What a girl wants, I have figured it out!

ChunLi

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First off, I would like to thank everyone on this site. Without this site, I wouldn't have gotten together with my gf, whom I have been dating for 4 months now, at the exceptional circumstance where I met her. Anyways, since then, I have come to reflect on my interaction with various other ladies before and after I met my gf. I am sad to say that, although virtually every other woman in the world would disagree with me, we really have figured out what women want.

Before everyone starts disecting my post line by line, hear me out. After reading quite a few informative posts on this site, it has occured to me that everything on this site is dedicated to the fact that to pick up a lady means impressing a lady on the socializing scale. I have come to realize that it should be expanded to impressing a lady on her terms. "On her terms" probably sounds vague, so let me paint a clearer picture.

Every girl has a picture of the perfect guy, and this perfect guy is the product of all conscious and subconscious desires in a guy. There are two type of these desires, the ones that count and the ones that don't. The ones that count are the ones that matter the most and determine whether or not you actually score, the ones that don't are just things that make very little difference, they're "icing" or "decorations" if you will that doesn't you with their pressence, but at the same time, doesn't increase your value. For example, a few of the ones that count including being witty, very good at socializing, humourous, careful, is socially presentable, brilliant and have a sharp and quick mind. Some of the ones that don't is whether or not you do martial arts, do you smoke, do you drink, can you cook and what your hobbies are.

Of course, many will debate that there are too many of the ones that count and that their combinations vary too much. However, reality is very much against that arguement. With the exception of mentally retarded women and a case similar to Anne Frank being stuck in an attic with just one guy and thus having no other choice, all women socialize. Since the beginning of recorded history, everyone socializes when they are not working or spending time with their favourite hobbies. All women also hate being bored, because they are part of the human race and I doubt that anyone would argue with me that the human race absolutely hates being bored. So other then work, sitting on the toilet or doing whatever else their daily life requires them to do and aside from hobbies, they socialize. Socializing is the only thing that human race does outside of their hobbies and lifestyle requirements, such as sleeping, going to work, taking a crap, etc. Therefore, socializing is the only medium in which we humans communicate with each other. Therefore, it is only reasonable to conclude that any impression that a girl can form on you is based on your ability to socialize.

Now this brings us to the obvious question, what is the best way to socialize that will score you the most points. To answer this question recall that the human race hates being bored. However, before we proceed, we must note that being bored is the end result of everything being predictable. Predictability is the root of all boredom. Therefore, our next step forward would be to be unpredictable while socializing.

However, there are many different ways of being unpredictable while socializing. These can be separated into two parts, being socially pleasing and displeasing. Socially pleasing and displeasing are dependent upon the environment that you are in, so if you are in a Nazi bar, racism towards Jews would probably be considered as socially pleasing while being socially displeasing in a Jews bar(No racist remarks intended). Which will the lady choose? Socially pleasing to the environment that she often hangs out at. Why? Because if you are not socially pleasing to the ones where she hangs out at, then you will be considered an outcast and she might be outcasted along with you.

So now we have a more simplified answered, to pick up a lady, we must be unpredicably, socially pleasing, depending on the environment. Of course, our answer can undergo one further refinement. The question of how unpredictably, socially pleasing one can get. It is obvious that everyone wants the best thing they can get their hands on. The definition of "the best thing" is the thing that measures the highest on a list of criteria. Therefore, what all women want is the most unpredicatable and socially pleasing man that they can find.

Please feel free to rebuttal as warrented.

ChunLi
 

DankNuggs

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Like most things, there comes a point where there are dimishing returns. A very nice, but totally insane guy by your analysis will be top dog....

We are very complex individuals. I think most people see themselves as very complex (the question is whether they are perceived as complex, which is relative), and in return, they seek a mate with similar complexities. If you are easy to figure out, you are boring. acting AFC is boring because ITS WHAT EVERYONE DOES.

I'm not advocating becoming Goth or dying your hair green. Just to recognize that your complexities and individuality are what make you unique. Embrace them.

Those of you who see this site as a doctrine to act in a static, regimented fashion don't get it.

In reality it should be teaching how you can embrace elements of your personality you've repressed in an attempt to 'fit in.' That repression is your jailcell. Fear is the iron bars. Complacency is your warden.
 

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I don't believe the primary factor for women is to find a guy that's "socially pleasing". She wants to find a guy that turns her on.

Women feel gut level attraction to guys who do certain things (DJ bible) She doesn't think to herself logically, "oh, there's a jerk, he doesn't care about anyone or anything. Well, I guess I'll feel attracted to him." Instead, she feels an automatic response.

It's like a guy who sees a hot girl in lingerie. You can't help but be turned on.
 

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All of you make some great points.

But like everyone says, the mating game is just waaay to complex to sum up as just "attraction", being unpredictable or being socially adept.

If you look at the DNA structure of our make-up, we are discovering millions and millions of DNA code intricacies and comboninations.

If our DNA makeup so so complex, why would you expect to simplify our behavior with a few basic tenets.

We have pinpointed some things that all women want

Attraction (at the biological level)
Social Attractiveness
Status/Money
Values
Confidence, etc etc

But the overall driving factor that women rely on INITIALLY is her attraction level at her gut instinct/biology (just like men)

In essence, WHAT turns her on
 

ScrewIt

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well the fact that someone may be ssocially pleasing identifies that the person is:

outgoing

able to hold an humurous/smart conversation

social proof

important

able to survive, when in need this guy will speak aloud and
through this, thus proving he is resourceful even with his mouth and wit alone

you have connections

has respect for others and is respected
 

Genghis Juan

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I agree with DankNuggs. To describe what you must be in order to be a DJ would take much more than one post to describe. Its complex, which is why it is difficult to master and put into practice for beginners and intermediates (me). But it is not like an axiomatic doctrine that you follow robotically. It is more of a philosophy and lifestyle that is different from most men that best facilitates attracting women. Just being sociable is one component of the exhibited behaviors of a DJ, it is part of the foundation, but it is not a central requisite trait that will determine success or failure.
 

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Originally posted by ManOMan
All of you make some great points.

But like everyone says, the mating game is just waaay to complex to sum up as just "attraction", being unpredictable or being socially adept.

If you look at the DNA structure of our make-up, we are discovering millions and millions of DNA code intricacies and comboninations.

If our DNA makeup so so complex, why would you expect to simplify our behavior with a few basic tenets.

We have pinpointed some things that all women want

Attraction (at the biological level)
Social Attractiveness
Status/Money
Values
Confidence, etc etc

But the overall driving factor that women rely on INITIALLY is her attraction level at her gut instinct/biology (just like men)

In essence, WHAT turns her on
This is a great arguement, and yes, there is no way that I summarize the entire human genome by myself when hundreds of the worlds best Ph.ds, working in a team, is still in the process of finishing it. However, if you take a look at one's lifestyle, you will notice that practically everyone does the same thing if you use some rather abstract terms to describe and group them together. Then if we consider which of these activities are actually relevant to us, then we might not have to consider something as complicated as the human genome project.

So first we have the essential daily routine, such as sleeping, eating, going to toilet, etc. Then we have the optional essential daily routine, such as going to work, taking a shower, putting on clothing etc. Note that these things are all done in private, unless you are married with someone or have a roommate. Since none of these apply to us, there is nothing we can do in these activities, meaning that the same thing applies to our competition.

Whats left is personal time, which is split between hobbies and socializing. The definition of hobbies is a little more restrictive in the sense that you must actually be doing your hobby to be considered spending time on your hobby. For example, sitting on the bench when your team is up to bat in baseball game and chatting away with the guy next to you is not considered to be spending time on your hobby, going up to bat and swinging at the ball is actually considered to be spending time on your hobby. The only thing that is left is socializing.

Socially pleasing is also an abstract concept, why? Because the environment to be socially pleasing constantly changes, thus the rules that dictate whether or not you are socially pleasing constantly changes. For example, the rules that determine whether or not you are socially pleasing in a martial arts tournament, such as great sportsmanship, having amazing skill, being extremely fit, and dominating all of your competition with pure skill alone, is going to be completely different from the rules of say going to a girl's place or going to the bar. Thus being socially pleasing in one environment while being displeasing in another seriously hurts your chances.

Biological attraction is something that we guys can do nothing about. For example, if a girl likes a tall guy and you're short, there is nothing you can do about it. Certain things you can alter, such as getting slimmer when you look like a sumo wrestler. Fortunately, the things that we can't change isn't the only thing that determines whether or not she's going to dump or go out with you and there are many things that we can change to make us more biologically attractive. Status and money can make a difference, but only if it is a big difference, such as the difference between a high school drop out and Kobe Bryant. However, someone who is slightly above or below you in the social scale, such as you owning a place that is slightly bigger than your friend, isn't going to make that much of a difference because no one really gives a damn that you own a car with 401 hp while your local competitor owns a car with 400 hp.

Everything that a woman wants in a guy is all based on being socially pleasing in all the environments that she is in dictated by her lifestyle. Being socially pleasing in different environments makes you attractive to various degrees in a woman's eyes depending on the environment you are socially pleasing in. Confidence, values, humourous, etc. are all by products or requirements when attempting to be socially pleasing.

ChunLi
 

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Originally posted by Genghis Juan
I agree with DankNuggs. To describe what you must be in order to be a DJ would take much more than one post to describe. Its complex, which is why it is difficult to master and put into practice for beginners and intermediates (me). But it is not like an axiomatic doctrine that you follow robotically. It is more of a philosophy and lifestyle that is different from most men that best facilitates attracting women. Just being sociable is one component of the exhibited behaviors of a DJ, it is part of the foundation, but it is not a central requisite trait that will determine success or failure.
Definitely, to describe the perfect DJ, you would probably need a whole encyclopedia to describe everything down to the most minute detail. However, using abstract terms to group things together makes things a lot easier. You can't follow something abstract robotically because it is too complex to do so. The term socially pleasing might have been misleading. What I meant by being socially pleasing was being pleasing in all environments that a lady appears in, whether its her place, your place, the bar or at work, which have different sets of rules to determine how socially pleasing a guy is.

ChunLi
 
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