What is Muscle Failure? What is the limit?

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What is meant by muscle failure? What is the limit? Many times i can keep on going, but its painful and i feel like i'm going to injure myself. Sometimes i can even keep on maintaing good form but still i have this feeling.
 

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Going to failure is going to that last rep. It means you can not put in any more reps after that.


Many people exercise not going to failure until the last set and sticking with a specific number of reps for each set.


The ups? You wont fatigue as early on.
 

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As CL says, it is when you can't do any more reps. If you stop because you fear that you will hurt yourself then you should do some serious warm up before you start pumping away. How does your warm up routine look like? If you are new to body building then the muscles will need a couple of weeks to adapt to heavy weights.

ALWAYS GO TO FAILURE! Fewer but heavier sets are better than many and light. Never ever train in other fashion.
 
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muscle failure to me...

muscle failure to me, is being unable to finish a repetition in a certain set... not even if for all the girls in the whole world.

not even 100,000,000,000$. That is when you call it muscle failure.

not even for your life. or your families lives. push it to the limits & grow.

Life force: Although I agree it's a very, very good workout routine and it is when i get the most results, i have heard good things about HST (Hypertrophy Specific Training)

Different people react to different workouts. So variety is key to finding that which suits your body. :)

Oh, and i'd like to add, muscle failure works best for me doing 4, 5 or 6 reps. Having a spotter is very important when it comes to exercises that require muscle failure.
 

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Originally posted by blabla
What is meant by muscle failure? What is the limit? Many times i can keep on going, but its painful and i feel like i'm going to injure myself. Sometimes i can even keep on maintaing good form but still i have this feeling.
In order to insure that you push your muscles to failure,

1. find out your max--how much you can lift in proper form

2. divide that number by .20

.....that's how much you should be lifting. Also try performing your repetitions slow, meaning 4 seconds up and 2 seconds down. Or if you really want to push to muscle failure, do 10 seconds up and 5 seconds down. At best you'll be able to do about 4 to 7 repetitions, but you'll notice results in a 6-week period.
 

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Re: Re: What is Muscle Failure? What is the limit?

Originally posted by Nightwing
In order to insure that you push your muscles to failure,

1. find out your max--how much you can lift in proper form

2. divide that number by .20

.....that's how much you should be lifting. Also try performing your repetitions slow, meaning 4 seconds up and 2 seconds down. Or if you really want to push to muscle failure, do 10 seconds up and 5 seconds down. At best you'll be able to do about 4 to 7 repetitions, but you'll notice results in a 6-week period.
By finding your max and dividing it by a number less than one, you will have a heavier weight than your max. Not quite sure what you meant here... Maybe multiply by .20?
 

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Anybody who says never workout any other way except to failure should be kicked. Quit being cultists, you nutjobs.

Anyways, there are three types of failure - positive, negative and isometric (static hold). Try reaching all three forms of failure in one set.

Make sure to add 20-rep breathing squats to any failure routine you do.
 

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I think he mean times it by .8
 

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I am a newb to gyms and body building.

What are those three types of failure? You mean that people can fail in one way but not all-together? You mean you can still hold it up and push it up (isometric/positive) but fail in bringing it down?

What warm up routine would you suggest?

Finding my max w/ proper form and multiplying the weight by 5? No.

What is HST?

If you are new to body building then the muscles will need a couple of weeks to adapt to heavy weights.
I am new to body building so what do i do to acusstom myself?

Make sure to add 20-rep breathing squats to any failure routine you do.
As a warm up? What is it specifically?

(The reasons why i want to do this is not to gain large muscles but to feel vitality and health and to not be over weight / be a skinny fat)

The failure thing seems like an invitation to injure youself too.
 

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Positive is getting the weight up.

Isometric is holding it in a still position.

Negative is letting the weight down (if you can't control the descent speed, you have hit negative failure)

You are new, so before all make sure you are using VERY GOOD FORM, especially before attempting 20-rep squats. This explains 20-rep squats:

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/callum12.htm

Squat deep or don't squat at all. :)
 

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Get the form perfect for every single excersize you do. Do it slowly and keep everything under control.

As you're a begginer, firstly make sure you have proper form. You can do this by checking out bodybuilding.com and seeing how to do all the excersizes.

Do it with the bar/dumbell with no weights on at first. Then slowly begin to add the weight. Remember that your muscle isnt used to all these heavy weights, so dont try to lift as much as you can all at once. Your body wont like you for it at all, it'll wonder what the hell you're doing to it and you'll probably injure yourself.

Instead of that, build up the weight. Make sure that every single time you're doing the excersize, you are doing it with proper form and control, going through the whole range of movements that have been outlined with that excersize.

As you're starting out, stick to compound lifts. These are movements that use almost all of the muscle, instead of just certain parts of it. These are things such as shoulder presses, bench presses, squats etc. These will give you more strength and mass than the other exersizes such as fly's and front raises.

When you've been doing this for 6 weeks or so, start to really up the weight and push yourself. You want to make every moment you make in the gym count, and you want to put everything into it at once to blast that muscle. Thats what gets results.

Another aspect you might not realise, is that diet plays a huge part in building muscle. My diet isnt exactly perfect, and never has been, so I'll refer you to DIESELS bulking guide that has been stickied for your reading pleasure. I suggest reading both the cutting and bulking articles so you have a good amount of knowledge.

... Right, thats what I think is right but I'm not really a very experienced bodybuilder [not been doing it almost 1/8 of the time a lot of these guys have] so hopefully you guys can correct anything/add anything in to what I just said.

Good luck with it
 

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Re: Re: Re: What is Muscle Failure? What is the limit?

Originally posted by DJUofS
By finding your max and dividing it by a number less than one, you will have a heavier weight than your max. Not quite sure what you meant here... Maybe multiply by .20?
Youre right. I wrote this stuff early in the morning and wasnt thinking about it too much. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
 
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