Ways to quickly gain comfort & rapport with younger girls

[ER!C L!VE]

Need some help from some older guys who have met resistance with a younger girl and managed to turn it around.

Alright, so I added this girl on Myspace. She's a HB18messican. She's got a tough exterior - Jersey Girl. I got her talking on the phone and the conversation was going smoothly. She was digging me. However, when she finally saw my photos she locked up. The first words out of her mouth were "You're old". She didn't know how old I was and we never talked about it before she saw my photos.

It was all downhill from there. For the next 5 minutes, I tried to bring her back into the conversation, but she just talked fluff. It was a nonversation. She started talking and playing with her dog and that's when I told her that "I'll let ya go, have a good night".

Has any older homies met younger girls who initially locked up when they found out their age and/or saw a photo of them?

How about just guys who could tell the girl didn't like your photos? Were you able to turn them around?

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Good input, thanks. Next time I'll work the friends/family angle.

One way I tried to unlock her was by asking if she had dated an older guy. She'd been with a 26yo guy, but didn't enjoy the experience. I switched topics quickly b/c I didn't want to be associated with her bad feelings towards that guy. I mentioned that I had younger girlfriends before who didn't care that I was older. This info did nothing for her.
Grr... just typing this bothers me. fvck. I wish I'd done stuff differently.. she's smokin' hot and has a super cute girlie voice.

I just spoke with a friend who talks with girls and gets them into him through quality conversation.

I shoulda talked with her alot more before I showed her my pix. I still wish I had something to counter her lock up. I can tell I won't be sleeping tonight b/c of this. fuck.

 

[legolas]

It seems to me that you and her have totally different intentions when it comes to this. maybe she wanted a relationship and you want just sex. In this case, she can't picture herself having a relationship with an older guy, while you can totally picture yourself having sex with such a young girl

Anyway, yeah you should have waited on the pic until you had built some kind of a counterargument in her head sinc eyou knew she was 18 but she didn't know your age. CR James has a nice report on this one but I don't think it is available anymore as it was a pre-Christmass deal he had going.

I would work the shallow angle and get her feeling guilty and immature, and also make her believe she made the wrong decision, but this is only to soften the "lock up" Then you have more work to do which I don't think you would want to do just to get some because then you'll end up leaving her after waxing her, and she'll get pissed. Only do the work if you think that she's worth it.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

"if you wind up talking to a woman who isn't interested because you're "too old", just move on... and don't let it distract you." - David DeAngelo

I found this today after doing research. I don't like this frame. There must be a way to quickly show value, create trust & comfort and attract a younger girl.

There are too many older stars like George Clooney and Brad Pitt who have younger girls wanting them. I know I don't look like them or have their social status and bank accounts, but that's not the point. My point is that the girls know these guys are older, but the age factor is entirely dismissed.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
Has any older homies met younger girls who initially locked up when they found out their age and/or saw a photo of them?

How about just guys who could tell the girl didn't like your photos? Were you able to turn them around?

Can't tell you how to work this case, but I have some suggestions:

Have some pics that shows how young you are: i.e. do not appear "tough", wear some light colored t-shirt.
Light pants, light shirt. The more darker colors you have, the older you seems I guess.
Long hair always makes a person look older!
Have some pics with a dog or a cat.
Take pics where they don't see much clearly of your face - just stand far from the camera.
Lie about your age - if you are not in LTR, it will make her feel better.

Look at Brad Pitt: he wears light colored clothes often, has a short hair cut and have light blond hair. Make him wear dark, die his hair make it longer - he will look liek he is 50.

...I have a similar but reversed problem: I look 10 years younger.
Thats even more inconvenient.

 

[legolas]

Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
"if you wind up talking to a woman who isn't interested because you're "too old", just move on... and don't let it distract you." - David DeAngelo

I found this today after doing research. I don't like this frame. There must be a way to quickly show value, create trust & comfort and attract a younger girl.

There are too many older stars like George Clooney and Brad Pitt who have younger girls wanting them. I know I don't look like them or have their social status and bank accounts, but that's not the point. My point is that the girls know these guys are older, but the age factor is entirely dismissed.

Of course there is!!

You have to have something special going for you like be a DJ (Disc Jockey) or a singer in a band.

Or you can use their innatecuriosity to your favor. If you combine this with the signal of them proving themsevles to you, you might have a powerful formula.

Here's what you can try:

"Did you know that 90% of girls have no idea how to turn guys on? And by the way this isn't what you think. And by the way wearing pretty clothes, or makeup is only like 5% of it. In most cases even guys themselved don't know it. But it's really a simple method and it's really easy to learn. It's called the _________ technique. Some girls eventually figure this out by themselves, but usually it happens when they're in their 30s"

Come up with a cool sounding name but don't tell her the details, she has to meet you for you to teach her.

Then teach her something cool whatever you can think of, but you'll have her there which is the important part.

I told this one chick via facebook she's an AW (attentionhoe) and she bugged me for two weeks asking me what's AW mean? Until I met her in person, I know her already, and the very first words out of her mouth were "Hey, So what's AW mean?" I had to lie and tell her "Ass Whopper" and then she stopped bugging me, but this is a clear testament of their crazed curiosity.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Alright, I've been researching this more. I think this girl was giving me a bit of a shyt test. I could have told her, "stop playing with your dog". or just said something like "I'll let ya play with your dog, we can talk when you're less distracted. I'll call you another time". The possibilities are endless. I can't wait for the next time a girl multi tasks while talking with me on the phone. Grrrrrrr.



Original post from www.arizonapua.com :
shanghai
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:00 pm

Post subject: Phone Game made Easy

This is essentially my phone game.

I do three things with girls whether I am in a relationship or just phone gam-ing them.

1) Multitask them.
Have you ever been talking to a girl and she is watching TV, playing with her dog or the worst, talking to her friends?

I do that.

Yesterday I was talking to a girl and she said "What's that sound?" I said "I am brushing my teeth." I will also put her on speaker phone and wash the dishes. If she says "I'll call you back later..." I say "No it's cool." and I stop.

Se what I am doing here? She is working to keep my attention and I reward her for it, subtly.

2) "Out of the blue" conversation. (I use it 80% of the time.)

Here is an example:

RING...Her: "Hello?"

Me "Do you know that if you put a little olive oil in a pan and heat up some diced garlic and then put it in the pasta sauce at the last minute, it dosen't get bitter? This sauce is going to be F-ing scrumptious!"

Her: "What are you doing!?!"

Me: "I ran out of olive oil, what should I use as a substitue?"

Her: Blah Blah

Me: "Why did you call me?"

Her: "You called me!!"

Me: "You're cute. Remember those pajamas you said you got for christmas...etc...

You can talk normal now, the conversation is yours to steer.

3) Cut her off at the pass

Example:

Her: "So my sister was yelling at her husband and I said to her, you need to keep your politics to yourself blah, blah, blah..."

Me: "HEY....HB9,....You know what I am going to buy you?.....A big cowbell. Everytime some one talks about politics you can start banging it with a drum stick."

Her: LOL

Me: "You know what sounds good?.....Let's go get a delicious ****tail tonight at 8pm at "that place", I know you miss me. I have to go back to work...etc..."
_________________
"It is your work in life that is the ultimate seduction."
Pablo Picasso

 

[reyalp]

oh man, that is pure gold right there -----^


i especially liked the cowbell one

 

[mcqueen207]

Why do you want an 18 yr old anyways? She is barely out of adolescence. Save the barely legal for the porn sites.

'Nuff Said

 

[MrLuvr]

Or maybe we can come to the final realization that our days of banging 18 year old hotties are over and focus our attention on the hot girls in their mid 20s?

 

[ER!C L!VE]

I'll let you guys keep your frame of not wanting to bang hot young 18yo's as long as you stay out of my frame of wanting to bang them. AKA: Live and let live.

 

[mcqueen207]

No offence dude.

I have a buddy who's motto is: "...if she's old enough to cut her own food..." :woo:

It just seems to me that there are plenty of other opportunities that don't require fighting against that kind of resistance.

 

[john_1234]

Originally posted by MrLuvr
Or maybe we can come to the final realization that our days of banging 18 year old hotties are over and focus our attention on the hot girls in their mid 20s?

this is what i've been thinking about lately. when i cold approach girls who are barely legal, majority of them get turned off by my age. from my experiences, the only way to hook up w/ barely legal chicks is if they have a part time secretary/clerk type position at your work. you'll be able to warm them up over time. they tend to disregard the age issue if you play your cards right.

 

[MrLuvr]

Originally posted by john_1234
this is what i've been thinking about lately. when i cold approach girls who are barely legal, majority of them get turned off by my age. from my experiences, the only way to hook up w/ barely legal chicks is if they have a part time secretary/clerk type position at your work. you'll be able to warm them up over time. they tend to disregard the age issue if you play your cards right.

Yep, that is what I am saying. I think we have lost our competitive edge when it comes to THIS particular market.

Now, I am not making any moral judgements. Do, I want to bang hot 18 year olds? Hell Yeah! But, let us be realistic, the amount of time you spend trying to convince that barely legal chick to let you into her pants could be spent elsewhere on chicks that are more open to your advances. I think focusing on these 18 year olds is a oneitis in itself.

If I get a chance to bang an 18 yr old hottie and I can pull it off, I would definitely go for it. But, I am not going to make them the focus of my efforts.

So, in that way, I do agree with what David De Angelo has said, "Just move on - Don't let it distract you".

 

[GirlCrazy]

Seems to me that there's X amount of younger chicas that dig on older guys, and that's the pool that you have to draw from.

Maybe you might make progress on ones that are borderline on the subject, but I just don't see how you will build rapport those chicas who have no interest in older guys.

For the ones who aren't interested, it's like selling ice to eskimos. Yeah, maybe it can be done, but why not go after the "low hanging fruit" instead?

 

[insidious]

Originally posted by MrLuvr
...I think focusing on these 18 year olds is a oneitis in itself...

Seriously dude, you are SO right.

I take public trans to work and I'll tell you, there are tons of 18-24 yr old girls who get on and who do the EC thing and smile and yada yada. I am flattered if I can get a smile or a look, but I don't even give it a second thought.

The point is there is no use going out and make it an active pursuit of yours to bag some young chick. If it happens, it happens, but don't let it make or break your day.

If you have a fixation (and only you know it and will admit it), perhaps you should find out the roots of that little "addiction."

We all would love to hook up with a fresh 18 yr old broad and teach her how it's really done, but whatever, why even make it the centerpiece of your life?

 

[john_1234]

if you're as famous as jerry seinfeld you can easily pull it off. reminds me of when he dated an incredibly beautiful 18 year old when he was 39

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Here's some phone game from *shanghai at Project SF. I asked him about what to do when a girl starts locking up (being distracted and not into the conversation or not talking at all). His reply is just spectacular.



*shanghai
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:01 am
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ER!C L!VE wrote:
I had a girl last night start playing with her dog in the middle of the conversation and it pissed me off. I'm 32 and she's 18. I took it as her checking out of the conversation.



*shanghai wrote:
1) Multitask them.
Have you ever been talking to a girl and she is watching TV, playing with her dog or the worst, talking to her friends?
I do that.



LOL!, see? playing with her dog!

I do 2 things.

1) I don't try to get theit attention by yelling or talking. I shut up and wait until they are asking "Are you still there?"
I say "Huh, are you mulitasking me? That reminds me, I've got to run, call me in a little while when your not so distracted..."
Her: "No, it's OK, blah blah"
Me: "No really, call me later, your fun to talk too usually, but were both too busy right now...pick a time when you just want to talk to me and the dog is out...I do the same thing and it pisses girls off, I multi task them, it's a bad habit I've got to stop because it is SOOO disrespectful... call me later..." etc... CLICK

* If she promises not to ever mutitask you again, then you don't have to hang up, but then she will get mad in the future if you multitask her.

2) (My favorite) As soon as they check out of the conversation, I check out but WORSE. I put them on speaker phone and start tuning my guitar, washing dishes or running a bath. When they come back on the line I am doing something and probably noisily. It's funny because she wil say "Hey, what are you doing?" and hear all this noise. I yell across the room, "I am multitasking you!"

She will either get it or get upset. Either way, if the girl is ADD, you've got to show her that you are not a chump that will just sit around while she plays with you.

Don't get mad though.

I call them on their s%#t , but in a fun way, not directly. If you sound upset or angry it won't work. You have to be laid back.

*shanghai
_________________
"It is your work in life that is the ultimate seduction."
Pablo

 

[wunnaBsmooth]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
yea, well to the 30 something yr old men who have fetishes on preying on 18 yr old women over the internet...

I hope one of there dads breaks your face one of these days when u show up at the door to pick her up.


Oh wait..I bet you have her meet you somewhere..

infact im sure you never meet the parents..you probably, see her 2 or 3 times....hit and quit it.

then come to SS.net or other places and tell me how I am too inmature and young at age 23 to post her.



the internet is a strange place

Beside the fact that your grammer is so bad, it sounds like you don't get enough action to keep yourself occupied... So you're worried that some older-mature dude is going to snatch up on what MIGHT have been available for you? -----lol

If you've got better game you're in! You already have a leg up, you're closer to that age range.. So quit complaining online and go get 'em big boy!

 

[MrLuvr]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
yea, well to the 30 something yr old men who have fetishes on preying on 18 yr old women over the internet...

I hope one of there dads breaks your face one of these days when u show up at the door to pick her up.


Oh wait..I bet you have her meet you somewhere..

infact im sure you never meet the parents..you probably, see her 2 or 3 times....hit and quit it.

then come to SS.net or other places and tell me how I am too inmature and young at age 23 to post her.



the internet is a strange place

Who let this moron in here?

He can barely type one sentence straight.