When negs go bad...

judoguy

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What do you guys come back with when a neg doesent go so well?

As if you send out a neg and she gets legitimately pissed off, tells you to just go away then or "your such an *******" etc. etc.

Am i just delivering it wrong?

for example, "I always cook for my boyfriends...

me" doubt it"

her" w/e *******" ( turns back )

I feel stuck here because if I apologize it feels like I am supplicating but the neg was taken too much offense...


On really hot chicks... I want to try this

Opener: hey i really like your shirt !
thanks....
I saw like ten other girls wearing it last night....

so last time I was here there was this huge brawl... ( true story)

etc.
 

jtlancer

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For me when it works well it doesn't feel contrived.
It seems like a natural, funny observation or even that
I'm kind of dumb. Like I don't 'get' how hot she thinks she is
and this is the way I talk to everyone at or below my level of
attractiveness. (Which is everyone, I'm an accomplished
man).
 

ARrocket

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I'm not a big fan of negs...I mean you really have to deliver it correctly...and even then, it's usually not that effective. I think you need to change your mindset to one more of "playful teasing" and C&F. For example:

judoguy said:
for example, "I always cook for my boyfriends...

me" doubt it"

her" w/e *******" ( turns back )
This is bad. You're not being playful at all, you're just being argumentative. I would have said something like "ouch, I feel sorry for them!" WHILE HAVING A SMIRK ON YOUR FACE and probably poking her in the belly at the same time. See? Much more playful, and she knows you're joking.

Obviously, more important than WHAT you're saying is HOW you are saying it. So if you were delivering that "doubt it" line, you have to make it obvious you're joking...otherwise you just sound like a d!ck.
 

Razor Sharp

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You're doing it wrong.

judoguy said:
"I always cook for my boyfriends...
Nice! So what are you making me for breakfast tomorrow?

: hey i really like your shirt !
thanks....
I saw like ten other girls wearing it last night....
Okay it's not a terrible neg - but I don't think it will make a good opener. You should reserve negs for after you have a little banter going on, or it will either seem forced or you will look like an assh*le.

You are on the right track though. I've opened well just by commenting on a girl's clothing/accessories. It's neutral enough to not peg you as a creep, but it also shows you are checking her out.

Sometimes I will ask them where they bought stuff, or I will take a guess (Hmm, Dolce & Gabbana right?). I don't overdo it though, otherwise it seems like I'm a homo who is more interested in her gear than her assets. (Note: this is day/street game, in the club/bar I'm a little more forward since chicks are all liquored up and looking for a good time.)

Dont sweat your opener too much. It's all about what you say AFTER you have her attention. By far my most successful opener is "Hi"

As for when negs go bad, there is no way to recover without losing face. Negs walk a fine line between "rascal" and "d*ckhead". Once you cross that line, it's very difficult to come back.
 
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