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Hey guys,

I was hoping someone could give me some advice on a good whey protein. I am currently using Pure Protein: http://www.pureprotein.net/vf/labels/L050449-AE.pdf

This was a fairly cheap product, so I'm assuming it isn't the best. I chose this one because of the decent amount of protein, lower sugar, and not an insane amount of ingredients.

On days I work out, I have about 2 scoops (50g protein, 280 calories, 4g sugar total).

Is this a decent product? Are there any recommendations of different products that aren't too hard on the wallet?
 

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I personally prefer a higher quality isolate whey protein as I primarily use it for pre/post WO. The product you highlighted has 25 g of protein/37 g weight... so this is approx. 67% protein by weight. Not sure how much you pay for it. Most things are a lot cheaper in the US than up here, and I would expect whey to be the same.

A good isolate will give you 90% or greater protein by weight. They do tend to be more expensive. However, I don't mind dishing out a bit for cash for them. Costco has some pretty cheap whey isolates. Their stuff is around 40-45 bucks for 2 kg (4.4 lbs). Its around 90% protein by weight.

The product I use right now is Allmax's Isoflex. 27 g protein/30 g scoop. I get a pretty good deal on it, $60 for 5 lbs. Both me and my fiance use it. Great tasting stuff. Here's the label info:

http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/allmax_nutrition_isoflex_--_chocolate_mint,_5_lb.html
 

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$60 for 5 lbs!?

How I enjoy being raped @ GNC
Seriously... That is a pretty good deal.

However, I found the stuff I posted from Target. Although, I don't know if they carry it anymore. I think it was $20, but it's only 2 lbs. Thanks for the recommendations, Fuglydude.
 

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PDubb75 said:
Seriously... That is a pretty good deal.

However, I found the stuff I posted from Target. Although, I don't know if they carry it anymore. I think it was $20, but it's only 2 lbs. Thanks for the recommendations, Fuglydude.
I can't speak for Fuglydude's brand of whey protein, but generally $60 for 5 lbs is bad.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2763331

^ There you have ON Whey 5lbs for around $30-$35. Much cheaper since you're in Chicago and its from a reputable brand.

Occasionally 5lbs whey hits $25-$30 range... look for deals and don't get shafted.

Edit:
It has 24g Protein/29.4g

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/100-whey-gold-standard-p-201.html Click on picture for nutrition facts
 

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The Allmax website has the 5lb container on SALE for US$100

I did find it on another site for $65 plus shipping. I may need to go a little lower...
 

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PDubb75 said:
The Allmax website has the 5lb container on SALE for US$100

I did find it on another site for $65 plus shipping. I may need to go a little lower...
Lol if you buy whey at those prices you're gonna go broke :nono:
 

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ArcBound said:
Lol if you buy whey at those prices you're gonna go broke :nono:
Haha.. you're telling me! It seems that deal you posted for the ON isn't the most reliable. Otherwise, it is about $50, it seems. Still much better deal, but I will keep looking for deals.

I've used ON before, but that wasn't when I was actually lifting, so I didn't notice much of a benefit.
 

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Lol yeah of course its not going to do anything when not lifting but generally I think ON is good, and it seems that coupon has died :/.

Maybe we can make this thread for up to date relatively cheap supplements?

Twinlab
http://www.amazon.com/Twinlab-Prote...7DKC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1300828724&sr=8-3

$29 with shipping if you have amazon prime, otherwise $36 total for 5lbs.
Dymatize
I think this is the whey Colossus uses.
http://www.amazon.com/Dymatize-Nutr...ef=sr_1_6?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1300828892&sr=1-6
Basically $40 with shipping. If you have amazon prime though, you can subscribe and save to get it for $33.06 and cancel subscription after first shipment.

While not the cheapest its loads cheaper than $60+ for 5lbs..
 

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I'd personally say start off with ON whey, can't go wrong with that product. I currently use Isopure since it has zero carbs(For Cutting)

Now... Please don't go buy proteins like Muscle Milk, generic proteins(What you bought) and avoid SOY proteins... That's even worse. Just buy a simple high quality protein that doesn't have creatine in it...

For great deals go to bodybuilding . Com ... Don't ever go to GNC.
 

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StateOfMind said:
I'd personally say start off with ON whey, can't go wrong with that product. I currently use Isopure since it has zero carbs(For Cutting)

Now... Please don't go buy proteins like Muscle Milk, generic proteins(What you bought) and avoid SOY proteins... That's even worse. Just buy a simple high quality protein that doesn't have creatine in it...

For great deals go to bodybuilding . Com ... Don't ever go to GNC.
I actually use Cytogainer, from Cytosport the same company that makes muscle milk and its awesome. Of course I didn't mention it cause its a weight gainer and not really a protein powder.
 

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ArcBound said:
I can't speak for Fuglydude's brand of whey protein, but generally $60 for 5 lbs is bad.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2763331

^ There you have ON Whey 5lbs for around $30-$35. Much cheaper since you're in Chicago and its from a reputable brand.

Occasionally 5lbs whey hits $25-$30 range... look for deals and don't get shafted.

Edit:
It has 24g Protein/29.4g

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/100-whey-gold-standard-p-201.html Click on picture for nutrition facts
I actually have a buddy that owns a supplement place, so I get it through him. In addition my fiance is sponsored by him and she's also a promo/demo model for Allmax's distribution company in Alberta... so we get reasonable deals from them.

GNC and lots of other retail places will do you up the ass when it comes to mark ups. You gotta know where to go. The optimum nutrition stuff you guys were talking about is actually good stuff. I've used in the past, and dont' have any complaints. It continues to be a highly rated product pretty much everywhere.
 

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Muscle Milk has Creatine in it, most likely he would be taking that without knowing it has it.
And muscle milk has MSG, no thanks.
 

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StateOfMind said:
Muscle Milk has Creatine in it, most likely he would be taking that without knowing it has it.
And muscle milk has MSG, no thanks.
Can you explain to me why that's a problem? I would like hard facts, not opinions please.
 

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StateOfMind said:
MSG is a neurotoxin... Kills brains cells, Go to wiki and look it up.
Just went to wiki like you said found:

"Since glutamates are important neurotransmitters in the human brain, playing a key element in learning and memory, there is ongoing study by neurologists about possible side–effects of MSG in food but no conclusive studies saying there are any connections.[30]"

Hardly seems like a hard fact
 

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Just went to wiki like you said found:

"Since glutamates are important neurotransmitters in the human brain, playing a key element in learning and memory, there is ongoing study by neurologists about possible side–effects of MSG in food but no conclusive studies saying there are any connections.[30]"

Hardly seems like a hard fact
The poster that posted that glutamate is neurotoxin is a highschool kid who doesn't know what he's talking about. A neurotoxin is something that causes damage/death to nerve cells. Even water, in sufficient quantities, can be neurotoxic. Just look up water intoxication. A true neurotoxin like TTX (tetradotoxin from pufferfish) can kill you with extremely small doses. Meanwhile the allegedly neurotoxic glutamate is actually pretty common in our bodies and in nature.

Glutamate is nothing more than the conjugate base of glutamic acid (glu or E) a non-essential amino acid (AA) . Its one of the 20 or 21 (depending on who you ask) commonly occurring AA's. MSG is nothing more than the sodium salt of this amino acid.

Glutamate is generally accepted as being the most ubiquitous excitatory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system. It plays a lot of important roles in learning and stuff. Overall there's like 4 glutamate receptors (NMDA/AMPA and the K one) these are the ionotropic ones... this just means that they function as ligand-gated ion channels, or ion channels that get turned on/open when glutamate binds to them. I can't remember what the metabotropic E receptor is called... but you can just look it up.

Over-excitation of the NMDA receptor leads to a condition called excitotoxicity. In many ways excitotoxicity, and resultant intra-cellular changes are basically the molecular basis for death at the cellular level. This is essentially how we all die. Short of being vaporized, lack of oxygen to the brain is the most common cause for death. Cerebral hypoxia/ischemia sets about events that lead to excitotoxicity.

The NMDA receptor in itself is a crazy ass weird molecule with very complex kinetics w/ tons of weird ass ligands like PCP (angel dust) and Ketamine!

Anyways, MSG has some anecdotal evidence connecting to all sorts of badass diseases like asthma. It has actually been extensively tested, and shown statistically to cause no reproducible adverse reactions in people. Here's a study if you wanna check it out:

Freeman M. (October 2006). "Reconsidering the effects of monosodium glutamate: a literature review". J Am Acad Nurse Pract 18 (10): 482–6. doi:10.1111/j.1745-7599.2006.00160.x. PMID 16999713.

That being said, I'm not a huge fan of any processed food, including stuff that has MSG in it.

There's tons of posters on this site that have no academic background and no idea what they're talking about. Its good that you took the time to call him on it.
 

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Both false. You guys fail pathetically. It contains Maltodextrine and glutamate both MSG. Aka neurotoxins. I don't want to post links and background info, you guys look it up. STRONG fail is strong.
 

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Both false. You guys fail pathetically. It contains Maltodextrine and glutamate both MSG. Aka neurotoxins. I don't want to post links and background info, you guys look it up. STRONG fail is strong.
Gotta love 2-line posts that attempt to debunk responses that are well thought out and present meta-analysis reviews on the pertinent matter. SOM, you're simply saying we're failing pathetically without giving evidence for anything. And, how do you define "neurotoxin", because as I stated in my previous post virtually any substance as the potential to be neurotoxic if ingested in the appropriate dose/amount.

MSG = monosodium glutamate... maltodextrin = a polysaccharide w/o any concretely documented neurotoxic effects. Chemically, they're not very similar at all. They're definitely NOT the same chemical entity. I know you don't like chemistry, but you should probably get your facts in order before presenting an argument. You can't post literature links, data, etc. simply because none exists on maltodextrin being a neurotoxin.

I've heard all the anecdotal stuff about maltodextrin having neurotoxic effects, however, you won't find anything in reputable peer reviewed journals that suggest that maltodextrin has any such effects. I suspect that the notion of maltodextrin have neurotoxic effects may stem from the nature of processed foods and residual amounts of chemicals that inevitably get left behind during food processing. Although there is some ancedotal data present w/ MSG, none is present w/ maltodextrin... not pure maltodextrin anyways.

Aren't you the highschool "runner" kid who wants to be a personal trainer, but doesn't know how to spell "fascia" and doesn't like chemistry? I've debunked your ignorant posts in the past and will continue to do so:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=182820

Maybe go out and get an education before you start giving advice. The internet is full of crap information that misleads people. I'm not saying I'm always right, but as a healthcare professional w/ multiple university degrees I will give information to the best of my knowledge, and will back my posts up w/ solid science. Anything less is unethical.
 

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