What I just went through...

[jonhaul]

Well I met this gal off POF we had some amazing dates. We went to a movie Captain America with her I made the move by holding her hand, got the thumb rustle going, and then romantic petting. After the movie I got that kiss close. Then the next day we went out on date. Played pool flirty fun and excitement. (we both canceled dates with others after the first I found out later on 1 me her 2) She even had to reschedule later on in the day for me but she followed through with it. Then I made plans for her in the future. During that date while playing pool she made a joke that I get the right side of the bed if we go further. I took this as a hint to get this **** moving lol....

So she declined the plan to go to a theme park with me out here for our 3rd date. Then decided a movie date at her place wasn't gonna work even called me out on it. I made the whole Oh I dunno what would happen between us if we were together in private setting. LOL Then she dropped the worst thing you can hear as a man the friend word.... She said she liked me was sweet and all but thought we were rushing things TOO FAST. LOL I got upset with that **** and basically WALKED. Then my silly friends convinced me being friends was worth a try.

So I hit her up telling Ive changed my mind and that maybe she just needs to get to know me more. So I end up at her place right? Just as a lame friend... Oh my it was so boring, lame, and painful. (felt like a ****ing chore) Even told me on Easter her only female friend was gonna hook her up with a guy. (I shrugged this **** off) It wasn't fun for me no more... This gal wasn't the fun flirty, exciting, warm, and sexy woman I went out on dates with. She sat next to me watching a movie I made moves again but she put up her stupid friend barrier CRAP. Sat there telling me don't do this or that I was like thinking to myself? I put up with this **** on active duty military for four years I don't need a ***** telling me this. (still serving BTW but Guard now) So towards the end of our visit I was wanting to leave. Did so and left unhappy with the new arrangement.

So I took two days thinking about this and I realized I was happier with my life without her in it. I had to rid of this poisonous "friendship" I had with this idiot. I just told her its not working, its one sided, its no longer fun, and its pointless.

Then she was all butt hurt reacting telling me how great her orbiter the guy she dated before agreed with her to be her friend. Also that I made her feel like shes a waste of time... (which she was at that point) That idiot Mike cried like a little ***** when she told him she was dating me. The moron is 30 with a kid and dunno how to man up and help himself. He should have walked like I did but he helped her move and crap and is never gonna get **** from her. She was comparing me to this moron the whole time I met her it was unfair to me. Never gave me a chance as a new person! That fool confessed his love for her after dating a week. He needs to get his sorry ass on here or hang out with real dudes. I even told this gal to look up the term orbiter used in the dating world...

So yes the last ten days was quite a roller coaster LOL... Glad I got rid of that moron. I know most of you wouldn't have dated her (looks wise BBW) but I actually liked this woman. She dunno what she wants anyway she admitted this to me. Shes put two other guys on hold before it became something more she told me I was number three. This sicko just wants some puss wads she can walk all over. I STOOD MY GROUND FIRM... I just let her know why I didn't wanna be her pal. She has since changed her intentions on POF to looking for friends.

I just didn't wanna waste my time with some gal with so much uncertainty and it was a gamble with way too much effort and time. Wasn't worth it mind you shes 25 going on 26 im 27. I know what I want and I seek it. It is not my fault she allowed herself to be played abused and used. Damn you players out there

Oh well im talking to a new woman I met off Ok cupid now and she helped me with my Resume and I haven't even met her. So yeah plenty of women out there...

 

[jonhaul]

She wanted to go do the icecream **** after the movie I was tired I called it a night... but probably you're right. Being her ***** faggot was going to be way worse... But those pay sites suck even worse than than the free ones ive tried them. They're a waste of time and money...

 

[jonhaul]

Ive met these damaged women types before... They're dumb, weird, manipulative, and insecure. Stooges fall for the pillow talk and then when the dude bounces they're sad. Then when they meet new people they are putting up barriers and yeah damaged goods not my fault the fell for the players lol...

 

[jonhaul]

However she did admit that I kissed different and it was something we needed to work on. So that may have been a hit to her interest level for sure.

 

[Warrior74]

Word. BBW+friendzone = why do you even care to talk to her again, seriously? I had a bbw catfish me on POF, it was such a trainwreck of a date that I stuck around just for the lulz. But I knew from the moment I saw her that I was never gonna call that chic again. Do you feel that you can't attract better women?

 

[jonhaul]

Word. BBW+friendzone = why do you even care to talk to her again, seriously? I had a bbw catfish me on POF, it was such a trainwreck of a date that I stuck around just for the lulz. But I knew from the moment I saw her that I was never gonna call that chic again. Do you feel that you can't attract better women?

Its not that at all I am just open to dating them too but yes I can always do better Ive done it before. You're right though but I wasn't settling lol... I am a boob lover I think thats my problem LOL. :rockon: I don't mind a very full figured voluptuous gal but there are limits my friend that I have. Yeah they all seem to be train wreaks the chick i'm talking to now is way way more slim. Also that gal I turned the date down with she don't hate me and she even said if it don't work out she'd still gimme a shot. Shes in a relationship with someone for now but I do not wait for ANY WOMEN no woman is worth that.

Another thing I really like down to earth women not them high and mighty types. They really just turn me off... I like these sweet hearts too. No where near as picky as some men out there.

I don't need to talk to this creep again she can find some emasculated ***** whipped faggot like she wants. She had lots of men stand her up too I gave her two dates and more but it was all too much for her because of "her past" ****ing get over you dumb chicks.

 

[jonhaul]

I honestly made passes on this woman's profile many times only to find out I really did dig her when I met her oh well she wants things that I do not want. She even told me shortly after she met me that she layed naked on a bed next to a guy once and he asked her for sex and she wouldnt give it to him! LOL I found out later it was one of her Ex's she did that too cracked me up. Never had such a unique gal meet me and tell me off the wall **** and be so open. I loved her awkward weirdo stuff she said it was great...

 

[Warrior74]

Honestly, you sound a little messed up bro. If you like that sorta behavior, what does that say about you? It would turn me off and I would turn my back and walk away. I expect fat women to be pleasant and compliant or gone out of my presence. Actually I expect that from all women. A fatty with a crappy attitude is the worse.

When a woman tells me about the messed up stuff she does, it's just a red flag for me to move on. I don't think it's cute or hilarious. We aren't bros having a laugh over dating. She is auditioning for a role, interviewing for a job. It would be like going to an interview and talking about how drunk you get every night. Nobody is calling you back.

 

[jonhaul]

Honestly, you sound a little messed up bro. If you like that sorta behavior, what does that say about you? It would turn me off and I would turn my back and walk away. I expect fat women to be pleasant and compliant or gone out of my presence. Actually I expect that from all women. A fatty with a crappy attitude is the worse.

When a woman tells me about the messed up stuff she does, it's just a red flag for me to move on. I don't think it's cute or hilarious. We aren't bros having a laugh over dating. She is auditioning for a role, interviewing for a job. It would be like going to an interview and talking about how drunk you get every night. Nobody is calling you back.

Yeah I just found it awesome... Well I am unique myself too ive always befriend the weirdos as a kid too. You're right about that but yeah I just thought she was pretty cool. We had a lot in common too so I guess I was just too excited about this prospect.

Either way though im better off and come out on top here. If she found some sissy or got fed up because of ass holes like me not wanting to do the friend crap. Its a fairy tale world some of these people live in. Friends after a romantic start sure don't bode well either.

Probably should see this as a red flag when on a date with a gal but I enjoyed the time I spend with her on those dates so I stuck around till she pulled out the stops.

Heck that day before we met that night I had a revolver barrel blow up in my hand due to a squib in the barrel. (bullet caught in barrel) I walked away without a scratch then went on date with her later on that night. Just made me happy I wasn't dead or hurt really bad. The Gun smith said though its so well made that it was no surprise it caused me no harm.

What it boils down to is self respect and taking no disrespect from these women. I get turned off very easily once I am disrespected.

 

[DonGorgon]

lol.... females F on the first meeting if they like you ... always go for the F the first time !!! If you get close then try 1more time on the next meeting but if you fail ion he second meeting then drop her fast

 

[jonhaul]

lol.... females F on the first meeting if they like you ... always go for the F the first time !!! If you get close then try 1more time on the next meeting but if you fail ion he second meeting then drop her fast

HAha yeah the next morning she was asking me how I slept and ****. Totally into me...

 

[jonhaul]

Well fellas its nice to be back on here always have a place here to complain about my women problems other than facebook... LOL Lots of good sound advice to be had here I regret not coming here these past two years I feel like Ive been missing out.

Next time (well there wont be a next time, NEXT) if I am offered a lousy friendship I will walk for sure its what I usually do. Do men really like just being friends with a woman? Not really a lot of my rejects and chicks i'm not attracted to Ive befriended. What about you guys how much do you value female friendship other than using her as your wing woman?

Its a waste of time to be friends with a gal you actually like I cannot believe I did that to myself for two lousy days. The last thing she even said to me in a text was "Well then its settled you have your life and good luck. Sorry it was so horrible being my friend for two days." Indeed it was...

**** test or not I don't care for manipulative women. If you cant get what you want or be happy why keep her in your world right?

Oh yeah the gal I turned down a date for this one came back too she found out this guy she was all hoping to be in a relationship was a true DJ. So yeah I'll keep this one hovering in my friend zone for now and the other one for a little while...

 

[jonhaul]

Yeah there is that possibility still Ive had plenty of women come back to me after Ive walked. Yeah I have her completely blocked off she'd have to move mountains and **** to make a REAL effort in getting in touch with me. Many people tell me dude she will be back... I don't personally for see it I pissed her off by not wanting to do her moronic friend crap. She insulted me when she told me I was "childish" when I changed my mind and I got a reaction out of her I was surprised I thought she didn't like me. Like I said above she gave orbiting Mike props for hanging around after a rejection. You're absolutely right when I told her bye I should have just stuck with that. I blame my friends for making me rethink I was in the wrong and I should change my mind. (tried to be open minded) They all like to say I was my wife's friend and all the dumb stuff. I caved... I regret not falling through with my walking away in the first place. You're right I do have better options though. Way way better options than her from what Ive seen now.

A friend of mine even said I was not deserving to be her boy friend since I wasn't willing to be her friend. LOL He also mentioend how just being chicks friends and not caring what happens is the way to go.

I will remember to just not react if it occurs in the future and just walk like its not a huge problem to me.

She knows I am not looking for chick pals I even mentioned how I didn't get on POF to become her new guy friend. I sent her a big long message telling her WHY I didn't wanna do her bidding on Monday. She just said "oh so you delete my number yet stalk me on here? Why don't you just leave me alone. Im gonna block you bye" Which I haven't reached out since she hates my guts now... She wont come back dude... lol Noticed she put on there now looking for friends to hang out with not looking for commitment or relationship. So she did indeed learn something and switched her tactics. Stupid choice to seek friendship on POF if you ask me. She will keep running into those "double life people" she mentioned on her facebook she was tired of meeting. She can have her screw balls and wuss bags it what she digs.

 

[Zunder]

You should have told her you film BBW clips for Pornhub.

 

[jonhaul]

She also kept a friendly relationship with her ex's even though one cheated on her. (dunno about the other) Yeah... This one was a real winner...

Shes not worthy of my efforts, emotions, attention, time, or even thoughts. Not even worth filming Zunder because she don't even deserve such an honor.

Shes the idiot for not seeing a good thing when she had it...

She even complained to me how that Mike guy blew up her phone in the morning before our date that afternoon. (2nd date) She likes the drama I told her why not just get rid of him? She said I don't wanna be a *****.

Screw this idiot I hope she don't come back im better off without her. The gal im talking to now is helping me with my resume, cute, 23, she exercises, and seems pretty awesome.

Why should I worry about friendly issue drama queen? I was mistaken following what I thought was a good thing. The grass is greener... lol

 

[jonhaul]

You guys wanna know my standards? Must not have kids, be attractive to me, not bisexual, nor can she smoke. (wants to have kids someday too) I never waiver from those. They're not impossible to find either as they're out there.

 

[Big Nuts]

Date 3 you should have plugged her in both holes.

 

[VladPatton]

Rewind where it all went wrong:

Then my silly friends convinced me being friends was worth a try.


Stop listening to your chump friends and always trust your gut.

 

[backbreaker]

you know, if i have learned one thing in life at the age of 30. if you said backbreaker, in all your infinite wisdom, tell us the one thing that will make our lives better, lead us to the promise land backbreaker!

I would say this one thing; your friends, associates, counselors, do not know what the **** they are talking about and they aren't living your life.


I beat my head up against the wall for years in various things, trying to humble myself and take advice from people who had no comprehension of my life. I ran off a few girls becuase everyone told me that for me to stay clean I have to open up and talk about things that are bothering me. Then when the girls would go talk to other dudes, they would say "well tough luck dude" lol screw you lol.


your friends, do not know what the **** they are talking about. I barely listen to my wife lol. If your friends tell you to invest in Apple, buy Microsoft. If your friends tell you that a Ps4 is hot go get a xbox one. If your friends tell you tell you to invest your money go spend it. If your friends tell you to get married early, don't get married. Your friends have no ****ing clue what they are talking about.

 

[jonhaul]

Date 3 you should have plugged her in both holes.

It wasn't a date the 3 time it was her ***** whip friendship attempt for some dumb reason I agreed on. It was dumb and a poor choice on my part.

You guys are right my friends don't know my wants and needs what works for them may not work for me. There are no rules on how interactions on how men and women meet what they do or how they feel. Friendship with a chick you want is not a good way to go a about it unless you have no self respect and are looking for frustration.