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[joe45]

ok i met this girl off this www.plentyoffish.com web site. today was the second time we met up again. first time we met up for coffee, and second we had bubble tea around her area.
the thing i am asking is. she tells me she has a bf back home in china-she is with him for 2 yrs, she lives in vancouver now. i am wondering why the heck she agreed to meet up with me for coffee both times if she has a bf."i have a bf,but he is in china" . on the first date/meeting --she even asked me what i was looking-i said dating and see how it goes-possible long term, and i asked her she said same.
she seems interested . on the first date she asked if we could go skating, tennis and when i was free. she said she doesn;t now it, i said i can teach her. she seems eager to learn. and go out with me again. she also inquired and asked about my previous relationships, what i for in a girl, and like i said she is eager and even mention in the first date she wants to hang out again.

is she not happy with a long distance relationship, or not happy with her current bf....etc and shes looking for a new guy, like looking to see if something is better out there.

she also noted on her profile she's single, and lookign for long term. and yes its a dating web site.


she even met another guy off the web site too. she said he was ok.

so should i press her and ask her hey what are we doing. are we dating,..friends. or should i just accept the fact she agrees to hang out with me and just go with the flow. how can i make her into something more than just going out. not sure when i should go for the kiss, touch her,...etc i'm guessing during when i teach her to swing the racket in tennis.
i'm thinking oif just accepting the fact she wants to hang out with me, and after a while maybe during skating, tennis try to get a kiss, hold her hand and see how it goes. if she rejects than i say forgot about it. kind of like wooo her first. don;t just say out right hey are you interested or not and say forgot about it. i did that before, and i had a lot that say nah no .

both times i didn't pay for her coffee, i insisted on the second date, but she said "no thats ok".

btw i hardly ever get any girls. most girls i meet off the net, i jsut get one coffee date and thats it. the thing she agreed to meet up second time is something for me.

 

[MooseGod]

Why are you asking us? Why don't you ask her?

Don't be needy about it, just impress the fact that she is confusing the hell out of you and tell her straight up what you're looking for. Or do you even know?

Or just kiss her and see how she reacts. I've had plenty of situations where I've kissed a girl, she obviously enjoyed it, and then she's like "oh crap, that wasn't supposed to happen, I'm in XYZ situation." Have fun with that.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

She's single bro. Just this past week my buddy's cousin ending up hooking up with this chick we know who's had a bf for 7 years!!!! He moved to Texas over a year ago, but they stayed together. Most girls operate under a "outta sight, outta mind" theory. Even if they do want to stay loyal to their bf, their lonliness and eventual horniness take over.

But tread carefully, the fact that this chick is in a LDR, yet looking for a local bf, could speak volumes into her character. Don't get too attached, I'd just use her as a fling at the most.



PIMP

 

[Mr. Me]

A boyfriend in China can't take her out and have fun and it's just not practical, so he's out.

Don't talk about him.

so should I press her and ask her hey what are we doing

NO. We don't press women and talk about those things. It shows neediness. Just have fun. Be fun to be with. Have patience. Be laid back.

not sure when I should go for the kiss, touch her

You go for a kiss on the lips, a few seconds of a nice kiss, no deep kissing, at the end of the next date you have with her when you say goodnight. Then smile, say it was fun, and exit.

If she gives her cheek, she's out. She'll return your lip kiss if she's romantically interested.

Go slowly.

When do you touch her? You don't. I know about kino, but it can be more powerful when you don't use it or use it very rarely. BUT don't touch her at least until she touches you first. DON'T take her hand, rub her back, etc. Nothing. She really ought to be touching you way, way more than you ever touching her. In fact, let her do all the touching.

You have to be real cool especially the first several dates, because women are silently evaluating you during that time.

both times I didn't pay for her coffee, I insisted on the second date, but she said "no thats ok".

That's a flag. When women insist on paying the first few times it's because they don't want to feel any obligation.

i said I can teach her

You're telling her that you will perform services for her. Don't be like that. You could instead talk about why you enjoy tennis. You could see if SHE says anything about you showing her how, see?

 

[joe45]

A boyfriend in China can't take her out and have fun and it's just not practical, so he's out.

Don't talk about him.



NO. We don't press women and talk about those things. It shows neediness. Just have fun. Be fun to be with. Have patience. Be laid back.



You go for a kiss on the lips, a few seconds of a nice kiss, no deep kissing, at the end of the next date you have with her when you say goodnight. Then smile, say it was fun, and exit.

If she gives her cheek, she's out. She'll return your lip kiss if she's romantically interested.

Go slowly.

When do you touch her? You don't. I know about kino, but it can be more powerful when you don't use it or use it very rarely. BUT don't touch her at least until she touches you first. DON'T take her hand, rub her back, etc. Nothing. She really ought to be touching you way, way more than you ever touching her. In fact, let her do all the touching.

You have to be real cool especially the first several dates, because women are silently evaluating you during that time.



That's a flag. When women insist on paying the first few times it's because they don't want to feel any obligation.



You're telling her that you will perform services for her. Don't be like that. You could instead talk about why you enjoy tennis. You could see if SHE says anything about you showing her how, see?

i haven;t kissed her yet, or even touched her. yesterday was the second meeting we met up.
i'm not even sure if i should or not. i don;t want to come off as needy and abrupt. i'm waiting for the movie in theatre night, possible tennis match up time. lol don;t want to get charged for asexual assualt for kissing a girl who doesn;t want to be kissed lol.

she seems interested when i mention if she wants to play tennis, hiking aka activity so called dates. and eager too. she even told me prior to meeting her for the first time , that she was looking to date. i said i was too.

 

[DonGorgon]

You are thinking too hard.. be her friend flirt then f her... she wants it.