What do you say? Seriously what?

Eternal_water

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The other day I was a reminder of how powerless I am in this game.

I was in a bar with a few friends and surrounded a groups of 2 or 3 girls with no guys around them.

I couldn;t approach as I had no idea what to say after Hi. Its so annoying seeing them there with no guys but not having anything to say.

Not that any of them looked particularly friendly/approachable but even if they had I would have just sat there.

And yet I know it can't be impossible because I am the only single guy I know.
So what the hell do you say?
 

VladPatton

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That happens to me too, don't worry about it. Sometimes you just don't feel it. Just try to enjoy the night and see where a few drinks takes you (and them). Don't force things, you'll just say awkward things. Keep cool and let it go if you are not tuned in that particular night.
 

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Yeah you just have to go do it. There's a billion conversation tips that one could give you but I don't believe it can be taught. The true conversationalist performs by intuition, the only way to get that is by conversing with people until it becomes natural. It also helps to have a life. If a dude lives in a box all day he won't have much to talk about with people.
 

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There are three secrets to being an interesting conversationalist.

Everyone knows the first two. Listen a lot and pursue your own interesting life. Not many people know the other one.

It's ok to be a little awkward. Especially at first. We ALL are sometimes, most of us are most of the time! The conversationalist can find a thread somewhere and follow it however.
 

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Eternal_water said:
The other day I was a reminder of how powerless I am in this game.

I was in a bar with a few friends and surrounded a groups of 2 or 3 girls with no guys around them.

I couldn;t approach as I had no idea what to say after Hi. Its so annoying seeing them there with no guys but not having anything to say.

Not that any of them looked particularly friendly/approachable but even if they had I would have just sat there.

And yet I know it can't be impossible because I am the only single guy I know.
So what the hell do you say?
The first thing I always do is look to see if any are wearing a ring. It's ridiculous how many married woman go to the bars I go to.

Most places I attend have their own house drinks that are popular.
Conversation starter right there!

Is this a sports bar/dive bar/restaurant bar. Many different topics to choose from.

Just be observant before approaching, what kind of drinks are they having? Is it a bar where chicks are drinking beers or are they having 'girly drinks'.

One night my buddy says ok go ask those broads 'What would you do for a Klondike bar? Yeah it failed, She says 'I don't like them', her friend laughed tho. She gave her friend a nice smirk too.

Same buddy of mine like to use: What's in your Trapper Keeper? Now keep in mind only chicks probably 30 & up would get this. It had a low success rate but worked a few times, where the broad started naming off all the band names and pictures she had on it. Blah blah....

Yeah so those are cheesy lines, I never really cared it was still all in good fun. You'd be surprised sometimes the cheesiest ones work.

Just go in and have fun, make them laugh and not worry about the outcome.
 

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I'm sure you have lived many years of talking and having conversations with other people. There is no reason why you should not have anything to say.

This problem lies with lack of confidence and knowing your own self. OWN who you are and OWN that what you say has value purely because it comes from you. Don't be scared to be judged by the things you are interested in or what makes a good conversation, because looking for the right thing to say is being the seller and not the buyer.

What you want to do instead is just offer just your presence and well being. Your own personality should attract the girl. Do not filter anything you want to say. Be happy with who you are and believe that its your reality, not hers.
 

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Eternal_water said:
The other day I was a reminder of how powerless I am in this game.

I was in a bar with a few friends and surrounded a groups of 2 or 3 girls with no guys around them.

I couldn;t approach as I had no idea what to say after Hi. Its so annoying seeing them there with no guys but not having anything to say.

Not that any of them looked particularly friendly/approachable but even if they had I would have just sat there.

And yet I know it can't be impossible because I am the only single guy I know.
So what the hell do you say?

do you make eye contact with any of them? do you pick up a vibe about the group? sometimes they close ranks and this suggests they are unnaproachable, and sometimes they are, look for signs, chinks, is there anyone casting glances around the room? on the periphery, not quite engaged in the group? rings or not, that doesnt mean you cant talk to them. how are they dressed? office/out from work? glammed up ready for anight out?
go in with a group comment or a comment to one of the women, somethign you have noriced about them, dont go in with something derogatroy, what you say need to create a response, good or bad eliminating something derogatory (neg) at this stage is better for your confidence, the neg stuff can come later.
i.e. if one of the women has lots of flesh on display, t1ts hanging out short skirt etc... give her a quick look up and down and say...nice shoes (with a grin).
its not the best line in the world, Im not sure if there is a best line in the world, thing is you need to open, too many guys get stck on the 'what do I say', IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER WHAT YOU SAY! providing she isnt insulted, is she is interested, she will respond positively, if she isnt she will brush you off and maybe make a little polite small talk but subtely let you know to go away, or she may think, hey that was cool, I quite like this guy, tease you back a bit.
the content of your words matters about only 10-15% of the interaction
 
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