When does Marriage go wrong

[Burroughs]

When does the expectation of mutual benefit in marriage go seriously wrong in the west? It goes wrong as soon as the “I Dos” are said, or very shortly thereafter.

Why is this so?

Because you, the man have just entered into a contract with the state where you have promised that you will provide everything to your bride, and where the bride has promised nothing.

By the way, the full weight of the law and public opinion will support her stripping you of every thing you have, including your children, and most of what you will ever make in the future, when (not if) she decides to dump you.

Hence, once you enter into the contract you have nothing left to offer her.

Everything you have, or will have, is already hers. The wife has it all, and can make her part of the marriage contract, the portion where she is to provide you with companionship, comfort, loyalty, sex, etc., null and void at any time while keeping everything you have/had/will ever have.

She has no need to associate with you further once you are married (What is the difference between regular Barbie doll and divorced Barbie doll? Divorced Barbie comes with her stuff and all of Ken’s stuff too.)

 

[Crazystarf]

Isn't this the entire reason why roissy and roosh were against marriage in the first place? Especially here in Canada & US.

Once you realize that the divorce rate here in the US is over 40%, you start to realize "maybe being married isn't such a good idea after all".

To others: If the situation had been reversed, what would have happened? Would we have a sitation completely opposite to this? Or would there be something else?

 

[Epimanes]

I believe the OP is just sour.

When the marriage goes wrong its directly related to the LACK OF MUTUAL CARE you have for EACHOTHER. Usually intimacy is suffering because children arrive. Intimacy often suffers even further because women (who tend not to even know this themselves) tend to lose feeling "down there" after child birth when the PC muscle (whichis directly related to the pleasure women feel during sex if its in good shape and also if they excercise it like men are supposed to, will repair itself from the traumas and help return the regular pleasureable feelings they used to feel during intercourse over the course of a few months of working it consistantly) rips which then causes her to desire sex less because she is enjoying far less than prior to children .. which then causes the man to lose interest or become frusterated and seek the NEXT and feeling like he has been had.

ITs a vicious cycle....

I am sure there is plenty more than this but after some of the books I read recently with my wife, she pretty much verifys this since she just recently told me she fits into the info above and so do many of her friends. They just tend not to disclose it due to embarassment or not really recognizing it.

I feel Its unfair to say that marriages begin to fail when you sign the paper ..and put the ring on. Thats unrealistic. I have been married for 15 years and with my wife for 19 years total with two kids. WE are happier now than ever because we have learned how to CREATE compatability.

Epi

 

[Burroughs]

I believe Epimanes is just a troll looking to sell ebooks

any luck faggot? :crazy: :crackup:

 

[Epimanes]

LoL!! Your need to insult is pretty immature, just proves how credible ANY of your posts are. .. i dont sell anything, the info is FREE. I am Just simply a guy sharing shyt that works and speaking from my own experience. Dont like what I have to say? block me then.. I could care less.... NEXT!

 

[PlayHer Man]

I'm not getting married unless the chick is hot and loaded. That means.. she would probably have to be a famous pop star because how many girls 18-25 are loaded? I can't see myself marrying a woman past her physical prime.

So its not in the cards for me.

Add to that.. the fact that no attractive woman with money is going to marry a man who has less than her without some kind of pre-nup. Most women are not as stupid as men.

So unless I'm lucky enough to marry Selena Gomez in Vegas when she finally goes nuts (like they all do) and gets on hard drugs.. marriage probably ain't gonna happen for me.

 

[nismo-4]

F**k marriage! Don't any of you mother f**kers know Briffault's Law?

In marriage, a man has nothing to gain and everything to lose. A woman has everything to gain and nothing to lose. The divorce courts always favor the women. Why the f**k would you sign half your sh*t to a ticking time bomb anyway?

A woman will "love" you up to marriage. When you say I do, she'll say I don't. There's no reason for her to love you anymore. I used to think that marriage was a great thing, but now, it's a great way for a man to get robbed and hurt. Especially if the wife sees that the husband is worth more dead than alive.

Divorce is a woman's happily ever after. Not getting married is a man's happily ever before.

Case closed.

 

[Epimanes]

^-- i disagree. Marriage CAN be great! if you both treat each other right (hence BOTH). But to each their own as you are correct, some people are just not marriage material. However a blanket statement such as the above does not help anyone. Sorry you guys have been barraged with such negative marriage associations. It doesnt have to be that way. There is just so many people without morals that yeah .. for some no marriage is easier.
Chasing pleasure only goes so far though.. what about when you get old and want companionship also?

 

[PlayHer Man]

F**k marriage! Don't any of you mother f**kers know Briffault's Law?

In marriage, a man has nothing to gain and everything to lose. A woman has everything to gain and nothing to lose. The divorce courts always favor the women. Why the f**k would you sign half your sh*t to a ticking time bomb anyway?

A woman will "love" you up to marriage. When you say I do, she'll say I don't. There's no reason for her to love you anymore. I used to think that marriage was a great thing, but now, it's a great way for a man to get robbed and hurt. Especially if the wife sees that the husband is worth more dead than alive.

Divorce is a woman's happily ever after. Not getting married is a man's happily ever before.

Case closed.

Exactly... and I don't get why its so hard for most men to see this. The evidence is right in front of their faces and these morons still don't get it.

Its obvious when you look at the mating behavior of the human female.. always looks UP for a man with MORE than her. Better genes, physically larger, more money, more power, more status, more strength to protect her, etc.

Their mating behavior is parasitic in nature and designed to suck resources from the male in exchange for sex and an opportunity to reproduce. Love ain't got nothing to do with it. LOVE was invented to confuse and guilt-trip men into being a woman's trained slave.

Open your eyes gentlemen. Marriage is idiotic.

If it was about "LOVE" like women claim.. why won't Selena Gomez or Demi Lovato or Jennifer Lawrence date some regular guy working at a pizza shop who has 6-pack abs? Why not? Because she can't further her position in life with such a man.

Women use mating as a way to further their position in life. Nothing more.

Wake up guys.

 

[PlayHer Man]

^-- i disagree. Marriage CAN be great! if you both treat each other right (hence BOTH). But to each their own as you are correct, some people are just not marriage material. However a blanket statement such as the above does not help anyone. Sorry you guys have been barraged with such negative marriage associations. It doesnt have to be that way. There is just so many people without morals that yeah .. for some no marriage is easier.
Chasing pleasure only goes so far though.. what about when you get old and want companionship also?

You don't need marriage to be in a committed sexual relationship that lasts for life. Marriage is just the BUSINESS side of the whole thing designed in 2013 to protect women but originally designed to give men ownership of women.

Of course.. since you are married.. you're not going to come out and say: "Yeah guys I followed my d!ck right into a trap and now my wife has my balls in her handbag".

You're not going to say that. But if/when you get divorced.. you'll be talking like Burroughs. Marriage is great for any man who wants to live a life of servitude/slavery and walking on eggshells while begging for sex. Women love a captive and loyal man, but deep down they don't respect him.

 

[Down Low]

it's a great way for a man to get robbed and hurt.

Robbed and hurt. Burn this into your memory.

Here's something I overheard today walking past a school. Some 30-something just at that moment figured out why her second husband left her: "Your boyfriend said that? Yeah, that's what my second husband was like too. It's like, I have a kid from my first marriage, and he's prolly, 'So when do I get anything from this?'" So she held some man's reproductive ability hostage until he gave up and left. Meanwhile he had to do daddy duty for some other man's kid. And her girlfriend did exactly the same. Oh yeah. Robbed and hurt.

 

[betheman]

Usually intimacy is suffering because children arrive. Intimacy often suffers even further because women (who tend not to even know this themselves) oh they do know!!, if your **** got punched, kicked, trod on, traumatised...would you be fully functional ?
tend to lose feeling "down there" after child birth when the PC muscle (whichis directly related to the pleasure women feel during sex if its in good shape and also if they excercise it like men are supposed to, will repair itself from the traumas and help return the regular pleasureable feelings they used to feel during intercourse over the course of a few months of working it consistantly) rips which then causes her to desire sex less because she is enjoying far less than prior to children .. which then causes the man to lose interest or become frusterated and seek the NEXT and feeling like he has been had.

ITs a vicious cycle....

I am sure there is plenty more than this but after some of the books I read recently with my wife, she pretty much verifys this since she just recently told me she fits into the info above and so do many of her friends. They just tend not to disclose it due to embarassment or not really recognizing it.

I feel Its unfair to say that marriages begin to fail when you sign the paper ..and put the ring on. Thats unrealistic. I have been married for 15 years and with my wife for 19 years total with two kids. WE are happier now than ever because we have learned how to CREATE compatability.

Epi

you might well be happy, happier than ever, good luck to you, how is your sex life now?

 

[Burroughs]

Robbed and hurt. Burn this into your memory.

Here's something I overheard today walking past a school. Some 30-something just at that moment figured out why her second husband left her: "Your boyfriend said that? Yeah, that's what my second husband was like too. It's like, I have a kid from my first marriage, and he's prolly, 'So when do I get anything from this?'" So she held some man's reproductive ability hostage until he gave up and left. Meanwhile he had to do daddy duty for some other man's kid. And her girlfriend did exactly the same. Oh yeah. Robbed and hurt.

Robbed and hurt...thats what faggot trolls like Epimanes advocate. :crazy:

Men really need to sharpen up their skills

WOMEN KNOW HOW THEY ARE MANIPULATING MEN AT EVERY TURN...THEY ONLY HOPE YOU AS A MAN DON'T FIND out.

WOMEN WANT YOU TO OVERVALUE THE GOLDEN PUZZY MIND, BODY AND SOUL

and you know what?

most men do it...even on this site...the married men can be utterly fvcked and they deny it...its like living above the san andreas fault...for most men the hore/mother complex is too powerful to rise above mentally so women are blindly elevated without the least understanding of their motive.

bottom line...if you take care of another man's kids through a gf or wife you are a stone cold moron and deserve what you get

 

[GotED?]

This is a generation (previous and many next generations) of awesome chaos with relationships and marriages.

It will be hundreds of years ahead of us before men will realize what we done liberating women and giving them rights - in essence; we masculinized those we beloved and there will be less and less feminine women who focuses on really being with a man instead of manipulating the man (remember: back in the good ol' days, a woman is with a man out of survival due to his stability, finances, and protection - fook all that now).

Men, as we, deserve what we are getting - because we liberated the immature, irresponsible, mentally retarded monsters out of its cage.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[speed dawg]

What the anti-marriage guys here don't realize is that it's not 'marriage' that's the problem. That's just a symptom of the real problem, which is the pussification of males in general. Confident men don't often get divorced. They typically start off on a good foot anyway by only marrying qualified women who've they've screened countless times.

Emasculated men are getting married everyday before they are ready, and it shows in the long-term. Over the short-term, true masculinity and game can be faked, either with money, class, status, whatever. But in a marriage and real life over a number of years, all that sh*t just melts away and you're left with your true selves.

 

[PlayHer Man]

This is a generation (previous and many next generations) of awesome chaos with relationships and marriages.

It will be hundreds of years ahead of us before men will realize what we done liberating women and giving them rights - in essence; we masculinized those we beloved and there will be less and less feminine women who focuses on really being with a man instead of manipulating the man (remember: back in the good ol' days, a woman is with a man out of survival due to his stability, finances, and protection - fook all that now).

Men, as we, deserve what we are getting - because we liberated the immature, irresponsible, mentally retarded monsters out of its cage.

With respect,

Exodus

Hundreds of years? I don't think it'll take that long. With the information age, I think men are going to wake up a lot faster. I thinking 20-50 years tops.

In order for any system or society to run smoothly.. there needs to be a certain level of balance. Right now the current dating world is severally imbalanced to favor women... as well as marriage/divorce/child custody laws.

When women first came into power (or equality) they were fairly humble about it and maintained their femininity at first (for the most part) so all was good. However, as they become more masculine, entitled, b*tchy, wh0rish and irresponsible.. everything will eventually come crashing down.

Their power comes from men seeing them as innocent and kind. As more men lose the rose colored glasses and learn of the selfish and manipulative tendencies of modern females.. the playing field will start to even out because men will simply refuse to commit to them or worship them. They will actually have to work and prove themselves to get even a sliver of commitment from a man.

Once the majority of men finally see them as the immoral jizz-dumpsters they are... they will be treated accordingly.

What goes up must come down.

 

[GotED?]

Hundreds of years? I don't think it'll take that long. With the information age, I think men are going to wake up a lot faster. I thinking 20-50 years tops.

In order for any system or society to run smoothly.. there needs to be a certain level of balance. Right now the current dating world is severally imbalanced to favor women... as well as marriage/divorce/child custody laws.

When women first came into power (or equality) they were fairly humble about it and maintained their femininity at first (for the most part) so all was good. However, as they become more masculine, entitled, b*tchy, wh0rish and irresponsible.. everything will eventually come crashing down.

Their power comes from men seeing them as innocent and kind. As more men lose the rose colored glasses and learn of the selfish and manipulative tendencies of modern females.. the playing field will start to even out because men will simply refuse to commit to them or worship them. They will actually have to work and prove themselves to get even a sliver of commitment from a man.

Once the majority of men finally see them as the immoral jizz-dumpsters they are... they will be treated accordingly.

What goes up must come down.

Good post +1 - I'll be seeing this evolve from above the sky on the Otherside unfortunately.

Would you rather be in a generation of Vietnam war, World War X, or the evolution of women rights? Sometimes I think a war - at least it keeps the family together.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[Epimanes]

you might well be happy, happier than ever, good luck to you, how is your sex life now?

ACtually ... its fricken fantastic! I dont deny it used to suck at one point after kids arrived and streses of life got in the way while they grew up some but we have come to a place in our lives and marriage where we value the connection and bonding it creates. Learning new things .. and helping my wife better discover herself (shes been ONLY with me her entire life and shes my 2nd). So I guess we are still learning. But really 2-4 times a week! Thats plenty for me.

 

[AlNess]

LOL...it's hilarious to see young guys who have never been married try to sound as if they have first-hand experience with being married.

Even funnier is that they hang out at the "Married Man" forum in the first place.

 

[goundra]

aw, your po lil lizard brain wants to reproduce itself, you can't BEAR to get a vasectomy like a smart man, so you set yourself up for ruination and have kids. tough stuff. I got one decades ago, cause I saw how stupid it is, at least, until you are a millionaire and mostly, kids PREVENT your ever becoming one.