Weirdest first date

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So went on a date with this girl, went pretty good most of the time, made her laugh and did some kino. However, about 20 minutes before we parted ways she turned extremely cold, to the point that it looked like she was getting annoyed. Didn't smile or laugh anymore, started looking away, didn't talk as much etc.

I didn't want to kiss her at the end because it seemed like she was completely turned off, but I figured I should give her a hug. So I spread my arms and she hugs me tight around my waist and puts her head my chest, then starts to rub my back and in return I grab her ass. It took me by surprise because it was quite affectionate. Many girls have given me mixed signals in the past, but in this case it was a bit extreme.

What do you make of this? She's only 18, never had a boyfriend and I'm having a hard time figuring out girls at that age...

 

[blind_one]

I didn't want to kiss her at the end

In my opinion you should try to go for it mid date when the opportunity arises.
If there was a good base to it with good kino I dont see why not. I think she might have turned a little cold is because you did not escalate. She liked you and you did not act upon it.

then starts to rub my back

I had that recently when I lead the HB to the beach after we had a drink. Went for the kiss instantly and she was all over me . If does something physical like that it is a major green light.

So if there will be a next date which is 50/50, you need to escalate or you will lose her if you have not already.

 

[marmel75]

Probably was annoyed at your lack of escalation thinking to herself, "damn...not ANOTHER guy afraid to make a move..."

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Fool-proof first date recipe = Three Bar Bounce

Bar One:
-Cheap bar, buy her a drink, see if you want to take it any further than that. If there's some connection, you should already be touching her by the half hour mark. If there's awkwardness or clearly no chemistry, maybe string it out for an hour, then exit.

Bar Two:
Slightly better than bar one. It's her round ideally. Needs intimate secluded seating (side by side). Escalate. You should have at least made out by the time you leave bar two.

Bar three:
A formality really. Do more of the same. Escalate to heavy petting, groping.

Whole process lasts between two-three hours, max. You should definitely be kissing by middle of date one though.

Date two, more of the same; try to get her home with you - if she's gone on a second date, she's definitely thinking about fcking you; it's yours to lose now. Date three, invite her to your place. If you haven't done the deed by this point, either she's a prude or you're doing something drastically wrong.

 

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Always at least try to kiss her.

Granted, when women really like you, they don't care if you don't kiss her right away. It's likely that if she has a crush on you, and you didn't make a move, that she'll blame herself when she gets home rather than you. However, if she's on the fence about you, or you continue to act passively, she'll ditch you.

I like TheMonkeyKing's idea. I think you should always move a woman from location A to location B regardless of whether or not they're bars (I think I've read that the more venues new acquaintances explore together, the deeper their connection feels). If you're fortunate enough to live in an area where you can walk from bar to bar (or wherever you're going), kiss her while you're walking to the new spot. Just slow down, say "hey," gently grab her face and kiss her. You've been expending energy walking so maybe your nerves will be cooled a bit.

Try to put less focus on the outcome though. If she's on a date with you, or just hanging out one-on-one for the first time (even if she says that she wants to take it slow/be friends first/etc) just kiss her. Get into the mentality that you cannot lose when you make a move. I have never, ever, regretted going in for a kiss. I've been slapped, I've had drinks thrown at me, whatever... those are stories I tell my buddies over a round of drinks. But every date I've been on, where I didn't kiss the girl, I've over-analyzed and thought about constantly. Hell, if I'm alone with a woman and she isn't taken by a friend, I'll try to kiss her out of instinct.

 

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In my opinion you should try to go for it mid date when the opportunity arises.
If there was a good base to it with good kino I dont see why not. I think she might have turned a little cold is because you did not escalate. She liked you and you did not act upon it.


I had that recently when I lead the HB to the beach after we had a drink. Went for the kiss instantly and she was all over me . If does something physical like that it is a major green light.

So if there will be a next date which is 50/50, you need to escalate or you will lose her if you have not already.

Thanks, I've never kissed a girl during mid-date if it was our first date so..

Seems like the lack of escalation is what turned her off, but then again most of the time I don't go for the kiss until the second date and never had any problems with it.

 

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Always at least try to kiss her.

Granted, when women really like you, they don't care if you don't kiss her right away. It's likely that if she has a crush on you, and you didn't make a move, that she'll blame herself when she gets home rather than you. However, if she's on the fence about you, or you continue to act passively, she'll ditch you.

I like TheMonkeyKing's idea. I think you should always move a woman from location A to location B regardless of whether or not they're bars (I think I've read that the more venues new acquaintances explore together, the deeper their connection feels). If you're fortunate enough to live in an area where you can walk from bar to bar (or wherever you're going), kiss her while you're walking to the new spot. Just slow down, say "hey," gently grab her face and kiss her. You've been expending energy walking so maybe your nerves will be cooled a bit.

Try to put less focus on the outcome though. If she's on a date with you, or just hanging out one-on-one for the first time (even if she says that she wants to take it slow/be friends first/etc) just kiss her. Get into the mentality that you cannot lose when you make a move. I have never, ever, regretted going in for a kiss. I've been slapped, I've had drinks thrown at me, whatever... those are stories I tell my buddies over a round of drinks. But every date I've been on, where I didn't kiss the girl, I've over-analyzed and thought about constantly. Hell, if I'm alone with a woman and she isn't taken by a friend, I'll try to kiss her out of instinct.

I appreciate your imput, I'd follow your advice when it comes to future dates.

It's interesting though, because I've been hearing the exact opposite from gals when it comes to dating. A common complaint was that many guys rush things and move too fast. I thought that made sense and slowed things down a bit, but now after this date I may need to rethink my approach, or just get better with reading women.

 

[marmel75]

I appreciate your imput, I'd follow your advice when it comes to future dates.

It's interesting though, because I've been hearing the exact opposite from gals when it comes to dating. A common complaint was that many guys rush things and move too fast. I thought that made sense and slowed things down a bit, but now after this date I may need to rethink my approach, or just get better with reading women.

Once again, never pay attention to what women say, only what they do. Their words are meaningless.