What's with all the chest beaters and doofuses on here lately.

[skinnyguy]

Shirtless pics lol

My guess is they are gay and they want you to game them.

 

[Infern0]

Shirtless pics lol

My guess is they are gay and they want you to game them.

I mean I go to the gym, I'm in shape but I don't get the shirtless pics on a dude site I just don't

 

[bigneil]

First of all, I'd like to say,

I'm ALPHA!!

Yes, there is no self declared alpha. Unless others agree, you are not alpha. Alpha is a relative term. I'm alpha when I got to 7/11. Not when I go to the white house.

 

[Ronaldo7]

What's the point of this thread?

If you'd like to vent some more, you should assist to a Hillary rally.

A grown man complaining about "chest beaters". It seems the LGBTQ disease is spreading.

 

[Tenacity]

What's the point of this thread?

The point of the thread is to begin the campaign of Making Sosuave Great Again and to Take Our Forum Back.

A grown man complaining about "chest beaters". It seems the LGBTQ disease is spreading.

Right because "grown men" shouldn't challenge, fight back, nor call out anything that's wrong. "Grown men" should just continue to sit back, STFU, and do nothing while shyt crumbles around them.

Nice logic.

 

[Julian]

the world and the internet has been destroyed. this forum rarely if ever had trolling back in 2003 when i first joined. the internet itself has degenerated to the point that its so accessible to anyone now.

 

[blind_one]

Like with everything in this day and age, everything rots and degrades. The internetz and its chambers are no different. I always stood by the principle to f the h8ers, take what you can and use/implement it. If someone is dedicated to a goal, in that case getting you sh!t together development/confidence/women side, you will stick around and grown. Some people are victims of their childhood, some are well prepared. Some people are knowledge seekers.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/when-you-are-doubting-yourself-stop.231034/

As I said before, I will stay and help to the best of my ability, like many people on these forums, those who stay or those who left, helped make my life better and I believe I can do the same, at the same time, keeping tabs on my own development.

 

[Infern0]

What's the point of this thread?

If you'd like to vent some more, you should assist to a Hillary rally.

A grown man complaining about "chest beaters". It seems the LGBTQ disease is spreading.

Yeah good one mate

 

[Bingo-Player]

agreed the site isn't what it was a few years ago ,

simple topics/threads seem to be pages and pages long, full of people grumbling and arguing not particularly interesting to read

IMO mods need to perhaps be stricter on who they let in

im not as active here as i once was partly because ive changed jobs a couple of times climbing up the ladder and dont have the spare time at my desk to post long detailed posts anymore and my personal time is at a premium

in saying all this the site and several older members have helped me significantly , i was give the keys to box and all i had to do was apply the knowledge to my life and for that i will be forever gratefull and will always drop back and forth here

 

[playa99]

This is a very topical thing for me.

I've made one of these threads before and also opposed one of these threads before.

This forum has always had Highs and lows in terms of quality and I do believe it is at a low at the moment.

I also believe that the evolution of the manosphere as well as the boom in social media has diluted the quality of advice on this site.

I have been reading a lot of old posts through the wayback machine and I would say the forum is much more negative now.

I believe the best times here were when liking each other's posts wasn't really a done thing! You've always had hard line red pill guys on here, the difference now is that they are accepted!

The HS forum is pretty much dead, no one posts in there anymore. It would be good to have a youth forum for anyone up to 25.

It's quite ironic, when you become a Don Juan you end up drifting from this site because you have no time for online abuse off trolls!

 

[Atom Smasher]

IMO mods need to perhaps be stricter on who they let in

The age old challenge that we mods face is that we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't on virtually every decision we make. There's no real way to filter who we let in, as personalities reveal themselves over time, and although I'd like to get rid of the more annoying posters who are really just static on here, the danger comes with human nature... The mods would escalate control more and more to an unhealthy level.

The way it is now, we discuss a proposed ban very thoroughly, sometimes probably too much so, because we want to be as absolutely fair as we can be while still maintaining order. We try very hard to err on the side of leniency with established members, warning them that they are on our radar screen and giving them plenty of time to adjust what they're doing wrong (almost always it's directly attacking and insulting other members).

With the noobs, we pretty much have to watch them and see how they will develop. We ban a lot of brand new accounts that are obvious trolls, but there are times when we need to give the benefit of the doubt and let a new member have a chance, knowing that many of the new guys coming here are utterly confused about women but are approaching being ready to unplug.

I would appeal to all of us that we show a little patience toward the new guys (many of you do that already), giving them the guidance they came here for.

It's true that the forum is more negative these days, but we must remember that these things are cyclical, based upon many different metrics, one being the state of our society itself, another being just the necessary natural evolution of our own discoveries, the paradigms we come up with to deal with reality, and the ever evolving (currently DE-volving) social climate between men and women out there in the world at large.

SS is till a powerful force for the good of men. I came here as an utterly confused individual who knew nothing whatsoever about women. I was baffled. I've come a long way, and 99% of my straightening out came from this forum. I recognized that the hard-and fast "rules" and formulas were training wheels, concrete techniques to get a foothold, and I gradually modified them to fit my personality. I can honestly say I have zero problems or concerns with attraction anymore, and that is specifically because of this flawed yet great website. I went from being a 52 year old boy to a 59 year old man, not so much asking for direct advice but rather by assimilating knowledge from others' conversations and putting them into practice.

In other words, when I started I had nothing of value to offer here. Zero. I was a confused mess. Now I'm an unconfused mess!

Fast forward seven or eight years, and I find that this formerly confused adult boy now has an occasional insight that is of use to others here. I'm trying to illustrate that some of the new, confused members who today may ask what we judge to be "stupid" questions, will actually mature to be valuable contributors to the site and to men in general.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Well said

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

a general rant thread will do little good compared to addressing these issues on an individual basis within threads.

Agreed.

Here's something else to consider. On a deep level, ALL MALE BEHAVIOR is designed to attract females. Even when there are no females around.

You may not like it, but without the ever presence of women and the pink passage to pleasure, men wouldn't do squat except sit around and fling poo at each other.

SO, consider how attractive "general complaining" is. Do you think any woman would be attracted to a guy who's always complaining about how difficult things are?

OR do you think she'd be more attracted to a guy who can simply OUT FRAME and handle things as they come up?

Consider all of the chest beating posters here as PRACTICE for how to deal with them in real life. The more calmly you can OUT FRAME them (not OUT FLAME them) the better you'll be able to do when it happens at the bar when you're hitting on Debbie Double D and Charlie Chest Beater walks up dragging his knuckles.

(edited for clarity)

 

[BlueAlpha1]

What's the point of this thread?

If you'd like to vent some more, you should assist to a Hillary rally.

A grown man complaining about "chest beaters". It seems the LGBTQ disease is spreading.

Nonsense.

@Infern0 is calling out guys who are obviously lying about their credentials over and over again, and putting others down in the process. Whether they put down newbies for asking what would appear as game obvious questions to a veteran, or certain people attacking me personally even though I've been here 3 years because I'm "so far behind them in the game". When they act like chodes, they get called out.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Here's something to consider. On a deep level, ALL MALE BEHAVIOR is designed to attract females. Even when there are no females around.

You may not like it, but without the ever presence of women and the pink passage to pleasure, men wouldn't do squat except sit around and fling poo at each other.

SO, consider how attractive "general complaining" is. Do you think any woman would be attracted to a guy who's always complaining about how difficult things are?

OR do you think she'd be more attracted to a guy who can simply OUT FRAME and handle things as they come up?

Consider all of the chest beating posters here as PRACTICE for how to deal with them in real life. The more calmly you can OUT FRAME them (not OUT FLAME them) the better you'll be able to do when it happens at the bar when you're hitting on Debbie Double D and Charlie Chest Beater walks up dragging his knuckles.

I'm not sure I see where the conflict is between what I said and what you say. I agree with you. Am I missing something?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I agree with you. Am I missing something?

I was just adding to your statement. Not disagreeing. I've edited that post to reflect that.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

As a guy who has been here since 2003, I got to witness the glory days of Sosuave back when I was just a 17 year old kid. Back then there was a clear distinction between a don juan and a no life pua. Nowadays, everything is rolled into one. A Don Juan, as defined by Pook, is a man who unites his dreams with his day and attracts women automatically. As a 32 year old man, I have found this to be true. The older I get, the more experienced I am, the more I have to offer, the more my charm is refined, and the less I actually have to work to get women. I've realized now that all I ever had to do was become a man of integrity in all areas of my life. The young guys don't know this, so they spend all their time chasing chicks instead of developing their masculinity and pursuing their dreams.

While the notion of "If you become a great man, women will chase you" is simple to say, it is difficult to follow, especially with our ADHD generation. Everything comes down to techniques and tactics these days. Meanwhile, for those who've made it, we can sit back and smile at how easy it is to get female validation once you've arrived.

The natural order of things is first you become great in life and conquer the world around you (alpha male ), and then the women are the spoils of victory. Like, female validation is actually automatic for the alpha male. It's not even a battle. It's amazing I've rarely run into guys these days that even know this. It is unfathomable to no life PUAs that women are the REAL seducers.

There is like a beta epidemic that is going on these days. Even guys who graduate from college with nice careers are asking "How do I impress women?" Really?!?!? Have women gamed you so badly that you have fallen into the illusion that successful men have no value? It's just an illusion created by women's frame games. Snap out of it.

Become great in life. Realize your own value. And then screen women. That's all there is to it. Once you are at this level, you will realize that you only get along with 5% of the female population, and the rest are pain in the a$$. And you will hit yourself in the head for all those years you wasted chasing after trashy women when you could have invested that time and energy in yourself.

If every guy stopped focusing on impressing women and just focused on impressing themselves, then this board wouldn't be littered with 95% of overcompensating tools trying to convince themselves they are true players.

The real players screen women, they don't seduce. Guys aren't the only ones after validation. Women are too. Who do you think women are after? The alpha males of the environment. So instead of chasing after female validation, why not become...a Don Juan who is great at life and have women chasing after his validation? This is the natural order of things. Becoming great and having women chase you. But nowadays, the young cats think being a Don Juan is about having no life and investing all their time and energy chasing after female validation. This is low value behavior and is the road towards 1000 sticking points and goes against everything this site is about.

This is an amazing post

 

[KingofPuss]

@Tenacity Thanks man. I'm going to start being more active, but I did run into some real issues. In the midst of it now.

@Skyline This. I have had a girlfriend and I love her, and I know how to keep a woman around so I've not had much use for SS lately. School is so busy and I've been doing lots of traveling and fun real life stuff. But without SoSuave, I never would be in the position I'm in today. Both good and bad.

You have to sift through the real good advice, and the stuff that just sounds silly. A lot of new guys don't understand how to do this, and have a very weak frame. They don't think for themselves and figure if what they did worked one time out of twenty, then theyve found success.

I know a lot of 19 year olds who have better game then 30 year olds, so in my opinion age does not matter past 17. I gave advice when I was that age, and although some of it was utter garbage, I also had some pretty decent insight then as well. Maybe you just need to take a break

 

[Ronaldo7]

The point of the thread is to begin the campaign of Making Sosuave Great Again and to Take Our Forum Back.



Right because "grown men" shouldn't challenge, fight back, nor call out anything that's wrong. "Grown men" should just continue to sit back, STFU, and do nothing while shyt crumbles around them.

Nice logic.

Challenge what? Words on the internet?

If you care that much about what people say in a FORUM ON THE INTERNET, i can't imagine how you deal with people in reality.

Nonsense.

@Infern0 is calling out guys who are obviously lying about their credentials over and over again, and putting others down in the process. Whether they put down newbies for asking what would appear as game obvious questions to a veteran, or certain people attacking me personally even though I've been here 3 years because I'm "so far behind them in the game". When they act like chodes, they get called out.

If you get bothered over what other individuals label you as, you should evaluate your self-esteem.

 

[Infern0]

Challenge what? Words on the internet?

If you care that much about what people say in a FORUM ON THE INTERNET, i can't imagine how you deal with people in reality.



If you get bothered over what other individuals label you as, you should evaluate your self-esteem.

Thanks for the psychology advice but you are the one coming in here acting hostile calling me a Clinton supporter or whatever.

Shall we have a word about your unresolved issues, sunshine? What's causing this hostility? Did mummy not give you enough attention?