When to move on....

Aristo511

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I am new here and I want to thank those in advance who reply to this as this has been a bit of a roller coaster... So in a sense I would like to keep pursuit of this absolutely beautiful and smart woman, but I am not sure if I should give up and move on or simply tell her how I feel. Most would say you have to tell her how you feel or make a move but.. I'm at a point where I am just not sure and would like some of advice from people that are completely disconnected from my circle of friends.

Alright I am going to try to get to the steak & potatoes of the issue but you are going to have to eat the peas! So this started as she was a month and a half out of a 4 month relationship. She had been hurt. I already had her number from right around the time she met him but she was being respectful and she said "met a nice man". I said, "thanks for being honest and I will respect that". But she still gave me her number... :D
Anyhow, I was trying to get her to come out with me which was hard to do. I had been using my Wingwoman to try to get her to come out and hang.. LOL! Anyway, finally was able hang out at a function and I had told her had I a crush on her.. She smiled bright and said that we will have to talk about that at a later time, because we were both at a function with a lot of friends. Later that night before I left I told her that we never got to finish that conversation.. Her reply was, "want me to walk you to your car?". Being the idiot male that I am.. my reply was, "naw we can do it some other time". :nervous: So, botched first attempt. Then a couple weeks had gone by and I had made several attempts to get her to come and hang out with me. When she finally said, "I really enjoy our friendship and that is all I am looking for at the moment". I understood she still felt hurt from the previous relationship and my reply was.. "I understand and that I enjoyed her company too and had way too much fun with her.". So the next night she texted me and asked to come out for one drink. I instantly was thinking yah right one drink. Any how I was right we spent the rest of the night talking and laughing. Next time was even better.. Random day during the week. She warned me she was a little tipsy... I told her I would pick her up. So I met her at her house. We spent most of the night talking and drinking. I was getting all the signals, flipping the hair, crossing the legs while making contact with me. She was trying to gauge my interests in other women in the room... I felt like this as going well. At the end of the night I dropped her off. She lingered in the car. I got nervous. Got out and opened the door. We made plans for the next time when she got back from Vegas and had a long hug. The type of hug a guy should have totally made the move. But I choked again. We were still texting during the week and I made another attempt to get her come out and play... :D But she said that she would love to but she was working doubles that week (fresh out of college she just got her masters in psychology) working at a nice restaurant. So, anyway she went to Vegas we were texting each other back and forth. I would send and wouldn't get a reply for a couple days and I would do the same back. Randomly, I get a text on a Thursday saying that she needed to be picked up because her aunt was out of town. So I was nice and said sure no problem right... So, I picked her up. She was looking real good for a girl that just off a plane. Then our way back to her Aunts house... She mentions how they were out of town and what not. I didn't think anything of it at the time. Got to her house, was a gentleman grabbed her bags and walked her to the front door and gave her a hug. Told her I would see her soon and walked off. As Im half way down the drive way I hear "Okay then..." Got in my car thinking she was talking about something else and drove home. CHOKE ARTIST!!! Anyway, I saw her last Saturday with a group of friends and we were having fun. We had made eye contact several times that night. I let it be known to her that I was checking her out and well she looked back for a long time. She then looked away and looked at me again. I kept staring and slowly turned my head with a grin. So, that was the last time I saw her. I left that night shaking hands with her friends and said good night to our circle of friends and went home.

So my question.. Its been a week. The friend that introduced us says, "I think you should give up on her". I must say that there is a general consensus that she has a crush on me, but she is only my friend and she is dating one of my good friends. Would never happen. Anyway, after all that do you throw in the towel? My lady friend (the one I referred to above) says that it shouldn't be that hard to be with this girl. I asked her, "did you talk to her about me?" and she says no that she doesn't do that. I genuinely believe her. Regardless of the crush statement (which is speculatory) we are very honest with each other. So I believe her. I haven't talked to girl of my interest all that much seeing as I am working and she just landed a good job counseling people at a hospital. So again, she rescheduled a date that we had planned on Tuesday and scheduled it for next Tuesday. Also she going to take me out to dinner at a very, very, nice romantic Spanish restaurant. So.. After writing this it seems pretty obvious what I should do. But like most men, I am worried that im reading too much into the signals. Do I completely disregard them? I have dated a lot of women. For once.. I am really stuck. I have no idea what to do. First time I have not dated multiple women during a courtship. She is constantly in my head ****ing with me.. UGH!

I want to thank you guys again. I know that this was long.... But seriously to any brothers in arms out there that know what I am going through.... Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again! Good luck to all of you in your endeavor to get that great woman!
 

MrNiceGuy23

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How did you pass up all those opportunities to make a move? She hasn't been playing with you at all. She's opened the door for you multiple times to take the initiative and you "choked" every time. Choking isn't even a fair word to describe it. You b1tched out at the opportunities, why? I don't know but you certainly screwed up and she either thinks you're a coward or not confident in yourself.
 

Aristo511

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MrNiceGuy23 said:
How did you pass up all those opportunities to make a move? She hasn't been playing with you at all. She's opened the door for you multiple times to take the initiative and you "choked" every time. Choking isn't even a fair word to describe it. You b1tched out at the opportunities, why? I don't know but you certainly screwed up and she either thinks you're a coward or not confident in yourself.
LOL! Tell me what you really think! :crackup: I know I messed them up. So its obvious I cant let another slip away. I got another date with her on Tuesday. I promise you I will make that ish happen. Also, I have never been with a woman this damn hot. I have been with some good looking women, but this one is.... You know what Im sayin. I guess to answer your question... I either didn't want to mess it up or I simply didn't notice till afterwards. The girl before this one I didn't have any issues. She looked at me with a smile and I said, Oh you want to lay one on me? Go for it! She did! I don't know what happened... Shameful I know.
 

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holy **** man you could have had her from the very first time. Your just going to get thrown deeper and deeper into a hole you will never get out of. One day your going to grab your balls and make a move and it might be too late. But honestly just make it move. Seems like your nervous by her hotness, why not just take a breathe and relax shes just a woman... nothing scary or nerve racking about her.... just relax man! MAKE A MOVE!
 

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Instead of being afraid of denial you should just go for it. Man up and make the move. Worst case scenario she denies you, but that's better than thinking back at all these missed opportunities and wondering what could have happened. The thoughts of what could have happened if we made a move are what plagues us and destroys us, not the decisions that end badly for us.

From what you're saying, she seems to be interested in you but also annoyed at your perceived lack of interest in her or your inability to make the move when she drops the hints, "my relatives aren't home" and you just left. She wants to go further but doesn't want to initiate because like most women, she believes it's the man's job.

Well you have one option if you want victory, be a man and do your job.
 

Aristo511

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MrNiceGuy23 said:
Instead of being afraid of denial you should just go for it. Man up and make the move. Worst case scenario she denies you, but that's better than thinking back at all these missed opportunities and wondering what could have happened. The thoughts of what could have happened if we made a move are what plagues us and destroys us, not the decisions that end badly for us.

From what you're saying, she seems to be interested in you but also annoyed at your perceived lack of interest in her or your inability to make the move when she drops the hints, "my relatives aren't home" and you just left. She wants to go further but doesn't want to initiate because like most women, she believes it's the man's job.

Well you have one option if you want victory, be a man and do your job.
Well said Sir! Thank you!
 

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Hi Aristo,

One feels that you may be a toff???

Does your monika hint at a connection to an Earl/Duke/Baron etc??

If you are mixing in those kinda circles, and your hanging out with the Chelsae girl set, then i'll b able to put you straight.

That type of girl, although used to dignity and politeness, are really looking to be taken in hand. Your faux pas of being too polite and not pressing the issue home, does yourself no favours; these girls want a man to show their tail feathers and sweep them off of their feet.

Go forth for St George ;)

I hope after all of this, you are English, and are from the place that I think your from ;)
 

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Aristo511 said:
LOL! Tell me what you really think! :crackup: I know I messed them up. So its obvious I cant let another slip away. I got another date with her on Tuesday. I promise you I will make that ish happen. Also, I have never been with a woman this damn hot. I have been with some good looking women, but this one is.... You know what Im sayin. I guess to answer your question... I either didn't want to mess it up or I simply didn't notice till afterwards. The girl before this one I didn't have any issues. She looked at me with a smile and I said, Oh you want to lay one on me? Go for it! She did! I don't know what happened... Shameful I know.
Stop putting her on a pedestal!
 

Aristo511

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TonyBaloney said:
Hi Aristo,

One feels that you may be a toff???

Does your monika hint at a connection to an Earl/Duke/Baron etc??

If you are mixing in those kinda circles, and your hanging out with the Chelsae girl set, then i'll b able to put you straight.

That type of girl, although used to dignity and politeness, are really looking to be taken in hand. Your faux pas of being too polite and not pressing the issue home, does yourself no favours; these girls want a man to show their tail feathers and sweep them off of their feet.

Go forth for St George ;)

I hope after all of this, you are English, and are from the place that I think your from ;)
I wouldn't say I am toff by any means.. I would like to think that I am more worldy than toff.

To answer your second question. Possibly, but I would never divulge that kind of information.. even if I could, I would not do so on an internet forum. :D

Thirdly, yes the politeness may not be playing into my favour. Although, I did keep in mind that her statement "Im not looking for anything more than your friendship" did always strike a chord when evaluating the situations that she put me in. Which always seems to override, at least in my mind the signals and jesters she was putting out.. if you will.

Lastly, my family is English and migrated to the US sometime ago. I hope that helps shine some light on your speculation! :D

Also, thank you for the kind advice. As many have said on this thread that my kindness has not done me any favours, but it also has not killed any chances. In my particular case, I think there are several factors that have played a role here. In short, my failure to recognize her subtle hints and my good friend giving me bad advice about this woman have definitely not done me any favours. I am glad that I have received the advice of the people on this forum. No matter how harsh some of it maybe, it is important to realize and evaluate where you are at that moment that you are trying to capitalize on an opportunity.

Thanks Tony! I will slay this dragon! :cool:
 

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I too had the opportunity to make a move on a girl, but wussied out. Literally I've felt ****** since.
 
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