What's going on here?

[zekko]

I was reading the RSD forum and came across this thread. There's a guy who has lost his weight and improved his game. He's posted some pictures of what he calls his "average night out". You can see them here, third and fourth pictures down:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/176167

The fourth picture down especially catches my eye. I've never been a guy who particularly enjoys going to clubs, so maybe someone can explain to me what's going on here.

We've all seen pictures like this. It strikes me that this picture is set up to feed the guy's ego. Why is there no other dude in this picture? Are we to be led to believe that this guy is banging every girl in this picture? More likely this is a table full of chicks the guy has come across and someone has snapped his picture with them.

Notice how must of them are sort of leaning into him. Is this guy that hot or is this picture some sort of set up made with the goal of making him look good?
And do you believe this really is this guy's "average night out"?
If this really IS the crowd this guy rolls with, I would think it's more likely he is their gay friend. Who goes to a club with seven girls?

 

[squirrels]

I want to know what nightclub he's at. I've been clubbing in a lot of cities and I cannot remember the last time I went to a night spot with THAT many good-looking girls that just happened to be hanging out.

The pics look like they're set up. I'm not saying the guy can't pull, but I doubt he is screwing all (or possibly any) of those girls unless he's got some kind of sponsorship in either bodybuilding or social coaching at this point.

 

[Jamo]

Honestly that is nothing. After living in Moscow for 4 years, those chicks are just so so. Go to a good club there and every third girl is a 8-9, and if ur decent looking you can get group shots easily lol

 

[synergy1]

It could be legit, or it could be advertising for RSD....there is no way to know. I am dubious that there are no other friends...just a bunch of women. Maybe the untrained noobish eye wouldn't pick that out since they think that the only point of going out is women, but I don't buy that. Even the professional athletes who pull more than anyone else don't have lopsided ratios like that, and when they are out, they are out with their boys too.

Listen, when I lived in Boston and a lot of my guy friends were busy, I managed to hang around the chicks who went out a lot. I was the only dude in a group smaller than that and let me tell you one thing, its fun but not as fun as being in a group with your friends. (admittedly the chicks I was with weren't as hot). Likewise, all the clubs I went too, I never saw one dude with 7 smokeshow chicks with them. I got a lot of the 'your so lucky dude, its all chicks and you" but it really wasn't as cool as you might think.

In answer to your questions, I believe the picture is set up to make him look better and to sell a product. If this is his average night out, than he is very unique to my experiences at many clubs in Boston. Lastly, who goes to the club with 7 chicks? A guy who doesn't have any friends to roll with...thats who.

 

[Nkognito]

I dance with girls like that at the country club all the time. Those girls in the picture are average Dallas girls here in Texas and are a dime a dozen. But yes I doubt he is banging them and perhaps he does not know them but the way I see it is the guy was pretty big with nothing going for him.

Now he is pretty lean (I would be very proud of myself too) and he has some things going on for him. I could go into detail and critque his outfit of choice in both pictures and the girls in what appears to be prom/****tail dresses all of which do not look anything like LTR material but that is not the objective anyway right.

The thing is, he has some knowledge to offer and so does that thread. Sponge it up because you can never learn to much.

 

[zekko]

Synergy1, I agree it's suspicious that there are no other guys in the picture.

Lol, I've read through the whole thread now and listen to what this guys says:
"My inner game peaked when I got my first girlfriend to move in w me. Just living with a hot girl made me very happy. She gave me a lots of love and it of course feels good to be loved."
Interesting, for those who are always saying never cohabitate.

But here's the big kicker:
"Most of my transformation was over the last two years. It started out as pretty hard times. First of all if u have a office job, right now u need to get laid off and go on unemployment.

In NJ you will get 600 a week for doing absolutely nothing, for 99 weeks. This is like the government sponsored lottery, and 10 percent or more Americans cash in each day.

Use this time/money to build ur own lifestyle and make money wo being a wage slave."

The dude recommends going on unemployment to build your lifestyle.
Very interesting. Not sure how that meshes with the SoSuave "Improve Yourself" philosophy. Note the guy is from Jersey also!

Apparently the guy is now some sort of club promoter, if I read it correctly. I guess that explains the pictures.

I often see pictures like this where one guy is surrounded by a boatload of hotties, and I always wonder if it is just some set up to feed his ego.

 

[squirrels]

Listen, when I lived in Boston and a lot of my guy friends were busy, I managed to hang around the chicks who went out a lot. I was the only dude in a group smaller than that and let me tell you one thing, its fun but not as fun as being in a group with your friends. (admittedly the chicks I was with weren't as hot). Likewise, all the clubs I went too, I never saw one dude with 7 smokeshow chicks with them. I got a lot of the 'your so lucky dude, its all chicks and you" but it really wasn't as cool as you might think.

It really depends on the group. I've never been a fan of taking "sand to the beach", as a college buddy of mine used to say.

I see tons of guys taking groups of girls to nightclubs these days because we've got this generation of kids who knew nothing better to do than "go clubbing" every weekend and now they're grown up and doing the same crap.

If you aren't comfortable in that environment, that is about the WORST thing you can do. Some guy who's more "WOO" (as the RSD guys say) is going to snatch your girl's attention away from you and then you have to end up getting into a fight or trying to out-macho the other dude.

I was at a club last Saturday and I started busting this one girl's balls about her dress, got her laughing and a little embarassed...kinda right where I like her to be. I didn't even really plan on putting a move on her that night, but she was there with her boyfriend who was some oversized mongo-looking f*ck...and of course, he had to step in between us and give her a big kiss to "mark his territory". It made me laugh because it was such an obvious compensation for his feelings of social inadequacy in that environment...he felt his "ownership" of this girl was coming under threat from me. Which I find hilarious. I'm sure she saw it too. (wasn't enough for her to break up with him or anything, but I know it couldn't have worked well for him)

But if you're out at the bar/club enjoying yourself and you happen to "fall in" with a party of girls who are having a "ladies' night out", the dynamic can be entirely different. I was out once and I happen to recognize one girl in a group of like ten...her ex-bf used to run in a circle I was a part of. Apparently a couple of them thought I was cute enough to invite onto their "party bus".

That was a fun night. You wouldn't think a bunch of girls would want to go to a female-nude strip club. You also wouldn't think they'd be doing somersaults in their underwear off the roof of the bus by the time the night was over. I made them drop me off at my car at the end of the night, but I still to this day wonder what would've happened if I had ridden that bus to its "logical conclusion". It almost felt like one of those "Dancing Bear" things.

 

[zekko]

I was at a club last Saturday and I started busting this one girl's balls about her dress, got her laughing and a little embarassed...kinda right where I like her to be. I didn't even really plan on putting a move on her that night, but she was there with her boyfriend who was some oversized mongo-looking f*ck...and of course, he had to step in between us and give her a big kiss to "mark his territory". It made me laugh because it was such an obvious compensation for his feelings of social inadequacy in that environment...he felt his "ownership" of this girl was coming under threat from me. Which I find hilarious.

So what do you think his right move would have been? Perhaps he saw you as gaming his girl and did this to let you know she was with him, in case you were not already aware. Perhaps he thought that had he stayed out of it you would have crossed a line and he would have been forced to punch you in the face or something - maybe this was his way of avoiding it.

No one is "on" or at their best all the time. Maybe he is not as socially inadequate as you seem to think. If he was so socially inadequate, how did he get the girl in the first place?

Squirrels, I notice in a lot of your stories you seem to get some sort of pleasure out of getting a rise out of girls who are with their boyfriends. As if you are sending a sort of subliminal message to the guy "I could take your girl from you if I wanted". Now I have no problem with someone going after some guy's girlfriend, because "boyfriend/girlfriend" is a very weak type of commitment, really no commitment at all. I'm just wondering what your motive is. You seem to do it just to amuse yourself.

 

[betterthandead]

LOL, BULLCRAP!

It could be a one time thing. This guy is a major tool and an AFC. There is nothing manly or DJ about him.

Reasons:

#1 He lost weight FOR THE WOMEN not FOR HIMSELF , in fact if a guy loves himself he would take care of his body in the first place!

#2 The need to have social picture proof that he is a ladies man, a real man doesn't need to have pictures of him being surrounded by women!

#3 He mentions going out to bars/clubs often. WHY? A real man is concerned with his hobbies, ideas, and hanging out with other men. NOT WOMEN!

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

What entertains me in all of this is that in my line of work (major liquor brand), rarely a week goes by that I'm not around several beautiful women who make a living by being hot and flirtatious. I deal with them at promos, product launches, tastings, on and off premise events, etc. I see women in nothing but bodypaint half the time. On a Friday I may run by about half a dozen in-stores or maybe an on-premise event to check on my "pour girls", and I expect more than half I'll flirt with just as a matter of course.

I could very easily post pictures of myself with hotter women than these on a given night and I'm sure that more than a few SS noobs might think that's how I roll, or there'd be a whole slew of haters doubting it all. That's just the power of perception. I'm not going to do that because I'd rather people consider what I offer here from as objective a point of view as possible and not think I have something else to prove.

 

[synergy1]

I could very easily post pictures of myself with hotter women than these on a given night and I'm sure that more than a few SS noobs might think that's how I roll, or there'd be a whole slew of haters doubting it all. That's just the power of perception. I'm not going to do that because I'd rather people consider what I offer here from as objective a point of view as possible and not think I have something else to prove.

My friend is the regional rep for a major brand and in the same boat you are. The kid is literally around 20+ BLAZING hot college age chicks any time he does one of these events. Me and my friends don't hate on him, but we always admit to each other jokingly we wish we had that type of job rather than some ****ty cubicle one.

Concerning the original picture, I would have suspected it was for advertising purposes. If not, than nothing but props to people who can wheel those kinds of chicks on a regular basis. They are out there, and I still aspire to be that good someday/year.

Respect > hate. always

 

[Warrior74]

When I threw raves and dj'd I took pics like this all the time. It was great, my girlfriend would get jealous and talk **** about all of them and then fvck me like a porn star.

 

[Nutz]

I'm calling BS. The body language in those pictures betrays him. Remember fellas, "your true self will always shine through".

Also, those girls are so-so on average with the best being maybe a 7.5. If those are 9s & 10s in your neck of the woods I really feel for ya. In fact I'd say it's time to move if that were the case.

 

[Jitterbug]

His body language in the last pic screams BETA! pretty loudly. Just look where his arms & hands are. He's literally afraid to be physical with those girls and have a firm touch on them.

He looks like a typical white beta nerd guy who manages to date a few Asian chicks (of the type who deliberately seek out white guys for status and to piss her parents off) to me.

Taking those photos ain't hard if you have the right job or hobby. Sometimes hotties will take such photos with certain guys they deem "safe" - meaning they're too "nice" to hit on them. Those guys are the gay BFF (except they're straight) and teddy bear to the girls. Or worse, they're basically "one of the girls". I see this all the time in my dancing / entertainer social circle. On Facebook photos, the ones who take plenty of those group pics with the chicks are never the ones who get laid. The guys who do get laid often are the ones who don't give a sh!t about taking photos and avoid them.

 

[zekko]

When I threw raves and dj'd I took pics like this all the time. It was great, my girlfriend would get jealous and talk **** about all of them and then fvck me like a porn star.

So what was your purpose in taking the pictures? That's what I'm really trying to get at. Were you thinking "Let me get a picture with these hot chicks so I can use it for social proof and to piss off my girlfriend"?
That's a Mystery Method routine, isn't it? Getting a picture with a hot girl to use for social proof?

I've never been one to take a lot of pictures or mess around with a camera very much, even though I have one. Maybe that's why it strikes me as odd.
Especially the fact that there are no other males in the picture. If it was just a picture of a fun night out it seems like there would be other males around.

those girls are so-so on average with the best being maybe a 7.5.

For what it's worth, I find the girls attractive. However, how hot the girls are was never the point. As I said, you see a lot of this type of picture on pickup forums. I was wondering what these guys' motivation is in having these types of pics taken. Something cool to put up on Facebook? Does he tell the girls "act like you're all into me" when they have it taken?

He lost weight FOR THE WOMEN not FOR HIMSELF , in fact if a guy loves himself he would take care of his body in the first place!

Maybe he did love himself. Maybe he thought "Hey, I'm worth this extra brownie".

 

[Jitterbug]

As I said, you see a lot of this type of picture on pickup forums. I was wondering what these guys' motivation is in having these types of pics taken. Something cool to put up on Facebook? Does he tell the girls "act like you're all into me" when they have it taken?

I find that on PUA forums, the guys are more obsessed with impressing other guys than actually getting laid.

 

[Duffdog]

Interesting,

As a photographer, I will tell you that all of these pictures are set up by...the photographer. Its kind of obvious actually, because all of the girls just want to be "hot" in the picture, but aren't actually into the guy (as dictated by their almost nonexistent presence around the male). For an example of a picture of a guy where it is not a "set up" and a few of the chics want to f the sh1t out of him, see below:

notice the difference in energy and how nothing appears staged, that is how you tell.

I have picked out one loser dude to be in a picture with a bunch of models kissing him just because I felt like it. After the shot is over, the dude just goes back to the corner where I got him from.

Nutz--- good job with the analysis, you nailed it.

 

[Solomon]

mmh k

I was reading the RSD forum and came across this thread. There's a guy who has lost his weight and improved his game. He's posted some pictures of what he calls his "average night out". You can see them here, third and fourth pictures down:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/176167

The fourth picture down especially catches my eye. I've never been a guy who particularly enjoys going to clubs, so maybe someone can explain to me what's going on here.

We've all seen pictures like this. It strikes me that this picture is set up to feed the guy's ego. Why is there no other dude in this picture? Are we to be led to believe that this guy is banging every girl in this picture? More likely this is a table full of chicks the guy has come across and someone has snapped his picture with them.

Notice how must of them are sort of leaning into him. Is this guy that hot or is this picture some sort of set up made with the goal of making him look good?
And do you believe this really is this guy's "average night out"?
If this really IS the crowd this guy rolls with, I would think it's more likely he is their gay friend. Who goes to a club with seven girls?

This thread is hilarious and a tad lame, the guy admitted to being a promoter now, the clubs he's @ are lounges basically with tables were models are. He says he knows Lprince(very well known gamer from RSD who lives in NY) so I'm assuming he is from New York. This shyt isn't uncommon @ all over there, if you been to NY to one of the high end lounges/clubs, a promoter gets paid not by how many people he brings but by girls. There clubs were if you are guy in New York you have to bring in minimum 2 girls or they won't let you in, period.

So yeah I do believe that it's the guys average night out. I can't speak for him don't know him but I do know my nights on average aren' with me bringing a bunch of broads out although there is a time were I can honestly say I made close to a 100 approaches a night. Personally speaking I give the guy props he went from a fat kid to a guy know who is surrounded by beautiful women enjoying the lifestyle. Trust me guys it's not easy to attain(I tried that promoter angle to and got burned out).

In a community were quality control is rarely questioned what worries me is guys like Gunwitch(who shot a girl in the face, yet prior no one saw a pic of him or asked for proof),. There tons of legneds in the game and this forum but no one has gone out the field with them or even much less seen a pic for all we know Pook could have been a skinny nerd with glasses typing from his mom's basement like Gunwitch was. Guys like Xblitz, Sexpdx, MOTU, went out with fellow wings on the forum, and Xblitz I think was the first to post FR's with pics on this forum. I wouldn't mind seeing Rollo doing his thing, although I know he has wife so he might wanna keep that on the low. Personally speaking when I use to post my FR's with pics, it wasn't ego based(well not at first, not until the three some FR :crackup: ) it was for my fellow SSers to hold me accountable to the field and the chicks I was hitting on.

peace

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

If these 2 guys banged the Dahm triplets using only NLP and RSD techniques - you can too!

LMAO

I used to work with these girls on promos. Nice, well adjusted girls, who happen to be Playboy Playmates and will gladly take pictures with anyone, hehehe,..

 

[squirrels]

So what do you think his right move would have been? Perhaps he saw you as gaming his girl and did this to let you know she was with him, in case you were not already aware. Perhaps he thought that had he stayed out of it you would have crossed a line and he would have been forced to punch you in the face or something - maybe this was his way of avoiding it.

Perhaps the right move would have been to not bring your girl out to a meat-market club in the first place. There are plenty of more laid-back bars/clubs/lounges where a couple could go enjoy a drink and even a little bit of dancing.

It was obvious the guy didn't belong there...he was completely awkward in that environment. I know that because I used to be that way and I can recognize the body-language. He's there because his girl dragged him out there.

No one is "on" or at their best all the time. Maybe he is not as socially inadequate as you seem to think. If he was so socially inadequate, how did he get the girl in the first place?

Same reason I get a lot of girls...I'm tall as sh!t.

Squirrels, I notice in a lot of your stories you seem to get some sort of pleasure out of getting a rise out of girls who are with their boyfriends. As if you are sending a sort of subliminal message to the guy "I could take your girl from you if I wanted". Now I have no problem with someone going after some guy's girlfriend, because "boyfriend/girlfriend" is a very weak type of commitment, really no commitment at all. I'm just wondering what your motive is. You seem to do it just to amuse yourself.

Everyone has their fetishes. Which 2Pac song is it that goes, "...went from havin' fantasies...to havin' hoes leave their man for me..."

Besides, 90% of relationships these days are busted anyway. I enjoy giving them a nudge along. It's sham-relationships that weaken the experience for the rest of us. And if they ARE truly good together, then I'll get shut out and they'll live happily ever after...and I'll find another girl to get up on.