What Red Flags just have to be experienced in a man's DJ journey?

[2Rocky]

There is a saying that "good experience comes from bad judgement". What has to be experienced first hand?

 

[SargeMaximus]

Trying to “make it work” iykyk

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Genuine interest vs being her second choice and below

 

[Mike32ct]

Get burned really badly by the friendzone.

 

[member160292]

Chasing what wasn’t there to begin with numerous times
Lesson learned - Only pursue high interest.

 

[forcerecon01]

Pedestal izing ,neediness,and desperation

 

[Serenity]

Betrayal

You think you know, but then discover you still have much to learn.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Don’t be fooled that a relationship or a vag bring you a sense of self worth. Don’t date or make serious decisions if you’re working through something.

 

[CollegeMan22]

Appreciation of her after s*x leading to her leaving you.

I would have girls stay overnight and f*ck/cuddle with them all night. I would come out super tired the next day but I thought it was worth it. Then they would leave me after 1-3 times. Afterwards I started kicking them out 5 minutes after sex (with the advice of Heartiste), and BOOM! they were begging to stay with me. Like grasping as hard as they could onto my body as I threw myself off the bed with my strength. Then I would maintain frame, tell them some reason, and kick them out. As soon as I started doing that, I got great and frequent s*x.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Appreciation of her after s*x leading to her leaving you.

I would have girls stay overnight and f*ck/cuddle with them all night. I would come out super tired the next day but I thought it was worth it. Then they would leave me after 1-3 times. Afterwards I started kicking them out 5 minutes after sex (with the advice of Heartiste), and BOOM! they were begging to stay with me. Like grasping as hard as they could onto my body as I threw myself off the bed with my strength. Then I would maintain frame, tell them some reason, and kick them out. As soon as I started doing that, I got great and frequent s*x.

Thank god I never experienced this lol.

 

[Stanley]

Get your heart stomped by a red flag ridden BPD girlfriend.

 

[CollegeMan22]

I also think that balls are earned, not learned.

You have to get to a point where you are willing to lose the girl if you want to go any further. You have to be willing to put your hand on her chin and bring it towards yours for the kiss. You have to be willing to take her hand, say we're "going on a walk", and lead her back to your room. You have to be willing to put her hand on your c*ck as you're making out, once you're back at your place.

There will be fear before all of these escalations. But you can't learn to overcome that fear by reading a book. You have to feel it run through you, tell it "f*ck off", and go for it anyways. And once you get the first success at a given stage, you gain the confidence to do it for your entire life.

 

[startstrongtoday22]

A chick who talks to you over the phone, but then doesn't come o

I also think that balls are earned, not learned.

You have to get to a point where you are willing to lose the girl if you want to go any further. You have to be willing to put your hand on her chin and bring it towards yours for the kiss. You have to be willing to take her hand, say we're "going on a walk", and lead her back to your room. You have to be willing to put her hand on your c*ck as you're making out, once you're back at your place.

There will be fear before all of these escalations. And you can't learn to overcome that fear by reading a book. You have to feel it run through you, tell it "f*ck off", and go for it anyways. And once you get the first success at a given stage, you gain the confidence to do it for your entire life.

That is 100%. Best is if they play hard to get is to go no contact on them and have them chase.

Sometimes a girl may say no, just to test you, but on 5th try she may say yes.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I just saw the cuck display of the century. Typically women in the mental health circle rally around the husbands but this was so bad he wasn’t getting any love today and you’ll see why.

Don’t end up being the husband who pushes a stroller taking conference calls picking up both his and another guy’s kids (who makes 500k running a major pharma unit) because my ex wife just flew their wives down to Florida

Don’t rush, don’t settle. Realize as soon as possible that your life is a canvas that you get to create anything you want on.

 

[CollegeMan22]

Sometimes a girl may say no, just to test you, but on 5th try she may say yes.

I had this Christian chick on a secluded park bench at night for our first date. She was talking religion and ****, also drilling me with questions. Hadn’t kissed before. I went for it 1 hour in, and got physically rejected. “I’ll think about it,” she says.

2nd try … no. 3rd try … no. 4th try … no. But now her head is resting on my chest and I’m getting impatient. So I say “last chance!”, grab her chin, and get it. I pull back and she immediately sh*t tests me: “that wasn’t as good as I thought it would be”. I tell her, “well I’ll show you how to do it”. We make out, then I give her tips, then we make out again. At some point she starts literally slamming her face into mine — most intense make out session I’d ever had — for 10 min straight while I squeeze her tits. The rest is history. Fun night.

 

[startstrongtoday22]

I had this Christian chick on a secluded park bench at night for our first date. She was taking religion and ****, also drilling me with questions. Hadn’t kissed before. I went for it 1 hour in, and got physically rejected. “I’ll think about it,” she says.

2nd try … no. 3rd try … no. 4th try … no. But now her head is resting on my chest and I’m getting impatient. So I say “last chance!”, grab her cheek, and get it. I pull back and she immediately sh* tests me: “that wasn’t as good as I thought it would be”. I tell her, “well I’ll show you how to do it”. We make out, then I give her tips, then we make out again. At some point she starts literally slamming her face into mine — most intense make out session I’d ever had — for 10 min straight while I squeeze her tits. The rest is history. Fun night.

persistence pays, as long as she does not freak out. i remember back in the day, i read something that said if she says no to kissing you and you freak out, then she will think to herself how would this guy react if i say no to anal sex later lool. So I learned as long as you are having fun and she is going along with it and your not forcing her, but she resists to be playful, you just do your thing lol

 

[startstrongtoday22]

I just saw the cuck display of the century. Typically women in the mental health circle rally around the husbands but this was so bad he wasn’t getting any love today and you’ll see why.

Don’t end up being the husband who pushes a stroller taking conference calls picking up both his and another guy’s kids (who makes 500k running a major pharma unit) because my ex wife just flew their wives down to Florida

Don’t rush, don’t settle. Realize as soon as possible that your life is a canvas that you get to create anything you want on.

You make marriage look like it's pure garbage, and I would love to hear your story about why you think marriage for us guys is useless and doesn't get us anywhere, make a thread man. I recently was going after an ex lol, and then went no contact and she began chasing me, and i didn't contact her, so i am feeling good.

 

[RazorRambo24]

For young guys, finding out that you're a rebound.. Not something you can ever really tell.. But a sign of it is usually that the girl seems real eager to get to know you really fast.. For guys who already get alot of attention, its hard to catch this.. but with experience you can tell..

Most dudes don't even know what rebounding is orthat girls do this.. and don't ever know until it happens to them

For those of you who are like huh?

Rebound = A girl uses you as comfort / support pillow /bandaid after their partner or lover hurts them/breaks their heart/breaks up with them... They only choose you for temporarily relief and particularly go after guys who they know they won't ever have feelings for (ouch), because that way they can ensure they won't be hurt, while basically using you to get over someone..
Why they call it a rebound is, majority of the time, they end up going back to the person / their ex as soon as he returns or as soon as they are over what happened.. Or, they'll move onto a better suited partner--using you as a buffer in the time being..

 

[2Rocky]

For young guys, finding out that you're a rebound..

Yes to this. For me in college it was the first woman who I'd had sex multiple times with. I knew I was her rebound when I first met her. I didn't realize she was still bouncing. While she hooked up with one of my Fraternity bros, I met the woman I would marry 2 years later.

 

[Gamisch]

There is a saying that "good experience comes from bad judgement". What has to be experienced first hand?

That men are more romantic than women.

It takes experience to understand that we only saw the best side of the Disney princesses. We will learn the hard way that dealing with women is like dealing with pitbulls.

That loyalty is scares.

That in order to lead a woman one must be able to lead himself first, in every aspect of life.

That all the cliches are there for a reason. She is not your it's your turn.

That beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That t1ts and azz alone won't cut it in the long run.