Where I stand.

CyranoDeBergerac

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There is currently a debate on sosuave about homosexuality and the inherent non-masculinity of it all. I don't care. Debates like this have been waged for ages and I don't see an end to it any time soon. You have a right to an opinion, I have a right to disagree. Let's not fight over something so utterly irrelevant to our purposes here.

But there are some (typically older) DJs on here who find it necessary not only to keep this debate going, but to actually write-off entire people because they hold disseminating views. An example of the following...

Originally posted by PlayerSupreme
Cyrano: Aren't you that dude who lives in vegas and is on the gay right platform. I seem to recall a debate a few months ago between you and PRL.

I think I concluded that your either bisexual or gay...or you tried it out on that side of the fence and in your mind you need to justify what you did so you jumped on the gay rights bandwagon.

Your entitled to your beliefs. Gay or otherwise. I am always amazed at any supposedly straight man who jumps on the defend gay rights thing. I guess you have your reasons.

Cyrano, don't bother responding...I put you on the ignore list. I didn't read your argument above...but it looked good. It's nice to see someone with a modicum of intelligence. I'm putting you on this list because our ideas on sexuality do not mesh and I consider anything you have to say tainted and not worthy of even reading.
Obviously, if any of you have read my opinions on 'the gay issue' you know I'm not upset by them or their existence. I have even advocated using them as excellent wingmen.

You know, typically I don't take it upon myself to correct such misperceptions or defend myself from such weak attacks because no one's perception of me will change my reality. I am my own man, as are all of you, and I shouldn't have to justify myself to any one. Ideally none of us would have to. This is one of the core beliefs which leads me not to care about homosexuality, provided my autonomy itself is not infringed.

Try as I might though, there is a flea in my ear telling me that this bears response as it is not a question, but an unfounded statement wrecklessly and arrogantly impugning my character. So I am inclined to break my own rule.

I am not gay. I have never had the inclination to be gay, and I personally find homoerotic material distasteful, to say nothing of the act itself. I have never engagued in homoerotic sex, and I deeply resent those who would levy those attacks against me. I have however participated in moments of silence for those who cannot present themselves as they are. This maxim holds true whether gay, straight, republican, democrat, or Ralph Nader.I also have several gay friends, some of which have been instrumental in my growth process.

I have been diagnosed as Bipolar and perodically have fought battles with severe depression. But to this effect all DJs have their highs and their lows. Well, at my lowest point as a man some years ago I was homeless. I was a wreck and I looked it. I had no hope for the future and no sense of my own value. My complete lack of self-sufficiency led me to drop out of college and to get evicted. I was literally self-destructing. I still maintained regular hygeine at the bathrooms on campus between periods, but other than what I had the forsight to put in my tote-bag, I had nothing.

I met a friend some two weeks before I became homeless. His name was Eli. Eli was the type of guy who you couldn't mistake for being straight, even if he didn't parade his homosexuality. Even though I took pains to maintain the appearance of civility, everyone new I was homeless so he eventually found out. Eli is an old soul, but more than that he is a strong character and demanded that I accept accomodations in his grandmother's house. He told me it was no use arguing because he had already told her I was coming and he wasn't about to let me disappoint an old lady. After a few hours I didn't have the pride or enough food left in my stomach to refuse. From there I was able to get back on my feet and I've never looked back.

He showed me kindness when no one else would and reminded me what self-respect was all about. I have not fallen so low again and when on occasion I do fall, I don't stay down for long. Since then I have surpassed him, but I have repayed his kindness to me by allowing him to stay with me to help him find his own way.

There is a common ideology throughout all civilized culture of predestination of friendship. The idea that god works in mysterious ways and some people are put in our way to enrich our lives and help us to achieve our goals.

I leave it to you my DJ brethren. Even if you do not agree with me, do you understand why I weather the tremendous storms that come with my stance? Or is it justified that I should be denounced as a homosexual, and completely discounted for honorably defending a friend?

-CyranoDeBergerac
 

Porky

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My cousin's gay, and one of the greatest guys I know.

This is the best post I've read on this site.
 

Kineti[C]harm

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Ye gay people are really cool, especially the guys. They are great to talk with and to have in a social setting. I can just imagine how good wingmen they are.
 

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You have my oppology! Thanks for the enlightening story. I can respect a man who defends a friend.

You have your views on the subject and I will always have mine. Now I understand why you were so adamant in your defense of homosexuals.


Sorry about your bipolar thingy. Nice piece of prose kid. Like I said along time ago, you right well. You should think about a carreer in PR or maybe Law.


Now defending a friend in one thing, but defending sexual acts that you yourself are saying are debase is another. Anyways thanks for the letting me know where your coming from and again accept my humble oppology for calling you gay.
 

CyranoDeBergerac

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The Bipolar thing isn't as big of a deal as it used to be actually. Its gotten to the point where, since I know the signs and attitudes accompanying depression, I can take action to circumvent the negative effects in all but the most severe instances.

As for Eli being gay, he may be the reason for my vehemence, but he is not the reason I believe this. I do not defend the acts themselves. I defend my friend Eli's right to be who he sees as the best version of himself. I would wish the same enlightenment upon everyone. Whether I'm inclined as he is I deem irrelevant because whether or not our tastes coincide Eli is still going to be Eli. My perception will never change his reality any more than his will change mine. For whatever he is, he is firstly my friend.

I guess the main thing I wanted you and those who cannot understand why a straight man could align himself to a gay cause is an example of why to keep in mind. I know I am not the only one who's life has been enriched by the presence of a human being who is among other things, gay.

I don't see any end to this debate and it would be fruitless for me to continue with it so outside of any further clarification of this post, this will be my last comment on it.

So far this debate has only proved a distraction and a wedge between our DJ brethren, and why? Why have we not only accepted, but persistently nurtured such a destructive and negative influence on this site? Why are we not devoting ourselves and our energies to the enrichment of our fellow brethren around the world, helping them to become the men they need to be? This is the decline of sosuave which everyone so laments yet still contributes to.

Please, DJ brethren, let us remove our energies from amidst the torrents and snares dividing us. Let us once again unite for the betterment and enlightenment of every man on this site, so that each one of us can stand as a model of manhood and a beacon of light too stunning to be ignored. Let us face the world and loudly proclaim,

" I reject the notion that I should apologize for and be ashamed of my masculinity!"

" I do not need the approval or the sanction of those who presume to judge me yet hold me in contempt. I am my own man."

and that most sacred banner of all...

"I am the prize!"

This is where our battle lies, not amongst each other.

-CyranoDeBergerac
 

Walldorf

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a good reminder that it is so important how something is said in order to tranfer the message...

great post cyrano
 
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