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donjuan87

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When it comes to bulking, can you drink a lot of protein powder (more that a shake or two a day) to help put a lot of protein in your body (and be able to not be chomping on meat all day), or is there a limit on how much you can have a day? I was wondering, because protein is so important when it comes to bulking.
 

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When it comes to bulking, can you drink a lot of protein powder (more that a shake or two a day) to help put a lot of protein in your body (and be able to not be chomping on meat all day), or is there a limit on how much you can have a day? I was wondering, because protein is so important when it comes to bulking.
Yup, ya certainly can, and many of use would be fvcked without whey/protein powder because we'd find it hard work to get enough protein :) HOWEVER, if you're gonna drink a whey shake as a meal, you need to add some fat to slow the digestion down, because whey is a fast-absorping protein, and would otherwise be straight in and straight out, i.e. it might end up being deaminated and used for fuel.

So put a tablespoon of olive or sunflower oil in, i.e. 3 scoops whey protein, 1tbsp olive oil. You shouldn't taste oils much or at all ;) (I can't taste my sunflower oil at all..)

-shaun
 

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Shaun, stop recommending sunflower oil to everyone, it's not a good oil to either cook in or consume. It's full of omega6's which are already disproportionately a huge part of our fat intake.. (sunflower oil, vegetable oil, corn oil etc). Go with mono's (olive oil) or flax/fish oil or even coconut oil.
 

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If you want a slower absorbing protein than buy a protein that has casein in it.
 

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Shaun, stop recommending sunflower oil to everyone, it's not a good oil to either cook in or consume. It's full of omega6's which are already disproportionately a huge part of our fat intake.. (sunflower oil, vegetable oil, corn oil etc). Go with mono's (olive oil) or flax/fish oil or even coconut oil.
OK bud, I had assumed it was a reasonable oil because it's so popular and widely available (in the UK at least). With that I'm gonna switch to olive oil. Thanks for letting me know :)

-shaun
 

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Anything that's popular and widely available is only what's mass-produced by the food industry.. not necessarily what's good for you.

White bread is also widely available. ;)
 

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lol yeap good point ;) I think I've also seen you suggest it as an oil for adding fats to the diet before, but I guess something else is needed for the purpose of EFA intake. Haha, I'll get olive oil added to the mum's shopping list :up:

-shaun
 

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Well, put it this way, it IS an option, but there are better options.
 

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The problem with whey + casein is not just the speed of digestion, but the associated insulin spike which is probably brought about by their high BCAA content, which are amazingly insulinotropic while having no effect on blood glucose.

That's not to say that these two products are bad; I use whey everyday, but it's wise to try to prevent the insulin spike, (except pwo which is when you really want insulin).

Ways you could do this:

1. Take with some olive oil; slows gastric emptying + another reason, (which I've forgotten...but it was something to do with receptors...I'll find it later)

2. Take after a meal; the food acts as a buffer

3. Take with fiber; acts as a buffer again + does something else...(I've forgotten again :rolleyes: )

I know that ironaddict, (founder of ironaddicts.com and a long, long term whey user) has recently stopped using whey + started on egg white powder, and has some of his clients do the same, with resulting increases in energy. Whether this has to do with allergies to something in the whey, or reducing insulin spikes, who knows. But I know that when my whey runs out, I'll be testing out egg protein to see if it makes a difference, while still using whey pwo.

But yeah, don't want to scare anyone...the point of this post it basically to say; try not to take whey on its own on an empty stomach.
 
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