep ****ing chicks, and they will continue to love it, nothing can change that, who cares who has the "upper" hand in the game if both sexes are getting sex, it doesn't matter.... :rolleyes:
^ My sentiments exactly.

As long as I bust a nut... I don't care who has the upper hand. :)

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Originally posted by sifer


My little god-sister even told me, "[-hehe] Sife, you'll never beat us, I know you play this game, I know how hard you men try, competing for us, and you know what? While few of you play the same tactics, we know there's plenty PLENTY of other men out there that don't know how to play this game. You're screwed either way, because your chance of seducing is already low to begin with, no matter how good you get."
What are you a moron? listening to little girls talk about the game.

Listen up, your theory is total feminist propaganda brainwashing Bullcrikey, heres why.

Those "plenty" of other men who "dont have a clue" that your little god sister was talking about DONT MAKE HER WET.
It's that simple, Obviously its clear b!tches are motivated by emotion and feelings when it comes to attraction and its no secret now when chicks are involved that Attraction isnt a choice .

Now having established the fact that chicks dont get to choose who makes her cvnt wet makes it unquestionably clear that a man who has game who CHOOSES which chicks to approach is the one who has the upper hand. The only power she has is to say yes or no to him and like I just pointed out she doesnt even really have that power in as far as the emotions he creates in her.

MEN are the ones who can flick logic switches and can make non emotional decisions and judgements, NOT women. Make no mistakes, hence we are the ONLY ones who have the upperhand. It's a little secret a feminized society doesnt want us to know.
 

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I'm liking the ignorance of the media towards this book, actually. I'd rather it be our niche, rather than have everyone know what we do!

If you're in the UK, and fancy parting with £1.80 (I think), pick up Company magazine. A guy actually has phone conversations with Strauss, and tries it out, and he fails miserably - because he does everything wrong and then takes bad advice from women. I tried to link to the article online, but you can't read it there, unfortunately. But it is a very interesting "what not to do"!

Whats happening, I think, is that women are refusing to admit that they can be manipulated.

And were the better for it:D.
 

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They have it in teir genes

Women are the masters of seduction. Look at it realistically: how many men can resist a decent-looking chick who has learned to elevate her "hotness" by 2-3 points using make-up and clothes and has refined her personality. The 5's or 6's become 8's-9's, and at least temporarily, they have us in their hands. They know how to talk, they know how to move, they know how to touch. They never do the systematic, deep analysis we do of social interactions and stil they know how to do it.

It's rare that I meet a chick who doesn't know how to utilize her intelligence in the conversation. And look at us - no matter how smart some of us are, it takes a lot of effort to convey this intelligence socially. There are many men who manage, but nothing even remotely compared to the uniform social mastery women have.

There are tens of thousands of men who have come here and read all the good, solid tips they need. I guess only about 5 percent of them have managed to put that USEFUL knowledge into practice. So many perfectly decent, smart guys, can't develop even a small portion of their potential in spite of their wishes.

And look at women: they don't read any serious advice on seduction, except maybe the odd generic (and practically useless) article they see on cosmo. And it's as if all of them, especially the more social ones, have developed their social potential to the maximum, be it posture, behavior, attitude, convo, looks, even the elusive kino that's so hard for us.

Let's face it, guys, we can never beat them at their game. All we can do is beat the competition.
 

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Originally posted by sifer
Truly, for a male to master seduction is an achievement. An achievement greater than the building of Rome I would say.
Well said. And for them it's just natural.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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