What is my Ideal protein intake?

[Matlm]

Hi,

I am about 5'9, 155 lbs, and roughly 13 percent body fat.

What should my ideal protein intake be, in grams, for me to really bulk up.

 

[One on One]

People usually will suggest 1.0 g of protein per lb. of body weight for bulking. You shouldn't have much of a problem getting there if you eat 5-6 meals per day.

I am 195 lb. and I eat 5 meals per day and I'm always looking for high protein. Here's my average daily intake so you can critique if you want:

Breakfast: 2 eggs scrambled in 4 oz. milk, 12 oz. OJ = 19 g

Lunch: Turkey w/ cheese sandwich on multigrain bread, 16 oz. milk, chips = approx. 45 g

Afternoon: Same as lunch or pizza or burger = approx 45 g

Dinner: Varies (fish, chicken, pasta, burger, high protein stuff), 16 oz. milk, vegetable or some side = approx. 50 g

Night: Can of tuna, 12 oz. OJ = 35 g

Total = 194 g.

I've been doing this for about a month and coupled with Max-OT training, I've gained about 7-10 lbs.

 

[nunyabiznass]

First of all I'm sick of seeing this bull****, u need 1-1.5 grms of protein per POUND of bodyweight, because your body cannot handle that much, your ****ing kidneys cant handle that, u only need .5(minimum) to MAYBE MAXIMUM OF 1.25 GRAMS per KILOGRAM of bodyweight, and I am not some uneducated **** on here running my lips, ive done research, and my brother who has his masters in kinesiology, and is currently taking his Phd. in toxicology, has worked with body builders, training them and the last one he worked with only took about .75-1.0 grams per kilogram of bodyweight, a professional bodybuilder. Attempting to get 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is ridciulous, and are literally pissing your money away and wasting your time, not to mention placing immense stress on your kidneys, as the excess protein is converted to nitrogen and released in your urine. If you dont believe me that's fine, you are entitled to stupidity, but myu results have been amazing, with about one gram of protein per kilogram of body weight, ive put on in 6.5 months, 20 pounds, working out 5 days a week sleeping right and eating properly. I'm just trying to help but its just frustrates me to keep readin these absurd amounts of protein being recommended to be ingested. thank your for your time i hope ive helped.

 

[nunyabiznass]

First of all I'm sick of seeing this bull****, u need 1-1.5 grms of protein per POUND of bodyweight, because your body cannot handle that much, your ****ing kidneys cant handle that, u only need .5(minimum) to MAYBE MAXIMUM OF 1.25 GRAMS per KILOGRAM of bodyweight, and I am not some uneducated **** on here running my lips, ive done research, and my brother who has his masters in kinesiology, and is currently taking his Phd. in toxicology, has worked with body builders, training them and the last one he worked with only took about .75-1.0 grams per kilogram of bodyweight, a professional bodybuilder. Attempting to get 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is ridciulous, and are literally pissing your money away and wasting your time, not to mention placing immense stress on your kidneys, as the excess protein is converted to nitrogen and released in your urine. If you dont believe me that's fine, you are entitled to stupidity, but myu results have been amazing, with about one gram of protein per kilogram of body weight, ive put on in 6.5 months, 20 pounds, working out 5 days a week sleeping right and eating properly. I'm just trying to help but its just frustrates me to keep readin these absurd amounts of protein being recommended to be ingested. thank your for your time i hope ive helped. OH one more thing, I believe people believe everythign they read in those bodybuilding magazines, and many bodybuilders preach this retarded 1-1.5 grams of protein per POUND of bodyweight, because it pushes people to purchase protein powder in order to reach these crazy daily protein "requirements", which in return boost salesm because u will use your powder much quicker, and buy tubs more frequently.
and I REPEAT..... I am not here to be an *******, take this advice how you want, or dont take it at all, I hope ive helped some people today. have a good one..... peace!

 

[nunyabiznass]

First of all I'm sick of seeing this bull****, u need 1-1.5 grms of protein per POUND of bodyweight, because your body cannot handle that much, your ****ing kidneys cant handle that, u only need .5(minimum) to MAYBE MAXIMUM OF 1.25 GRAMS per KILOGRAM of bodyweight, and I am not some uneducated **** on here running my lips, ive done research, and my brother who has his masters in kinesiology, and is currently taking his Phd. in toxicology, has worked with body builders, training them and the last one he worked with only took about .75-1.0 grams per kilogram of bodyweight, a professional bodybuilder. Attempting to get 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is ridciulous, and are literally pissing your money away and wasting your time, not to mention placing immense stress on your kidneys, as the excess protein is converted to nitrogen and released in your urine. If you dont believe me that's fine, you are entitled to stupidity, but myu results have been amazing, with about one gram of protein per kilogram of body weight, ive put on in 6.5 months, 20 pounds, working out 5 days a week sleeping right and eating properly. I'm just trying to help but its just frustrates me to keep readin these absurd amounts of protein being recommended to be ingested. thank your for your time i hope ive helped. OH one more thing, I believe people believe everythign they read in those bodybuilding magazines, and many bodybuilders preach this retarded 1-1.5 grams of protein per POUND of bodyweight, because it pushes people to purchase protein powder in order to reach these crazy daily protein "requirements", which in return boost salesm because u will use your powder much quicker, and buy tubs more frequently.
and I REPEAT..... I am not here to be an *******, take this advice how you want, or dont take it at all, I hope ive helped some people today. have a good one..... thank you for your time.

 

[nunyabiznass]

**** SORRY ABOUT THAT I DIDNT THINK MY MSGS WERE BEIGN POSTED! THE THIRD ONE IS THE FINAL COPY had a few extra things to say. sorry in advance.

 

[semag]

yeah.

I'm really gonna take advice from a retard fukkwad who can't even figure out how to use an internet message board.

riiiiiiiight.

 

[Abnigh9]

Righttttttt....... I'm with semag.

First, it's pathetic you think your msg weren't being posted. Not going to go into that though.

Second, digesting rate is different for everyone. Your brother is becoming a DOCTOR. Next he'll advocate the devil and say weight lifting is bad, which is what most doctor say.

It does put stress on our poor kidney, but guess what? All of the food that goes through put stress on our kidney too!

There is someone who I depended on, he gained 30 lb. of pure muscle (... ok fine, a little fat) in only 6-7 weeks!

Now how did he do it? He said, "water".

Yup. You need water. No water, your body will not process anything.

Your body is made up of more than 70% of water anyway.

 

[nunyabiznass]

both of you are attempting to **** on me, but what happened was i hit the submit button and it never loaded! then the third time it loaded and i realized the first two times it was submitted, and the third time i revised it. Secondly, my brother knows more about the body and effects of excess protein on your system than and of you will ever know, there is scientific evidence to support, the damage excessive amounts of protein can cause, and by stress i dont mean, it makes your kidneys work, it causes damage IDIOTS! AND YES U NEED WATER, i dont need a pathetic lesson in water intake, but u dont need to drink 8- 10 glasse a day, because water is in virtually everything, milk, fruit juices etc........ and u can easily get your supply from tyhese things. no matter how much water u drink, if u drinke excessive amounts of protein (1-1.5 grams per POUND) u will cause damage, and u WILL WASTE YOUR MONEY shovelling in 100's of grams of protein everyday.I didnt say u cant put muscle on with 1-1.5 grams of protein per POUND all i said is you're wasting your time and money scrambling to meet this ridiculous "requirement" so keep readin your stupid bodybuilding magazines, and replying with your obvious lack of intelligence and understanding on the functions of the human body and effects of nutritional intake. Pretty soon ill be seeing you proclaiming people need 2 grams of protein per gram of body weight.

 

[semag]

yeah.

I'm really gonna take advice from a retard fukkwad who can't even figure out how to write a complete sentence and/or use paragraphs.

riiiiiiiight.

 

[nunyabiznass]

Obviously, whether I used paragraphs or sentences made no difference, because you can't read, and why would I mke that effort for a ****ing online forum, im not handing this in to get a mark in english class you moron. peace

 

[semag]

Let me explain this to you my small-minded, ignorant friend.

In a forum such as this, where people come to exchange ideas, the first thing that will give an impression about your intelligence and whether or not your ideas are credible is in your presentation. If you present your idea with a lack of sources, a lack of grammar, a lack of spelling, and an overall retarded atmosphere then we'll all dismiss you completely.

Which is why you're not making a good impression.

"peace."

 

[nunyabiznass]

u have a crush on me don't ya?

 

[semag]

If by crush you mean I wanna take you out back and beat you with a baseball bat, then oh baby, bring on the lovin

 

[nunyabiznass]

how did u know i had a baseball bat fetish? u like my ****y+funny dont you?

 

[madgame]

Im taking in around 1,7/1,8 g of protein per kg bodyweight, which would be about 0,8g of protein per lb of bodyweight and by doing this Ive been getting really good results. I think the amount of protein u need to take is often highly-overrated (when I hear ppl say you need a MINIMUM of 1g per lb of bodyweight..up to 2g per lb of bodyweight). I cant tell whether I would have been getting even better results, but mine have been satisfying for years and if you assume that 10kg (22lbs) a year is usually the maximum a bodybuilder can gain (if they work out all muscles..including legs, back, etc. which are like 60-70 % of the whole muscle mass) I think Im really close to it. So I think its bull**** to tell people that 1g per lb of bodyweight is the absolute MINIMUM they should take in. I was also able to maintain my whole muscle weight during a cutting phase of 2 months by takin in about 0,6-0,7g per lb bodyweight (and people will usually tell u that u need AT LEAST 1g of protein per lbs bodyweight durign a cutting phase...again).

However 0,5g per KG (the minimum u suggested) of bodyweight would definetly not do for me. I used to get results with about 1,3g protein per lbs bodyweight, but they were definetly WAY smaller than those that I get when I take in more protein.
By the way I think all of these examples Ive given (experiences I made through trial and error) can be backed up with theory as well. Your body needs 0,8-1 g protein per lb of bodyweight if u want to keep the muscle you have (sometimes I read 0,8 sometimes 1,0). Thus you need more than 1g to put on muscle mass, the more the better though at a certain amount itll probably hardly make a difference.

I know all the theory talk sounds fine, but I know whats been working for me. And though they say everybody is different I think my body works the way most ppls bodies do and u cant say this might be true for you but not for another person....though there are always exceptions.

How long did ur brother work with this professional bodybuilder? Either he was lying to your brother or he hadnt taken that little protein during his whole career.

 

[semag]

oh yeah... and here's some math for you mr. nunyabizness.

If we assume the body is a perfect entity, and everything you eat gets converted perfectly, then 10kg in one year is 10,000 g in one year, which is ~27 g/day. If someone that weighs 80kg is 176 lbs, then by your theory, that person would eat 40g of protein a day. However, 27g of that is going to the bulking, so you're leaving 13 g for your whole body to maintain itself? The math doesn't make sense!

Even though the body doesn't quite work this way, the sheer volume does, and 10kg in a year is a lot of g's of protein, which are all combined daily to make up your muscle.

 

[Kodiac]

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