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What do I do now? (Our dates...)

Santos

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This is quite long, but I'd appreciate it if some DJ's read it.

Ok, been out 4 times with this chick in two weeks, she has a BF she's been with for 11 months. This girl, as with every woman on the planet is confusing the crap outta me. She seems interested, but it seems like she's holding back.

I've said before that I like to learn as much about the women I'm with and our situation before moving on. I'm still learning and it seems a waste to next a chick if you can still date her for a while and earn some experience.

Anyway. Let's see about the dates (I know, way too much coffee :))

1st date: (1 week ago) Go out for coffee, take her home, invites me inside for more coffee. I was too boring although we had a lot to talk about.

2nd date: (Thursday night) We go have dinner (very tense) and then coffee at this other resturant, she invites me inside again. We start becoming more relaxed and joking around. VERY fun date. In fact she seems to hint that she wants me to come over to her place the next night.

3rd date: (Friday night) I go to her place to keep her company while she is shaparoning her younger sisters party. We spend most of the evening upstairs in her room, talking some more. Sex comes up once or twice and we start getting a bit more personal. Some kino at last as well.

At this point I'm thinking I'm friendzone, because she SAYS things like "Santos, you're a friend, let me ask you..." and introduces me as a friend to some ppl. But maybe this site has made the word FRIEND sitck out too much :)

So I think what the hell, lets ask her out Saturday night. Test her interest.

She has other plans (dinner with family), but says we can get together on Sunday night. She actually called me later on Saturday evening, after her dinner to ask me if I wanted to go to this one night club with her. I couldn't make it. But I took at as fairly high interest (mistake?).

4th date: She comes to my house to watch vids. This date was very akward. I knew I wanted to kino her and go for a kiss but I ended up not doing it, because I'm getting confusing signals.

She tells me on the way to my house that her BF wishes me happy birthday for Sat. Which means he knows about me, is cool with me, and she must have told him we're just friends. Right?

We have some verbal banter. Just playfuly neg-hitting each other, and I say to her playfully "Why you being so mean?", and she says "Don't you know when someone insults you, it means they like you."

Ok as a DJ, I should be looking at her ACTIONS rather than what she says, right? Cos' she drops hints that I'm "cute" and "I like you, Santos". "I had a great time", "I enjoy your company". But once or twice she's referred to the two of us as "friends".

But ignore WORDS, focus on ACTIONS. She invites me into her home after all our dates, she trys to cancel plans to be with me. She calls me that same night to ask me if I want to go clubbing with her. She's been talking to her best friend a lot about me. She refers to future activities we can do. She seems to like showing some flesh too :).

I don't understand, it's as if she is just waiting for me to make my move, but how the hell should I know if it's ok with the damn boyfriend in the picture. Sometimes I wonder if she's thinking "Com'on you stupid male, make your move already!" but I'm hesitant.

Ok, so what do I do? I figure if she really does like my company, and is interested that I shouldn't contact her this week. I'll just focus on other stuff. She will probablly call me on Sat. cos it's my birthday, if she wants to make plans should I tell her I'm busy? I think it's a good test, and will make her appreciate me.

Thanks for reading this far!
Santos
 

Jay26

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This might be stating the bleeding obvious, and indeed your probably in the friend zone already... but make a move and find out! Quit wasting your valuable time wondering! Life's too short, don't wait for her to kiss you, you could be waiting a very long time!!!

Like i said, the prospects aren't great, but what have you got to lose, unless you want to be her girlfriend, but who does?;)
 

Chemistry

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Walk and act with the mindset that any girl you're interested in likes you, then act as you would do if you had the knowledge that if you went for a kiss she'd oblige, and so on...

Avoids a whole lot of confusion.. how she reacts to the above are the real actions you read

The only qualm I have on here is the Saturday night thing, always use a Sunday night... it was quite fortunate that you didn't rush off with her to the club on the request
 

Chrispy

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Originally posted by Ashley Chuckles
Walk and act with the mindset that any girl you're interested in likes you, then act as you would do if you had the knowledge that if you went for a kiss she'd oblige, and so on...

Avoids a whole lot of confusion.. how she reacts to the above are the real actions you read

The only qualm I have on here is the Saturday night thing, always use a Sunday night... it was quite fortunate that you didn't rush off with her to the club on the request
What's the difference (Saturday vs Sunday night?)
 

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Santos my friend, what are you doing???? You just wrote a long post earlier about the same girl and we all told you to stay away and quit being so afc. However, but by writing this you are much more afc then i origanlly even thought. Please leave her alone, leave the board aone with this topic. I know its hard but you have to do it.
 

Lone_raider

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I only needed to read the first few sentences before I came up with my answer. She has a boyfriend!!!!!! This is a no go my friend, you can literally spend months or years of your life trying to pull a girl away from a boyfriend that in the end she will never leave. And the more you hang around her as a friend, the more that is what you are going to become, just a friend. Take it from me, I wasted nearly a year my Senior year of high school chasing a girl with a boyfriend, she never left him. I acted like such a horrific AFC I wish I could go back and beat myself senseless lol.

So my rule, "Girl has boyfriend, run away!". It is so hard sometimes but you just have to do it. The hottest girl I have ever known actually gave me her number without me asking this year at college. I went out with her a few times for 2 weeks, found out she still had a boyfriend and eventually severed all contact and have not talked with her since. I was funny, confident and used lots of kino, but I'm not dealing with this situation again. The last memory she has of me will be a fantastic one which she will never forget. Maybe one day I'll run into her again and she'll be single, or she call me one day when she has dropped the old boyfriend (as she is bold and called on her own a lot) . Untill then I'm moving on, it's a waste of time and energy.
 

Santos

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Originally posted by echo1212
Santos my friend, what are you doing???? You just wrote a long post earlier about the same girl and we all told you to stay away and quit being so afc. However, but by writing this you are much more afc then i origanlly even thought. Please leave her alone, leave the board aone with this topic. I know its hard but you have to do it.
Hey, I will do what you say, but please can you let me know what exactly makes me AFC - from the post? Constructive critisicm. It's obvious that if you all think I'm AFC, then so will the next woman I meet.

Thanks so much
Santos
 

felony

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You are acting AFC for a number of reasons, but the two that scream out at me are:

1. You are being far too available. (you've seen her 4 times in 1 week!!!)

2. You are not acting like a man. Quit messing around with interest level analysis and try kissing her.


Don't stress too much and make sure you are having fun.

Regards,
felony.
 
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