"Where are the jobs Mr. President?" 320,000+ new jobs created under President Obama

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http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27075584/u-s-added-more-than-300-000-jobs
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...umbers_give_obama_reason_to_smile_124871.html


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/us-job-growth-soars-tops-300k

U.S. job growth soars, tops 300k

Any Republicans asking “where are the jobs?” today should probably have their heads examined.

The new report from Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the U.S. economy added 321,000 jobs in November. The overall unemployment rate stayed at 5.8 and remains at its lowest point in over six years.

Once again, public-sector layoffs did not drag down the overall employment figures. Though jobs reports over the last few years have shown monthly government job losses, in November, the private sector added 314,000 while the public sector added 7,000. The latter may not sound like much, but after several years in which that total was negative, it’s at least somewhat heartening.

As for the revisions, all of the news was excellent: September’s totals were revised up from 256,000 to 271,000, while October’s figures were revised up, from 214,000 to 243,000. Combined, that’s an additional 44,000 jobs.

All told, this is one of the best jobs report Americans have seen in many years. There were some spikes in early 2010, but those were largely the result of temporary Census hiring, while this new data points to genuine, robust job growth. It remains very difficult for President Obama’s critics to explain these numbers: the hiring boom is underway after tax increases and full implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

All told, over the last 12 months, the U.S. economy has added over 2.73 million jobs overall and 2.66 million in the private sector. What’s more, November was the 50th consecutive month of positive job growth – the best stretch since 1939 – and the 56th consecutive month in which we’ve seen private-sector job growth – the longest on record.

At this point, with the calendar year nearly over, 2014 will easily be the best year for U.S. job creation since 1999.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/us-job-growth-soars-tops-300k

Above you’ll find the chart I run every month, showing monthly job losses since the start of the Great Recession. The image makes a distinction – red columns point to monthly job totals under the Bush administration, while blue columns point to job totals under the Obama administration.




Obama Smacks Republicans Right Between The Eyes With The Facts On His Record Job Growth


http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/05/obama-smacks-republicans-eyes-facts-record-job-growth.html

President Obama hit Republicans with the cold hard facts about his job creation record, which Republicans can only dream of matching.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus responded to the news of historic Obama job creation by saying, “Creating 300,000 jobs in one month shouldn’t be a new high; it should be the minimum we expect. Today’s jobs report shouldn’t be an aberration; it should be the norm. Sadly, it’s not.”

The president responded to the Republican criticism with a dose of reality.


The president said,

"Last month, America’s businesses created more than 300,000 jobs. This keeps a pace so far this year that we have not seen since the 1990s. So far this year, over the first 11 months of 2014, our economy has created 2.65 million jobs. That’s more than in any entire year since the 1990s. Our businesses have now created 10.9 million jobs over the past 57 months in a row. And that’s the longest streak of private sector job growth on record.

We also know that the pickup in the pace of job growth this year has been in industries with higher wages. And overall, wages are rising — a very welcome sign for millions of Americans. So we’ve got an opportunity to keep up this progress if Congress is willing to keep our government open, avoid self-inflicted wounds, and work together to invest in the things that support faster job growth in high-paying jobs. That means exports, infrastructure, streamlining our tax code, immigration reform, giving minimum wage workers a raise."

President Obama’s economy created over 300,000 jobs in a month, whereas George W. Bush averaged 58,000 jobs created per month during his presidency. Priebus said that the economy should at minimum create 300,000 jobs per month, but during the Bush years job growth only grew by 300,000 or more six times. George W. Bush also lost 300,000 or more jobs six times during his presidency.

http://www.businessinsider.com/number-of-jobs-created-per-month-by-george-bush-2012-5

The president delivered a dose of hardcore reality by highlighting the fact that he is doing something that Republican Party failed to do. Republicans created the Great Recession, while this president has dug the country out of the depths of economic despair.

Obama has accomplished this feat while being saddled with a Republican controlled House that has spent their days trying to devise ways to wreck the economy. Beyond the basic job creation numbers, President Obama has overcome Republican obstruction and gotten the economy back on the right foot.




JOBS REPORT CRUSHES EXPECTATIONS

http://www.businessinsider.com/november-jobs-report-december-5-2014-12

The US labor market is on fire.

According to the latest report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, nonfarm payrolls grew by 321,000 in November, crushing expectations for 230,000.

This is the biggest single-month gain in payrolls since January 2012.

The unemployment rate was unchanged at 5.8%.

This marks the 10th straight month that the US economy saw payrolls grow by more than 200,000, the longest such streak since 1995.

October's report was also revised higher, from an initial reading of 214,000 job gains to 243,000.

According to the BLS' release: "In November, job growth was widespread, led by gains in professional and business services, retail trade, health care, and manufacturing."

Payrolls grew by 50,000 in the retail sector in November, with healthcare adding 29,000 jobs, manufacturing adding 28,000 jobs, and professional and business services jobs growing by 86,000.

The "U-6" unemployment rate, which also includes those who are working part time for economic reasons and those marginally attached to the labor force, fell to 11.4% from 11.5%.

The labor force participation rate also held steady at 62.8%.

Wage gains were a bit better than expected, with wages growing 0.4% month-on-month, better than expected. Year-over-year, wage growth came in at 2.1%, which was in line with expectations. The average hourly wage for all private nonfarm employees was $24.66.

The average weekly hours worked totaled 34.6, in line with expectations.

In addition to October's upward revision, September's gains were also revised up to 271,000 from 256,000.

Here is what Wall Street was expecting for Friday's report:

Nonfarm payrolls: +230,000
Private payrolls: +225,000
Unemployment rate: 5.8%
Average hourly earnings, month-on-month: +0.2%
Average hourly earnings, year-on-year: +2.1%
Average weekly hours worked: 34.6
 

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I was going to say the same thing. Notice that it's worse for men than women: http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2012/5/7/saupload_lfp2.jpg

Combining the genders, the rate has plummeted since 2008:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/part1202121_big.gif

http://static2.businessinsider.com/...ation-falls-to-its-lowest-rate-since-1978.jpg

The participation rate is currently at a 36 year low:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/labor-force-participation-remains-36-year-low-0

There's about 100 million jobs left in this country of 300 million people. 1% of those jobs are working for Wal-Mart. Obamacare may have actually created some part-time jobs in that large employers have scaled most of their full-time employees down to 30 hours a week so that they don't have to buy them health insurance. As the rules stand now, 30-hour a week employees have to buy their own ridiculously high-priced major medical insurance. That makes minimum-wage working people end up poorer because they want to work instead of go on welfare.

Welfare deadbeat is the fastest-growing job this country has to offer. My neighbors are a good example. They faked epilepsy to get a monthly check. They also get food stamps and utility assistance. They've got the state convinced their kids have disabilities, so they get more monthly checks for them. They're always trying to adopt more kids to get a bigger check. For them, working the welfare system got them much farther ahead than working at a low-paying job. Work is for suckers.
 
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Yep. Read anything by David Stockman,

Or anybody else that's not a cheerleader for Obama.

To wit:

Full-Time Jobs Down 150K, Participation Rate Remains At 35 Year Lows, "No Job Market For Young Men"

(click link above to see charts mentioned below)

While the seasonally-adjusted headline Establishment Survey payroll print reported by the BLS moments ago may be indicative of an economy which the Fed will soon have to temper in an attempt to cool down, a closer read of the November payrolls report shows several other things that were not quite as rosy. First, the Household Survey was nowhere close to confirming the Establishment Survey data, suggesting jobs rose only by 4K from 147,283K to 147,287K, and furthermore, the breakdown was skewed fully in favor of Part-Time jobs, which rose by 77K while Full-Time jobs declined by 150K.

And then for those keeping tabs on the composition of the labor force, the same adverse trends indicated over the past 4 years have continued, with the participation rate remaining flat at 62.8%, essentially the lowest print since 1978, driven by a 69K worker increase in people not in the labor force.
The ratio of Civilian employment to the total population, which plunged during the onset of the recession, has still barely budged higher as shown in the chart below:
Finally, anyone hoping that young people, those aged 16-24 are finally entering the workforce in droves, sadly that is not the case once again, with the employed ranks of Americans in that age group down by 169K in the past month. The good news: aged workers, those 55 and over, just rose to a new all time high of 32.814 milllion.
 

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Yeah the labor participation rate is the lowest in years, the underemployment is horrible and the jobs being created aren't decent paying positions.

What you are seeing is the effects of a new Specialized Skilled Economy, which is going to create two groups in America....the HAVEs and the HAVE NOTs.

Those with the Specialized Skills will be in demand in the US and all over the world, with a lot of these individuals most likely residing in other places in the world as dual citizens. You will have no Middle Class, just a "Have" Class and a "Have Not So Much" Class.

The Have Nots will be going along a merry go round of dead-end job, after dead-end job, after dead-end job, never making ends meet and looking for the Government to chip in in some fashion. A lot of these people will just give up working and find a way to get on the Government welfare system or join the Military.

Obama isn't the problem per say, what you have here is 30-40 years of BAD trade policy, bad tax policy, bad monetary policy, bad regulatory policy and a dumbing down of education across the board as well as a public mockery of the STEM related education areas.

The Greatest Generation built America, but it was the Baby Boomers that destroyed it.
 

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* added 6.5 trillion dollars of debt to the country (after calling his predecessor “unpatriotic” for adding nearly $5 trillion)
* his policies have had 11,472,000 Americans leave the work force.
* number of Americans on welfare is at an all time high
* record of 20% Americans on food stamps.
* pushed for women in combat roles
* lost the nations AAA credit rating because of spending
* faggots in scouts
* endorsed same sex marriage
* lifted the immigration ban on people with HIV
* argued in the supreme court to ban books and signs
* wants to see football less violent
* despises traditional masculinity
* administered more incentives and loans for single mothers
* appointed a manjaw to lead the secret service
* pushed for loans to people with bad credit
* responsible for dumbing down the education system with common core
* sh!ts on the constitution
* completely unenthusiastic and disrespectful toward his countries service men and to a lesser extent national anthem.
* more concerned with posturing as a hepcat "niqqa rockstar" and dancing with lezzo's than running a country

And 40 more if you can be assed.

The Kenyan commie is literally a nation destroyer, the worst POTUS to date. How in the blue phuck are you going to sell the Israeli puppet as a positive to men with average to above average IQ's? Personally I'm not sure whether it's funny or offensive that you even tried. As in has the manosphere all of a sudden had an influx of low IQ, breadth of mind lacking, culturally oblivious blue state gibsmedat parasites where you think this sleight of hand bullsh!t might actually fly?
 

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Obama is creating jobs all right. I mean somebody has to clean the hotel and golf course toilets he sh|ts in on all of his vacations. That's a lot of toilets!
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Embers, unfortunately for you the posters here are far more educated and far less blindly partisan than you, be warned. As someone looking for a job, I promise you unemployment is not 5%...LOL. http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
^Concur.

Even intuitively I know those stats are inflated. 320,000 jobs.....well where the fvck are they?!?

U3 and U6 stats are akin to the female "underpayment" farce. Let's just include all women, not taking into account work hours, job field stratification, maternity leave, part-timers, and their terrible negotiating abilities, and then blame some men.
 

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It continues to blow my mind how anyone in the manosphere/red pill environment could agree with anything liberal/democrat/socialistic. There really is no place here for the guys like Embers84 and Gaylan. I know we are free in America and all, but all this 'difference of opinion' and 'varying viewpoints' doesn't work when the ideas are stupid and based on emotion.

I mean, to take media-spewed data and not even give it your own independent thought is the epitome of lazy.....exactly the group the gimmedats appeal to. Ignoring emotion and using logic is a masculine trait as well......masculinity has no use for liberals.

I still cannot figure out why the die-hards sh*t-libs promote. Do they enjoy societal decay? I think they do. The poor enabled ones, they are so dissatisfied with their reality that they want to see the world burn with them. The elite ones, they've never worked for anything thus they have no sense of worth, but through their current situation have developed a terrible narcissism, which leads to their 'philanthropy'.....which is only meant for their own self worth. Selfies in Africa n sh*t.
 

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Fantastic example of the perpetual propaganda sh¡t stream spamming on all channels...

NOW HEAR THIS!!! Numbers! Look! Graphs! And look, more numbers, and some buzzwords like "created". Don't look over there for any context, look here. See? Numbers! More buzzwords! No, no, let's not worry about a total of jobs lost, or continue to lose. Numbers! See, I told you. Graphs, even. You feel good, right? More jobs created. All these numbers are POSITIVE ones that we're showing you. Buzzwords. We aren't going to pee on your christmas tree with negative numbers, just take a look at these POSITIVE numbers. Those are the only numbers WE see. Did I mention, "graphs"? I know, they're only on the screen for a couple seconds. But, you saw a graph, right? Well, here is what you should think about it all. Statistics missing a few necessary numbers. Graphs. You do believe numbers, don't you? Well, let's put numbers in bold then. NUMBERS. Trust us. Everybody else does. Go back to sleep. U - S - A ! U - S - A !


:yawn:

Look through the entire OP. See all those numbers? See any of them point to any reference point? The only numbers I saw were positive numbers pointing to other positive numbers: they're all out of context. After all, I don't remember any jobs lost. I forgot all about it, what, with all the jobs created ho-hah and improving I hear the economy is doing. I'm not sure that there was ever any jobs lost anymore. Things can't be nearly as bad as I'm not hearing they are. Thanks mini-Truth for straightening me out: we've always been at war with East Asia. I get it.
 

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logicallefty said:
Obama is creating jobs all right. I mean somebody has to clean the hotel and golf course toilets he sh|ts in on all of his vacations. That's a lot of toilets!
Ha Ha! Classic!
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I promise you unemployment is not 5%
The unemployment rate is not 5%. The unemployment rate is 5.8%. It was 5.9% last month.The unemployment rate has been dropping steadily since November of 2010. What do you think the unemployment rate is if it's not 5.8%?

Danger said:
Anyone with half a brain on economics knows the job data is cooked
Bureau of Labor Statistics do not "cook the data", they are an independent source that the gov looks for the numbers each month regarding the economy.


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added 6.5 trillion dollars of debt to the country (after calling his predecessor “unpatriotic” for adding nearly $5 trillion)
Bush did not add all of his outstanding war debt to the country when he let office. In order to pay the debt down, Obama had to add all the war debt to the country to put it on the books which increased it. Look it up.

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The Kenyan commie is literally a nation destroyer
How can he be a commie when others on the right call him a socialist? That is impossible to be both.

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Lulz I bet you got that from CNBC. You're way off you leftoid dingus, I'll let my man Burroughs answer it for you.
Citing an old source 1 1/2 years old?? lol
 

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Leftoid dingus coz math is hard

Embers84 said:
The unemployment rate is not 5%. The unemployment rate is 5.8%. It was 5.9% last month.The unemployment rate has been dropping steadily since November of 2010. What do you think the unemployment rate is if it's not 5.8%?
Lulz I bet you got that from CNBC. You're way off, I'll let my man Burroughs answer it for you.

Burroughs said:
the true unemployment rate is 36.7%. If the "participation rate" of adults in the labor market has dropped to 63.3%, that means 36.7% are not participating for one reason or another. This is the worst it has been in 60+ years.

http://news.yahoo.com/dropouts-discouraged-americans-leave-labor-force-160350325.html


At this stage, hilarity must ensue. Not for those suffering, but for the useless media we must turn to for information. The media continues with it's narrative: How can there be such terrible news from so many different economic sectors when everything is doing so well? I mean, really? It's one thing to think the emperor has new clothes before the kid speaks out. But once the audience has walked away and the emperor has been revealed to be stark naked, it's embarrassing to continue on with the new clothes story.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=203874

edited for your edit:

Embers84 said:
Citing an old source 1 1/2 years old?? lol
So what? Your feigned amusement is not going to save you when you're the one claiming it's dropped from 36.7% to 5.8% in a year and a half.
 

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Straight from the horses mouth:

(Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics)

Who is counted as unemployed?
People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:

Contacting:

An employer directly or having a job interview

A public or private employment agency

Friends or relatives

A school or university employment center

Submitting resumes or filling out applications

Placing or answering job advertisements

Checking union or professional registers

Some other means of active job search

Passive methods of job search do not have the potential to connect job seekers with potential employers and therefore do not qualify as active job search methods. Examples of passive methods include attending a job training program or course, or merely reading about job openings that are posted in newspapers or on the Internet.
So, according to the geniuses at the BLS, if you get fired, and stop looking for work after a month (move in with relatives, become homeless, go on welfare, start collecting disability, food stamps, etc).

You are NO LONGER UNEMPLOYED.

You've got NO JOB, but you are NOT UNEMPLOYED.

All the homeless people? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

Everybody on welfare? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

The 40 MILLION folks on food stamps? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

If you CANNOT SEE this is pure smoke and mirrors BS to cover up the fact that the U.S. economy is BROKEN and will NEVER BE FIXED again, I want some of what you've been smoking.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
Straight from the horses mouth:

(Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics)



So, according to the geniuses at the BLS, if you get fired, and stop looking for work after a month (move in with relatives, become homeless, go on welfare, start collecting disability, food stamps, etc).

You are NO LONGER UNEMPLOYED.

You've got NO JOB, but you are NOT UNEMPLOYED.

All the homeless people? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

Everybody on welfare? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

The 40 MILLION folks on food stamps? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

If you CANNOT SEE this is pure smoke and mirrors BS to cover up the fact that the U.S. economy is BROKEN and will NEVER BE FIXED again, I want some of what you've been smoking.
Taiyuu is throwing gas, as usual. Get your ass back to the dugout Embers84.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
Straight from the horses mouth:

(Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics)



So, according to the geniuses at the BLS, if you get fired, and stop looking for work after a month (move in with relatives, become homeless, go on welfare, start collecting disability, food stamps, etc).

You are NO LONGER UNEMPLOYED.

You've got NO JOB, but you are NOT UNEMPLOYED.

All the homeless people? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

Everybody on welfare? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

The 40 MILLION folks on food stamps? NOT UNEMPLOYED.

If you CANNOT SEE this is pure smoke and mirrors BS to cover up the fact that the U.S. economy is BROKEN and will NEVER BE FIXED again, I want some of what you've been smoking.

The 0bama administration has devised a variety of new ways to misrepresent vital , economic and social statistics
 

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I have to put in my 2 dollars worth here:

- To those who question the efficacy of the BLS and other data, how many of you understand the following:

1. How the data is collected

2. What data is collected

3. How to determine statistical significance of factors can suggest correlation.

What is odd is that people here will post "one offs" regarding events, and take it as truth. Yet the BLS, which collects millions of data points and by virtue of that alone will regress any trends to the mean, is something viewed with suspicion. The onus isn't on someone who uses the BLS data to disprove a conjecture ( this could be done with hypothesis testing) - but rather those who question said efficacy. Put another way, rather than simply stating that the BLS cooks the books - HOW do they cook the books? Do they use loose statistical significance to conclude correlation? Is the data sampling methodology poor?

While the answers to those questions are beyond what I know, I take it on a certain amount of faith that the large sums of data that is taken paints a picture enough to glean broad information from. Said differently, employment IS better today than a few years when looked in a general sense. I think a better way to pose the question is a possible interaction between jobs and wage growth. Maybe a weak interaction between the two would suggest that the jobs today could be worse than 5 years ago. But no one has done this study. Its all guess work....poor guess work. I know from experience that its not as straight forward as one thinks, and the data WILL paint a different picture than what you think.

However the old saying "garbage in equals garbage out is true" , which is where many people are targeting their argument. Again, this goes back to sampling methods. I cannot speak to them, but neither can the people who discredit the data either.
 

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the job market feels like it is in much better situation than it was in 2009. it seemed much harder finding a job in 2009 than now in 2014.

with that said, i think just focusing on the numbers we may fail to see the bigger picture, that is, what direction this country is going in terms of developing industry sectors, export, infrastructure, and such. are we headed towards the right direction?

I think that is a bigger determining factor in determining whether or not we will continue to see continual job growth than just looking at the numbers. unless you are a bean counter.

with that said, I think there is a lot of divide in this country in our government and with the level of beauracry this inhibits decisions from being carried out. I think this slows down a lot of progress in the economy. the lack of leadership.

but if the economy is improving, which is seems like it is, heck, maybe the obama administration was doing something right afterall despite all their critics who say otherwise.

also, just because the economy is growing does not necessarily mean job growth for the unemployed, and just because there is job growth doesnt necessarily mean that the economy is gowing--the two are not necessarily directly coorelated but they do affect one another (It's more or less often about the battle between the rich and the poor.) I learned this from playing the game app "government" on my smartphone.
 
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