Walking Away / Calling her bluff

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I've seen a few threads on this. If a girl starts to show low interest or has "doubts" just end it. Remember that you're the "prize" and that if she is going to reject you then it's going to be her mistake. Example:

I had a first date over drinks. Kiss closed, then we ended up back at her place for "a few minutes because I had to leave" and we hooked up for a bit.

Next day text:

HB: Hi. Don't get the wrong idea, I like you but I just got out of a relationship and I want to take things slow. Maybe we should hold off on our next date for a week or so.
Me: I totally agree - I didn't really think it would work anyway.
HB: Oh.
HB: What was it about me that you didn't like?
Me: Nothing particular. Just wasn't feeling it.
HB: Well what are you doing tomorrow maybe I can change your mind..

Total reversal - she was all over me on date 2. We banged on the next date and I've been dating her for a month (non-exclusive).

I'm not saying this will always work, but one of two things happens:

1. Her interest level skyrockets because her hamster wonders "Wow he really doesn't need me - is he seeing someone else? I need to up my game!"
2. She's out of your life and you're not spending brain cycles thinking about her.

Win-win!
 

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I think the hotter the girl, the bigger chance this would work, coz shes prob used too guys trippin if she acts like she did with you, you did the opposite so you stood out. yup its a win win, good work
 

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Sounds about right. It's hilarious watching women when you have the DJ mindset. You can more or less guess their reaction....


I had a good one a few weeks back. She had the cheek to ask me for a drink so I gave her a LOAD of **** on how I don't spend a penny on "little skanks". It was funny watching her facial impressions change from looking at me as though I was a doormat, to being sweetie eyed an innocent.

What makes me laugh the most is when a women talks about her "standards". How the f*ck can you have standards when you walk over someone who is nice to you, but look up to someone who treats you like sh1t.
 

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That was a nice play, dude. It was like watching Barry Sanders run the ball. "Wait. What's he doing? Holy sh!t. Touchdown!"

My move in this situation would have been something like, "Yeah I'm in the same boat. Definitely taking things slow." And then the next time we hung out, get her in bed anyway. Because girls only say sh!t like this to justify f**king you. Classic anti s1ut defense.

But seriously, i like the move of overtly calling her bluff. Either she walks away or she steps up her game.
 

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The spinning plates mentality DEFINITELY helps in this scenario. I now see how women feel when they have options and they can pick and choose.

Why am I going to waste my time on some chick giving me crap if I can just avoid her and get what I need from another one?
 

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Uncharted said:
I've seen a few threads on this. If a girl starts to show low interest or has "doubts" just end it. Remember that you're the "prize" and that if she is going to reject you then it's going to be her mistake. Example:

I had a first date over drinks. Kiss closed, then we ended up back at her place for "a few minutes because I had to leave" and we hooked up for a bit.

Next day text:

HB: Hi. Don't get the wrong idea, I like you but I just got out of a relationship and I want to take things slow. Maybe we should hold off on our next date for a week or so.
Me: I totally agree - I didn't really think it would work anyway.
HB: Oh.
HB: What was it about me that you didn't like?
Me: Nothing particular. Just wasn't feeling it.
HB: Well what are you doing tomorrow maybe I can change your mind..

Total reversal - she was all over me on date 2. We banged on the next date and I've been dating her for a month (non-exclusive).

I'm not saying this will always work, but one of two things happens:

1. Her interest level skyrockets because her hamster wonders "Wow he really doesn't need me - is he seeing someone else? I need to up my game!"
2. She's out of your life and you're not spending brain cycles thinking about her.

Win-win!
Well played my friend. Well played.
 

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This always doesn't work.

Pulled the walking away thing a couple months back. Dated this girl for 2 months and we were banging on the regular. She was very hot.

Went cold on me one day and said she didn't want a relationship. I said "me neither" and that was last I talked with her. We weren't that compatible to begin with. I defriended her on Facebook too and I NEVER HEARD from her again.

Now, our mutual friends said that she seemed like she was in a really bad funk for a couple weeks after we were over, so maybe I damaged her ego a bit, or maybe it was something else.

But whatever the case, she went away.
 

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expos said:
This always doesn't work.
What you fail to recognize is that it DID work. You stopped wasting time on a woman who had low interest. A woman with low interest is more likely to cheat, lie, and eventually stab you in the back. You got out before you became too attached and (from what I can gather from your limited post) you didn't go all AFC on her. Not to mention, you got commitment free sex from an attractive woman. Win-win on your side.
 

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expos said:
This always doesn't work.

Pulled the walking away thing a couple months back. Dated this girl for 2 months and we were banging on the regular. She was very hot.

Went cold on me one day and said she didn't want a relationship. I said "me neither" and that was last I talked with her. We weren't that compatible to begin with. I defriended her on Facebook too and I NEVER HEARD from her again.

Now, our mutual friends said that she seemed like she was in a really bad funk for a couple weeks after we were over, so maybe I damaged her ego a bit, or maybe it was something else.

But whatever the case, she went away.
As Mike just said, it worked just fine.

You're putting yourself in the position of saying to the girl, "Either step up, or walk off."

In the OP's example, it worked to help him get the girl. But even if the girl backed off, at least he's done dealing with her and can dedicate his time to other things.

The weak position is holding onto some low-interest prospect because you're desperate for love. There's strength in indifference.
 

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This is textbook game and I love it. As expos said, sometimes it can backfire but it's better to lose a flakey woman than to be left hanging for the lay.
Great job.
 

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Wish i read/understood this 4 months ago.

Well said and well played uncharted
 

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Yes that's a good point, OP. It definitely is "book" game (as in by-the-book) but it's that way for a reason... it works.

I've found that when a woman says anything along the lines of "I need a break," or "This isn't working out," or, "We should stop [doing whatever]," or anything negative like that, my best response has always been:

"I agree"

Always seems to stop them in their tracks.

It's like dealing with a sh*t test. Agree and amplify.
 
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HB: Hi. Don't get the wrong idea, I like you but I just got out of a relationship and I want to take things slow. Maybe we should hold off on our next date for a week or so.
That's fine, I have other options.

Incorporate it when any women give you that 'speech.' I bet my life on the success.
 

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BeDJ said:
That's fine, I have other options.

Incorporate it when any women give you that 'speech.' I bet my life on the success.
So do I. And the agree-and-amplify is great too! There was a thread a while back in the MM forum about a girl wanting to take things slow.

But this is a textbook success! Bear in mind that it worked since this girl had some interest in him. Indifference has no effect on a girl who already has zero interest in you.

As for me, I always call a woman's bluff. I'm not gonna pu$$y-foot around, I'm about my business.
 

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expos said:
This always doesn't work.

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Went cold on me one day and said she didn't want a relationship.

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But whatever the case, she went away.

It worked perfectly. A women with low (or lowering) interest was out of your life. It's possible she was already banging/chasing another guy. Sounds like it was inevitable.
 
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So do I. And the agree-and-amplify is great too! There was a thread a while back in the MM forum about a girl wanting to take things slow.

But this is a textbook success! Bear in mind that it worked since this girl had some interest in him. Indifference has no effect on a girl who already has zero interest in you.

As for me, I always call a woman's bluff. I'm not gonna pu$$y-foot around, I'm about my business.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the exchange in the OP. I just gave a hint to fast forward to the progress. He could have made her submit a lot sooner with the response I posted.
 

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^^^^^ ehhh... how much sooner is "a lot." Looks like he turned it around pretty damn fast. I think yours is too confrontational. Agree and amplify is like Aikido. You use her own momentum against her. Yours is more a "hard" style like karate. More in your face. Lots of times that'll just get you into a war.

I'm big into the Aikido method of relationship negotiation. You flip their momentum around on them.
 
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