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mrRuckus

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Let's say you have a 3RM of 250 lbs on bench that you just hit for the first time.

Then you did a deload for a week or two.

You come back and booo you lost some strength and get 250x2 instead of 250x3. No big deal. Just try again next week and the strength should return.

250x2 again. Darnit.

Now at this point would the next week you try to get 250x3 again or say to hell with it and just start going 252.5 x 2 and at least be raising something or maybe go back down to 245x3 and work your way back up to your previous 250x3?

It's not a big deal but I lift in 30 min and i'm thinking about what to do :)
 

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Probably wouldn't be bad to go heavy again for 3 reps. It's happened to me too, but just use a spotter the whole set. For me, I got discouraged and figured I'd see how heavy I could go for a set of 10 or 5.
 

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I'd go for the 250x3 again. If I didn't make it I'd drop the weight down 5lbs the next week and work my way back up.

What did you do in the end?
 

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mrRuckus said:
Let's say you have a 3RM of 250 lbs on bench that you just hit for the first time.

Then you did a deload for a week or two.

You come back and booo you lost some strength and get 250x2 instead of 250x3.
Well that's your first mistake.

mrRuckus said:
Now at this point would the next week you try to get 250x3 again or say to hell with it and just start going 252.5 x 2 and at least be raising something or maybe go back down to 245x3 and work your way back up to your previous 250x3?

It's not a big deal but I lift in 30 min and i'm thinking about what to do :)
The best idea is to try 252.5 kg with a good spotter, and get out as many reps as you can, then a couple more with an assist. Your CNS then has to adapt to a heavier weight, with the fibres being worn down due to assisted reps, then with good nutrition the following week you will be stronger. Sticking to the same weight when plateaud is a bad idea, your CNS adapts to that given weight and doesn't feel anything more.

MM
 

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Mad Manic said:
Well I'm a fvcking know-it-all douche bag ill equipped to read grammatically, which is a double whammy when coupled with the unfinished development of my frontal lobe.
I didn't ask for what to do differently as per the routine as I have a trainer who has lifted and trained others for more years than you have been alive.

I suppose the record squats and deadlifts I got after my deload I did "wrong" too. You don't even know what I did for the rest of chest on those days or even previous sets of bench. Christ i ask for a simple opinion and I get called basically a moron by some twit playing the hard ass.

Quagmire you've been doing this sh1t lately too with posts like "Explain." as if you're some holy guru above us all.

mR
 

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mrRuckus said:
Quagmire you've been doing this sh1t lately too with posts like "Explain." as if you're some holy guru above us all.

mR
I am perhaps a little short when people are spreading misinformation.

I do not claim to be the holy lifting messiah, far far from it. I quite routinely sing the praises of said trainer in your above post who knows far more than I do.

So before making a below the belt comment and being a ****head, get your facts straight.
 

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Hmm i have the same problem...Quag has pointed me an article on IA

http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14524

And he said he has seen strength gains from it. Might be that you need to work on something else more, or change up the rep scheme. That's what i would do...and what i am currently doing
 

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Iron Addict trains him.

Of course screw him and listen to me, for I am the holy guru :crackup:
 

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mrRuckus said:
I didn't ask for what to do differently as per the routine as I have a trainer who has lifted and trained others for more years than you have been alive.

I suppose the record squats and deadlifts I got after my deload I did "wrong" too. You don't even know what I did for the rest of chest on those days or even previous sets of bench. Christ i ask for a simple opinion and I get called basically a moron by some twit playing the hard ass.

Quagmire you've been doing this sh1t lately too with posts like "Explain." as if you're some holy guru above us all.

mR
Hang on, you make a thread asking us what we would do, I give my explanation and you get all crappy with me? Hellllooooo you asked us for our opinions no?

Secondly I do not care about how long someone has trained for or done a given exercise for, it really means nothing to me. If they are strong and/or have great technique and/or advice that worked great for me, that would make me respect them. But being old and in the gym for years alone doesn't warrant my respect.

Lastly, I have taken a lot of my advice from other trainers more experienced than myself and also from the powerlifters at Addlington who use the muscletalk.co.uk forum. In their opinion deloads are unecessary in the main, which from experience I agree with.

MM
 
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