We All Go Through It

[Bible_Belt]

I like dating girls in their early 20's who are hot young messes. There's one crashed out in my bed right now. Yes, I am being a provider at times, but these girls are so broke that having a vehicle, my own place, and $20 for fast food and some booze makes me look like Daddy Warbucks. I know paying for pvssy is wrong, but it's hard to argue when it only costs twenty bucks.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

AJ,

Don't look at it that way. You played her way more than she played you: you got a beautiful little boy out of this. I have some very wealthy clients who tell me they would literally do anything to be able to have their own child, so consider yourself very lucky in a way. That little boy is going to be the source of so much pride, happiness and joy in your life, he will make everything worth it I promise.

Just don't argue with the mom too much, even if she unleashes her drama on you eventually she will give up once she has no one to argue back with. Never feel guilty about giving money for your child, hopefully she isn't the kind of woman who will go blow it on drugs or nights out with her abusive drug addict boyfriends.

Her life is fvcked. The chances of her getting a decent catch of a boyfriend/husband with a child is almost zero. Your job now is to focus on work, on maintaining contact and a good relationship with your son, and keeping as little limited contact with your ex as you possibly can.

That's being very positive but I'm being realistic. I do agree my son is and who' will be my world.


Yea, she's not going to find someone as successful as me either Brad. Not too many people at 25 making as much as I do. But on the other hand she is gonna find someone to help her give her money. She is very attractive half back/half white girl. She will have no problem sucking someone else in. No doubt about that in my mind.


Tenacity that is a real thorough mind set. I think what you say has a lot of truth to it. I must see woman for what they truly are and now that I have a son I now have an excuse not to spend any more of my assets on females. I have a son to worry about and I never know for sure what he might need. Girls from now on to me is just pure entertainment. Cop a new chick, blow (leave) the old chick.

I'm gonna plan a trip to Brazil in December/January. Any guys wanna come with me?

 

[Tenacity]

I'm glad to be an 18 year old red piller. I won't let myself fall into these traps. Times have changed. I want a son in the future but not until I'm absolutely sure. I would hate to have a woman suck the money, and in effect, suck the life out of me. I used to have a dream of getting married, but what's the point?

Tenacity, I read your thread about the current market of women. It was on point. All I can say is that this site is LOADED with warnings. Be careful. Watch out for these games females play. Easier said than done.

I envy guys like you and Ruler lol, you guys are 17 - 18 and are gaining knowledge that MOST men at 50 still don't know about. My advice for you guys is to continue to hang out with guys 10 - 20 years older than you, it will help you avoid a lot of mistakes, help keep you centered in the right direction in life, and help you accelerate faster in life than we did.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Every minute I think about how crazy she really was and how much more that I benefit now that I'm not with her. I'm saving so much money now that I don't have to worry about her and yes... This includes me paying her 800$ child support a month. I'm still coming away with more per month then before.

Good riddance to her. Even though we were together for two years the only things I can remember in the past year is arguments. Arguments about everything! Every little thing. Like she was a total drain on my life and now I can just be free. I can chill in my room after a long day of work without any nagging. Life is really about to beggin for me.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Banged a hb6 yesterday and currently talking to a hb8.5.

Things are about to look up!!!!!

 

[exhausted]

Every minute I think about how crazy she really was and how much more that I benefit now that I'm not with her. I'm saving so much money now that I don't have to worry about her and yes... This includes me paying her 800$ child support a month. I'm still coming away with more per month then before.

Good riddance to her. Even though we were together for two years the only things I can remember in the past year is arguments. Arguments about everything! Every little thing. Like she was a total drain on my life and now I can just be free. I can chill in my room after a long day of work without any nagging. Life is really about to beggin for me.

Exactly friend. Remember how miserable she made you feel all the time. Mine did the same, I found myself holding the phone out looking at it in disbelief half the time just confused what I was being yelled at for or in trouble for this time. What a waste of time and money, these girls are truly ****ing crazy. A woman who has you spend and waste that much money is pretty much stealing from you. Good riddance.

 

[Prime_Beef]

1. She was a smoker, club goer. Smokers r 8x likely to bang one night stands if I remember the study correct. Not a woman you want to wife up or keep in house. Infidelity statistics for smokers not good either. For fun only. Impulse personality.
2. Get a DNA test in your son. Seriously. Don't know what your girl was doing at home all that time alone. Some states the clock is ticking. You don't want to doubt your relationship with your son, and you don't want to pay support if you don't have to.
3. You PAY WHAT THE STATE SAYS for child support. Keep every canceled check. Every. An agreement between the two of you is pretty much useless. The state may say you don't pay enough and have balance due. She will turn on you if in her interest. An attorney can guide you.
4. Never, ever get violent, especially with a woman. You will lose all custody. If you can't manage that, find a third party way to exchange the kid.
5. Pic better women. She was incompatible at start. You should have walked early. Don't let scarcity guide you. She was a user from the start.

Best of luck
Prime_Beef

 

[Tenacity]

I agree with you guys in theory that he should have NEXT'ed her, but guys let's just be honest here for a minute?

95% of the market of women are fvcked up, there's going to be some glaring problem you are going to have to deal with on over 95% of the women you come across. She might have weight issues, personality issues, mental issues, financial issues, gold-digging issues, she might nag you to hell, she might just want to use you for money, she might be fickle as hell, etc., etc., etc.

That's 95% of the women you deal with because quite frankly, feminism and gynocentrism encourages this shyt.

So if you spend all day NEXT'ing chicks, guess what? Your dyck won't get wet and that's pretty much one of the only remaining benefits that you have with this market of women.

My recommendation isn't to spend all day NEXT'ing chicks unless she brings to the table some type of physical danger. Instead, USE HER for the benefits that she does provide at that particular moment, which is Sex and Companionship. The moment she starts to act an a.ss or her "fvcked up flaws" come to the table, then it's time to leave. Also make sure you are managing how much you are "putting out" in terms of finances and time, make sure you aren't paying her bills or doing anything that the Traditional Male would have done.

My solution is to become the Player, yes, become a "dog". Use them for as long as they are going to provide Sex and Companionship Benefits, the moment that shyt starts to dry up and she starts acting a fool....NOW replace her with another plate that currently is ready to provide you Sex and Companionship Benefits. Keep rotating like this for life. Some chicks might provide the benefits for one night, some for one month, some for 2 years.

This is why you NEVER want to get married or enter into a legal relationship with women of this market, you have absolutely NO IDEA when she is going to flip on you.

 

[Prime_Beef]

Tenacity,
I've seen your posts on occasion. While I recognize the validity of the pessimism, there's more to be done. I think your are pretty accurate, 90, 95% of women are a hot mess. ..then too. ..many men are as well. If you concentrate on being one of the top 10%, 5% of men, you will be privileged to fish from the best. If you are worth a couple million or more, have a career (not just a job) and are well educated, come across as stable, a bit of a leader, in somewhat decent shape, and are mildly interesting you will do fine. If decent women is what you seek and you are not there yet, keep working on it.

Water seeks it's own level and we tend to attract who we are, where we are, and when we are. Men need to think about that.

I used to be like you at your age. I was jaded, had an ex wife who used me, our kid, and the system at every chance. I wasn't ready for marriage at the time and I picked someone who was hot, partied well who thought of the whole thing g like I did. Eventually she made enough mistakes I was able to gain custody. I didn't remarry for 11 years. Dated a lot, racked up the numbers, banged 2, 3 and one case for a while 4 a day. At 36 I woke up, realized I was chasing the same types of poor quality women. I had amassed a small fortune in real estate, affording me some time to clear my head. (Believe me, the byches are jaded too)

I decided to qualify them. Made all the difference. I started meeting higher quality women. Big difference? I stopped f**king them all. If she didn't have a career, degree, house or other proveable investment, I was out. Any hint of drug abuse, use, alcoholism, out. Lies? Flaky? Gone. No text, phone games. She had to be attractive and decently dressed. Show up on a first date in birkinstocks or tennis shoes? Out. I refused to have sex with any women who didn't qualify. Why? I didn't want to get attached to anything that didn't meet the standard. Key point. Women would ask what's my ideal first date? I said to all who asked, it was to see if you deserve a second. I meant it. Soon enough I had better quality to bang if I chose. Friends would hook me up with higher quality material, knowing I had changed. When people know you only eat at or are always willing to eat at the discount buffet, thats where they take you. Little more than 6 months later I met the future Mrs. Beef. I also was willing to date out of my ethnicity.

Best of luck
Prime_Beef

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Very true. I got caught up trying to turn a girl with red flags and changing her to the person I want. I was able to do it but it caused many many arguments and in the end her true nature just showed up. At the end of the day, I like pretty bvtches and that's really what I need to get me out of this rut. I don't plan on being in a serious relationship again unless the chick is pretty much flawless. Even then I'm gonna take my time. It's funny just last week before all this I was dreaming about being single again and being happy. I guess my dream is about to come true.

When December comes and I'm off I'm going to address the whole child support matter. If I have to get another job for a month then put myself on child support then I will.

With me traveling for work though, I'm probably just going to have to get evicted from my house. I'm rarely there and the only reason I had it was for my son. I still have 12 months on my lease but don't wanna pay 1400$ a month for a big house I will rarely be in. Me and my ex were both on the lease. This is going to be the first bad thing on my credit :/

 

[Tenacity]

Prime Beef,

I've heard that before, but I just never understood the argument. Maybe you can elaborate on this argument?

Tenacity,
......I think your are pretty accurate, 90, 95% of women are a hot mess. ..then too. ..many men are as well. If you concentrate on being one of the top 10%, 5% of men, you will be privileged to fish from the best.

Where are these super, duper, high quality women at? I keep hearing this from people that are in opposition to my market analysis, but yet, nobody can direct me in general to where these high quality women are at?

If you are worth a couple million or more, have a career (not just a job) and are well educated, come across as stable, a bit of a leader, in somewhat decent shape, and are mildly interesting you will do fine. If decent women is what you seek and you are not there yet, keep working on it.

So you have to build a net worth of a couple million (which is over $2 million) before you qualify for the super, duper high quality woman? Okay, so I guess that only 1% of men in the country "qualify" for the super, duper high quality woman and the other 99% of them don't, because only 1% of men will EVER build a net worth of over $2 million. Everything else in terms of having a career, education, etc. is attainable.

Water seeks it's own level and we tend to attract who we are, where we are, and when we are. Men need to think about that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that majority of so called "men" today aren't pieces of crap as well, what I'm saying is that I keep hearing about this super, duper high quality woman that I need to "continue fixing myself up" to qualify for.

- Where are these women?

- What do they look like?

It's like this, a high school football player fully understands and sees the promotional ladder when it comes to football. You do well in high school to get a college scholarship, then you do well in college to get recruited into the NFL. The NFL is the super, duper, high quality GOAL in mind.

Why is it that I don't even SEE these super, duper high quality women, that I supposedly just don't qualify for? I would at least SEE them, right? I would at least KNOW where they usually hang out at, right? I would at least KNOW of a couple guy buddies that HAVE one, right?

Prime Beef I'll await your answers, but my analysis is that the market has shifted and changed. 95% of the women are fickle, disloyal, dishonest, manipulative, and (insert whatever major flaw here) due to feminism and gynocentrism.

The women AREN'T seeking to fix themselves so they can find the super, duper high quality man, they bring all of these fvcked up qualities TO the super, duper high quality man. How can someone say that AJ isn't the super, duper high quality man for example? Good looking guy, makes good money, has backbone, did the right thing, etc., and look at what he had to CHOOSE from.

The market is fvcked Prime Beef.......that's why I don't NEXT anymore. If I spent all day NEXT'ing then I wouldn't get any action. I have just concluded that ALL of these chicks are fvcked up, I have very low expectations when it comes to chicks, and my goal is to get the Sex/Companionship benefits from her while I can, before the chick FLIPS on me.

 

[Slickster]

This situation sucks AJ. I feel for ya. I agree with Brad you need to focus on your son more than anything. His world changed big time when they left. Make sure you are there for him bro.

 

[exhausted]

I agree. They are only interested in what you can offer them. My kids mom is a very expensive woman. She cost me a lot of money while I was with her. She pretty much owes money to everyone and there mom. Now she is her new boyfriends problem. He wanted her so badly, now he can have her and what comes with her. What's funny is today she was texting me and telling me that she only stays with him because she has no choice. She said she can't make it financially alone. I already told her I won't take her back when she asked earlier this year lol.

EXACTLY it is all about THEM.

 

[Prime_Beef]

Tenacity,
the couple million is definitely negotiable, but you have to remember ".. money and power to a woman are like beauty to a man.." M.Monroe. Lot of truth to that. If you are able to show you are dependable, more than above averge, able to take care of your responsibilities you become more attractive. More attractive you become as a quality man, the more women will compete for you. I suggest you look for women in primary education, possibly nursing, especially for children, fields such as these. Possibly engineering, computer programer..Understand though, you are looking for as woman who WANTS to be a wife and mother. If that scares you or you are not ready, you can certainly date and expand your circles for later. High power fields like law , sales managers, real estate, not good. Uneducated, no. You will have to find a balance between attraction and capability that works for you. Not all women are capable of being wives, and all attempts to make it so will be for naught. I found an Asian woman who was raised traditionally in the mountain west. Thought she was Hispanic when we first met. Again, you might have to expand your circle. good luck.

 

[Tenacity]

Prime Beef,

I discussed prior that all you can do as a Man is control how "attractive" you are, so yes, increasing your Looks, Personality and Money will all make you more attractive as I have been preaching before.

But what I have also been preaching is that being "attractive" is NOT going to increase the quality of your relationships with this market of women. They are majority all fvcked up and any woman you get into a serious relationship with, you are just going to have to deal with whatever major flaw they bring to the table.

- Just about every girl I date works in the nursing field.

- Women competing for you is fine, but again, I thought we were discussing this super, duper high quality woman? Where is she at? What does she look like?

I don't believe such woman exists, I believe every woman is going to bring SOME LEVEL of serious fvcked-up-ness to the table that you will have to deal with, such as:

- Having multiple kids already
- Having weight issues
- Having financial issues
- Being fickle
- Can't cook
- Having loyalty issues
- Bad personality/attitude
- A cheater
- A gold-digger/user/high maintenance

That's the market and that's what we have to deal with. There's no super, duper quality woman Prime Beef.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

This girl calls me up and asks me am I going to pay for day care for my son as well. So she wants me to pay her 800$ a month and on top of that pay day care as well.

What a ****ing gold digger.

 

[dustmuffin]

This girl calls me up and asks me am I going to pay for day care for my son as well. So she wants me to pay her 800$ a month and on top of that pay day care as well.

What a ****ing gold digger.

What did you tell her? No?

 

[Prime_Beef]

As suggested, get a lawyer. It's possible, and likely, anything you pay now may not be credited to you. It's common for support to also include 1/2 of extras like medical insurance and daycare.

 

[exhausted]

This girl calls me up and asks me am I going to pay for day care for my son as well. So she wants me to pay her 800$ a month and on top of that pay day care as well.

What a ****ing gold digger.

Daycare for what???? That women dont even work!!!

and NO the 800 goes into the daycare.

You need to get yourself a shady ass pissy ihatewomen lawyer who will go the extra mile for you.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I said HELL NO. Thats what that 800$. She then proceeded to try to argue with me. I then told her to accept it, take me to court, or give me custody of my son. She says she needs to put my son in Daycare so she can get a part time substitute teacher job... which pays ****.

This girl tries to argue with me over everything still when we aren't together. I pretty much have not talked to her in 3 days and she goes on a rant on how I don't care about my son because I haven't called or text her asking how my son was. I didn't know I had to text and call her everyday just to ask how my son is doing. I'm assuming he is doing good unless I hear otherwise.

Yes I think I need to hire an attorney. If I hire one and get papers for everything it can't be an argument on anything since everything is court ordered. I've been thinking about taking it one step further and trying to get custody of my son. This girl doesn't have a job and lives in a house with 5+ people with her mom and dysfunctional parents. Am I setting my son up for failure letting him live in Florida or do I need to fight for custody and have him in a stable home in Atlanta?