When did it become so difficult?

Frankie515

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Guys, infrequent poster but am on the site everyday.

It seems to me that meeting women should NOT be so difficult. All these rules to follow and steps. If I dont proceed in a specific order then I will have no chance.

This is CRAZY!! Doesnt it seem that it used to me much easier for "boy to meet girl"?

It just seems there is so much involved in the mating game today, its exhausting for guys today.

Maybe its just me but I am 6'2' 195lbs work out all the time and am always told how "handsome" I am but get laid about twice a yr.

Maybe one day I will learn how to finally get game and do what you guys seem to do so effortlessly.
 

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Women like to pretend they're "advanced" when it comes to dating. They're really just simpletons putting on a show.

You're on to something by realizing that it shouldn't be "hard" to get laid. But you have to put in effort, one way or the other. The thing is, if you really enjoy being around/being with/being inside women, it won't SEEM like effort.

Even the most attractive dudes rarely get laid with zero effort, if ever. My college roommate was the kind of guy that ALL the women drooled over, yet he never put forth any effort to get laid, instead relying on his friends to do the work. Of course, some of his friends were so chump-ish they would actually pimp girls to him, so he got some here and there. Or got leftovers by playing wing. Besides that, he severely underachieved with the ladies.

And so did I. :p
 

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you're making too much out of it. the "rules" etc, aren't really rules and procedures, it's a state of mind more than anything else. you could do one thing on a chick and it works like a charm, but do the exact same thing on another one and she slaps you.

the biggest hurdle...always always always...is to actually go out and do it, and have fun with it. you have to meet a lot of women, and keep meeting them no matter what, until you bag one (or two or three) that's awesome for you.

along the way, you pick up some cool chick friends, which increases your social circles and your social proof. along the way, you're fvcking some of these chicks. along the way, you might even pick up a few fvck buddies. along the way, you transform into a very cool dude that has options...which is very attractive to females.

simple as that :rolleyes:
 

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1) getting a woman to go out with you is easy - just ask her.

how many women are you asking out to dinner? unless you're coming back to me with 5-10 a month, then you don't have a problem yet. if you're asking out 10 women a month and they are all turning you down, then you've got a problem.

2) getting women to sleep with you is easy

if a woman goes on a date with you, she's willing to sleep with you, it's THAT simple. all you have to do is not act like an AFC on your date. I recently had a date with a woman. she has a highly successful career (makes over 6 figures, easy). pretty hot, hb8 or so. we go out and she sh*t tests me during the beginning of the date. i didn't let it get to me, i brushed it off no problem.

i didn't say anything, but i showed her through my behavior that i was losing IL in her. at which point she started to through out all kinds of complements (instinctively trying to get my IL up). as she worked harder, i would take a little more interest in her.

anyway, by the end of the date i still was very 'coolish' over this woman. her sh*t test put her behind the eight ball and she was not out of trouble yet.

end of hte night i drop her off and she invites me up to her apartment. i declined and she looked at me with this "let me get this straight? im offering to f*ck you and you are declining?!" kind of look.

i smiled and told her to have a great night and left.

I turned her down because after our date i didn't feel she was quality material. when i was younger i would have banged her for the hell of it. but at this point in my life, it just didn't appeal to me.

the POINT of my story however is... simply by NOT acting like an AFC i had a fairly hot woman who i treated luke warm at best on our date, ready to toss her panties off just to get my approval / attention.


remember, if you are the PRIZE, then you're doing women a favor by asking them to dinner. so start asking more women out and always see yourself as the prize when you are out on the date. do those two things and you'll get laid so much that you'll actually want to a break from it all.


oh and as for all the dating games that go on. just remember, YOU are the prize and as such YOU determine what is and is not acceptable behavior. if I'm on a date with a woman and she misbehaves, i either start pulling back from her on the date, or in extreme cases i'll actually end it on the spot and take her home.

let me tell you, almost NOTHING is as funny as when you basically end a date short on a hot chic and reject her completely by taking her home early. it completely messes up their minds - it confirms every single insecurity they ever had about themselves. the look on their faces is priceless.
 

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I think it is difficult for some who spend most of their time working. you spend 50+ hours in a 5 day stretch at work, usually spending 0 hours talking to women. I can't help but chuckle at those who say they spend 1-2 hours a day trying to chat it up with women when the average American probably doesn't have that kind of time/ energy at the end of a work day. I don't think the process of meeting women is as difficult as finding good time to do so.

I'd rather strike out than never step up to the plate. unfortunately for some, the later is often the case...
 

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agreed on the time issue.
which is why its important to get out there.

make friends with women at work. they will set you up with their single friends.
join a gym.

worse case scenario, be open to approaching women you don't know during your daily activities - getting groceries, haircut, banking, etc.
 

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I agree with the whole as long as you aren't AFC mindset. Women want to be little girls, they don't want to be ****ed by little boys.

HOWEVER - It is harder as women have more options now, they can **** around with no real consequences (sluts aren't as shunned as they once where, they are still to a degree but not as much, it's also easier for a women to have a few FBs). They also don't need a man for financial reasons. Basically women don't need to get into a relationship for sex or money. Therefore they will test and test if they think you are boyfriend material and that makes it harder. The reason why it's harder is because women are soooo cynical when it comes to guys (that might be media or because they've been ****ed over when they where younger).

BTW - Anyone who says that's crap, just look at the amount of girls on AdultsFriendsNetwork compared to the guys and also the quality. Also the fact women (before marriage) earn the same as guys in the workplace.

Guys on the otherhand need to be in a relationship for sex (I'm talking most guys), that's the reason they let their women get away with murder once they are. They're afraid of not having someone to ****.
 

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I LOVE your post -You "GET" it ,dude !
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
This is a re-heat of an old thread. Rather than quote myself, just read through this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=105970
I read your response in that thread...I find it interesting that these women will still stay with their boyfriend's/husband's regardless if they're AFC. Also, if these guys are AFC's to begin with, then how they get these women in the first place is something I'd like to know. ?..this confuses me, because we know it's constantly reinforced here that women are turned off by AFC's and won't get intimate(have sex) with them or get into a relationship with them.
 
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