Wake up time

[backbreaker]

my gosh what has happened here. i take periods where I don't visit this place and everytime I come back it gets worse and worse.

getting to the point, this isn't going to be long and drawn out, I don't have that much time, but my gosh guys, grow some.

I have no problem attracting women. I am good looking, I am successful, ambitious, in the best shape of my life (Actually training for the triathlon for next year... if I am in good enough shape by then is yet to be seen but I will give it my all).

A couple of random thoughts as why you guys have the same problems and aren't getting anywhere.

- simply put the easist way to attract a woman is to be a man who does what he wants. Rather it be a weightlifter, a successful business man or talking to that woman in a miniskirt and 6 inch pumps on the other side of the room.

- Write down what you do, every event, how long you did it, for a full week. See where your damn time is going. there are only 24 hours in a day. I became successful when I learned how to proritize things and leaverage time. Important things go to the top, no matter what (exercising, reading, making money). Successful people, with life or with women, understand and use this concept.

- If you invest half of the time you sit on aIM or myspace or watching TV or doing other crap in the gym or reading or learning about fashion or making a better life for yourself, the more sex you will get (FACT)

- since I made my "transformation" from AFC to DJ (or on a direct path to), i have seen this enough first hand to know... and it has been said before.. women will share a man that makes their pvssies wet than have a winning slob all to themselves.

- success with women is like hurricanes... there are either none, or they all seem to come at once. When I was off I was OFF. When I am on, it's like women are litearly knocking on my door looking to blow me.k

- having had a little success with my old company and having aquired a little bit of money, I can say that the "quality" of women you step up to when you have your **** together is unreal. Not to say I am in awe, but it's a big step up. Ever wonder who that 26 year old 8.5 at the gym that has a masters in Business is ****ing... probably me or someone like me. I haven 't had a real GF for almost a year and a half now, and in all honestly I am not in a hurry.. and I have gotten more ass in the last year probably than I have in the rest of my life. I cared about my GF and we are still cool..oh **** her BDay is tomorrow, need to give her a call.. anyway I wouldn't dare talk to her now.. not that she isn't attrative, because she is, but that's it.

- Want to know how to get revenge on that girl that sucked someones **** while she was talking to you? Forgive, forget and live well. AS well as possible. And don't live well just to get back at her so you can get another chance with her, live well so you don't have to worry about girls doing that to you again.

-DO NOT BACK DOWN FROM A WOMAN. I don't mean hit her, lol, but don't give in to her **** tests. Some of you are pushovers. Say what you mean, tactfully of course.

- The quickest way to know if you are in is to touch a woman. You can overcome hours, days or even months of wondering if she sees you "like that" if you just leave your hand on her elbow a second longer than you are supposed to, then lean over to tell her somethnig and leave your hand on her leg and see how she reacts.


i'm done

 

[Delta]

this is why posts like this completely miss the point on why boards like this exist:

- BILL GATES IS AN AFC. the wealthiest man in the world is an afc.

you can "be all you can be" and still strike out miserably with women. afcs can have more money than you, have more friends, maybe even be in better shape....

so again, i reintroduce my objection about general self improvement as being the answer to being successful with women.

being successful with women is a skill. being successful at OTHER SKILLS won't make you successful at getting women.

delta

 

[Docs]

this is why posts like this completely miss the point on why boards like this exist:

- BILL GATES IS AN AFC. the wealthiest man in the world is an afc.

Sure ok, he never said anything about Bill Gates. Secondly, who really cares if he's a AFC. His priority is a company, not sexing up women. There's a big big difference between him, where he's not focused on women, as compared to yourself. Don't try to compare apples and oranges.

you can "be all you can be" and still strike out miserably with women. afcs can have more money than you, have more friends, maybe even be in better shape....

That's life. You either get it, kinda get it or not at all when it comes to women. But, as I can easily tell from backbreaker, he's not only got his life sorted out (which, leads to more of..), he gets sex on a regular basis. Do you have life that sorted out, or get that much ass? If not, then don't knock organization.

so again, i reintroduce my objection about general self improvement as being the answer to being successful with women.

being successful with women is a skill. being successful at OTHER SKILLS won't make you successful at getting women.

This is correct, but having your life sorted out leads to a usual increase in success with the latter.

 

[sexy_kuta]

good point..

i tend to have something that i keep in mind and its my own personall guide line on HOW i want to be as a person.. not what i was told to be but what I desire to be..

"to self resepect, respect others

to suceed in life and achieve Goals to accomplish obstacles in all kind of situations, without ****ty shortcuts or beating around the bush, to learn to adapt your own personal self to become a better someone,
to live a for filling, loving life.
to learn and experience new things,

Learn to self motivate our own self and to become a better person"


until then i have alot to improve and do, i been to the gym at least 4-5 times a week since the beg of the summer now that im in the mind set.. i cannot skip days from the gym, im addicted to it.. and it has improved my overal health and mind set..

so put life as how u want to be, if theres something wrong. change it

if u want something, find it,

if u have a problem, fix it

we as humans have the ability to change and improve ourselves, we have the strength to overcome anything.. it all comes down to how BAD you want it and HOw much effort you are willing to put into it and time consuming

perfect example last night. i had a major break down of oneitis.. i litterly felt dizzy and developed a fever... i then stoped. closed my msn.. exited and turned my computer off.. put some snoop dogg and cleaned my room for 2 hours then did some **** in the house like fixing minor htings... and at the same i kept telling myself that im better than this.. this aint me.. i got more confidence. i never let a girl do me like that.." kept trying to motivate myself.. then i went to the gym.. at the end of the night i swear i felt the best of my life

 

[backbreaker]

this is why posts like this completely miss the point on why boards like this exist:

- BILL GATES IS AN AFC. the wealthiest man in the world is an afc.

you can "be all you can be" and still strike out miserably with women. afcs can have more money than you, have more friends, maybe even be in better shape....

so again, i reintroduce my objection about general self improvement as being the answer to being successful with women.

being successful with women is a skill. being successful at OTHER SKILLS won't make you successful at getting women.

delta

lol, so what exactly DO you propse?

"oh **** it, life's too damn hard, I'm not going to improve"

you ****ing loser, you don't improve to get women, you improve because you don't want to be 50 and wonder what the **** did I do with my life.

do something about it while you are young and still can get an errection.

**** bill gates. Yes bill gates is as AFC as they come. But what the **** does that have to do with this topic?

here is the deal. you have to plan your life like there aren't women in it. do things as if women aren't there and they will come. when I get up and swim, jog and ride a bike for 90 mintues every morning, the last thing on my mine is a peice of ass. when I read every day, i'm not trying to impress women. what motivates me more than anything is that when I die, I want to know I actually LIVED.

stop moping around like a little *****..t hat's why you can't get women to like you know. that's why men don't respect you.

- if you don't get up in the morning and want to rip your clothes off of you and **** yourself every morning, what int he world makes you tihnk you can say the "right thing" and get a woman to do the same.

- never put a woman in front of family. want to know what a woman really finds sexy. and it never fails either. when my little sister grows up I am going to have to get her a hell of a 16th birthday present, because she has gotten me more ass than any wingman could have. she's all of 6 (going on 25). She's my sister.. I practially raised her. well I am in florida now, but when I was back in arkansas, I lived about 1 mintue from her school and she always wanted to come see me, so Iw ould pick her up from school and take her out to mcdonalds and sit at home and watch TV with her,a nd sometimes she would spend the night with me. Girls would come over and see "that side" of me, the caring, I love my little sister like my daughter side and you could literarly smell them getting wet. I guess becuase they wanted me to treat them like that, or that it was even possible (trust me, I'm the farthest thing from an AFC you will ever see.. I'm not mean, disinterested is what describes me best coming from most women, and I open up around my little sister)

My mom. read my old posts to see what she did to me. Yet I am as respectful as I can be around my mom.. I'm a grown ass man and I still answer her yes maam, no maam. I don't curse around my mom, nor drink (although she knows I do), and I could, don't get me wrong, but that's disrespectful.

- develop hobbies. create a life as where you literarly dont' have time to **** around.

last... I think it was friday, no it coudn't have been.. around wednesday, anyway, there is this older bartender at my hotel I am at, the place I have pretty much made my residence.. it's a suite so it's like having an apartment for now. anyway, she's in her late 40's but you can tell she works out. real cool cat, a very interesting person. She has told me she found me attractive before and likewise. So on this day we had been flirting with each other lightly and she asks me what I want (to drink) and I say what I really want is date. So she pulls out her calender and we set up something for yesterday. So I go BACK to the bar Sunday the day before the date and she we talk and she makes her interest known.. she doesn't want to do anything "serious", so I tell her there is no reason to go on the date if there is no chance of anything happening, we are both wasting our time. And I found something more productive to do than going on a pointless date. all I wanted was a *******, at least from her and if I had no chance of getting it it's not worth it.

- for the love of god, learn to dress. What YOU probably consider style and what is actually stylish is probably two different things. Let me rephrase that. You have trendy cookie cutter clothes, than you have clothes that make panties drop. learn how to dress yourself in the latter.. Get a good expensive good watch (**** fossil watches, and anything along the line, if you want to get laid, trust me).. kenneth cole is okay I guess. Normally I wear a blackfaced submariner that I bought preowned (for the love of god spend the money for a good watch.. it's an investment). A watch and and a good pair of shoes will get you laid, if you don't take anything else from this post. know I am a watch freak so I have about 6 watches, but that's more of my everyday watch. Slacks, a nice shirt, button up or not, doesn't matter, depends on what look you are going for. I used to not be in BAD shape, but not great shape, so I wore alot of button ups, now I want tos how off as much of my body as possible so I wear some tighter polo's from time to time. I am not a necklace guy so I don't wear one. I have one small earring. nothing too fancy just an accessory.

- learn how to have good sex. I have had alot of practice, but, and flamed or not, you need to learn how to **** properly. get an escort if you have to but getting a girl attracted to you is one thing,b ut how would you feel if you get her attracted but everygirl you ****ed never came back? I am not the best ever but I can hold my own. I know a woman will never leave here not at least somewhat satisifed, usually more. I ****ed a girl about 3 weeks ago so good, (first date, went to eat, went somewhere else for drinks, back to my place, drinks, bed) she couldn't rub her legs together when she left because it burned. jerking it all day long isn't going to cut it. And I am not the most endowed person on earth, I'll be the first to tell you (I'm not the smallest either, but you get the point)


i'm out

 

[Delta]

docs,

the point he was making is that if you get your "sh1t" together (other aspects of your life, other skills) then chicks will just fall into place.

that's what i object to. and you agree.

i bring up bill gates as an example of someone who has his sh1t together but is still an afc. people don't come here to learn how to be a "great person" (tm)... people come here to figure out chicks. and it is DISINGENUOUS to suggest that if you do all this other stuff to make yourself a success, that success with women will follow.

bb, you speak as if we should not care about women... man, if that were true, none of us would be here. so as valid as your self help program may be, it simply does not address the concerns of people here.

it's like we came here to learn how to cook and you're trying to teach auto maintenance. you're saying screw the food, the important thing is auto maintenance!

but don't feel bad... you're definitely not alone. but i am countering the popular sosuave notion that if you become a man of significance, who can get out there and move mountains, success with women will just fall into place.

actually, it would be interesting to do a survey about significant men in history to see what percentage were afcs!

i am countering that and using an apt example - bill gates. see the point now?

delta

 

[Docs]

the point he was making is that if you get your "sh1t" together (other aspects of your life, other skills) then chicks will just fall into place.

i bring up bill gates as an example of someone who has his sh1t together but is still an afc.

You realize Bill Gates is married, yes?

And no, if you make yourself happy, should it all fall into place. Never, and I don't believe it should.

I do believe though, that if you have your life together, then it not only becomes easier to focus on women, but also, you learnt already that time spent on you is of infinitely more beneficial then to spend it on a woman. So, indirectly, you've already learnt a lot of the attitude required to keep a woman from bringing you down, or distracting you (or at least it should). That, and you have more time to work on life. ^^

 

[backbreaker]

lol, what makes you think bill gates has his **** together?

your problem isn't my post.. your problem is that you and I have a misunderstand on what "****" entitles.

Your finanices are one part of "****".

I do well for myself, yet I can pretty much promise you 90% of the womeN I get with get with me not becuase of money.

Looks
Personality
Knowledge
Finances

all of this breeds confidence.

if your circle is out of wack (one being bigger than the other, better yet, one being developed and the others arent) it doesn't work like it's supposed to.

let's say you are an ugly ****, you can't dress and you are out of shape. But you make about 200 grand a year, you are pretty smart and you are very funny. And you run into an hb 8 that is attracted to you. the entire time you are asking yourself is she really attracted t oy ou, or your bank account. when she goes out for GNO you will be wondering is she cheating to find someone better looking (all the while you could just become better looking yourself and be done with it, but that would be too simple)

let's say you look like a greek god, you do okay finanically (i.e bills get paid, you drive a modest car but you aren't donald trump) but you are as dumb as a box of rocks. What now?

Yeah you will get laid... you might even get laid alot. But long term relationships with anything but low self esteem women will be all but non exsistent.. while at least you are getting laid, which is better than most, it's short lived flings and no one takes you seriously. You don't bring a hell of alot to the table financially to make up for it either...

get where I am going. the more peices of the puzzle you put together, the more success you have.

Back to bill gates. Yes he is rich, but when you look at him, the word man isn't what comes to mind.. rich, yes. Manly no.

as a matter of fact, Steve Ballmer, who is the actual CEO of microsoft was voted the most datable of all of the executives at microsoft by the female employees.. him being not too far behind bill in the financial department and being a hell of alot better looking.

let me ask you this... where did bill gates even come into this equation? what does he have that you want so damn bad? An old hag for a wife? ****e if I were bill I would be pretty pisseda bout coming home to be honest iwth you.. I'm the richest soul on this planet and my wife isn't a supermodel and I have 3 damn brats to put up with.

 

[backbreaker]

**** I can run a company and be an AFC (hell I did, I wasn't what I am know until I got from under the company)

as a matter of fact, I would take it a step father to say that anyone THAT successful is a de facto AFC because you had no time to develop adquate social skills necessary to be successful with women.

career minded men are as AFC as they come, that's nothing new, but that's not what I am talking about.



pook made a post a couple of years ago about not having to work for women... some of you need to go back and read it. I mean, the more I put into myself, the more plates I spin, the more play I get. I never said I don't approach women, as that is who the game is played, don't misunderstand me. But it's like going bowling when they put thoose things that cover the gutters up so all kids can feel special becuase they all get strikes every other roll. I mean when you are looking at a woman from across the room who is litearly looking at you and blushing, what do you think will happen when you go talk to her.

However I know enough to know when I pass a woman's physical test before I go and talk to her, and I won't waste my time if I don't.. and hell sometimes I don't. I'm black. Sometimes I will look at a white or hispanic girl and she just doesn't like black guys. nothing I can do about it. it is what it is. maybe she is married and actually faithful. maybe she is on her period, I don't know nor do I beg to care.

 

[DarkLight]

^^^ Straight up.
... and Good Thread, Right on BB.

I totally agree w. getting yourself together, is where the focus should be (in regards to pulling women). Its so easy! What else is going to pull them?! A lopsided douche, out of shape from reading articles on game all day here?! Broke, still leaving w. moms, but knows 3thousand C/F lines!?

Nah... women want the man thats about it! That has passions, hobbies, friends, a life! Someone that actually is something!
And something GREAT!
So become great. Focus on yourself.

Reminds me of this short part of an Anais Nin book. (highly reccomend her books by the way. She was a 1930's french temptress, and wrote all about her sexual affairs, and being seduced, etc... great classic sh!t).

Anyways...s he wrote about stopping at a street light. And here this young man, comes racing down a hill as fast he could on this bike. She'd seen him riding this passionately before, and was now totally intrigued. He bombed this hill, then came up beside her. He looked at her, and smiled in wild delight. But the seduction of it was this... which she writes. (I'll paraphrase)..."It wasn't cause of he was smiling at me. Whether I was there or not, didn't matter. It was cause he was smiling at living his passions as a man. That is what instantly attracted me to this wild young man."

Anyways... Great Post BB.
I'll second the GL towards your Triathalon.

 

[ElChoclo]

Delta is right, being a success does not automatically get you women. Being married, in itself, is frequently a far cry from being successful with women or generally.

It is a good thing to work out, get money, be a social dynamo, but if people were coming here for that the site would be called sorich.com, sopumped.com.

 

[backbreaker]

looks like life has really beaten you guys up.

no one said rich. your problem is that you want to learn how to get girls, and becuase there is no quick antidote to take, you think it's worthless.

To get women you don't have to be loaded, but you must have a stable income and at least have some type of ambition on moving up if you are not there already.

To get women you don't have to be ripped, but try keeping the BF levels under 15ish percent for a start

You don't have to be Dave Chapelle or anything but learn how to make people smile.

and WHY IS THE ONLY THING YOU TO ****FACES ARE stuck on is MONEY?

That tells me your problem right there.. you are probably broke.

I laid out 4 different things.. looks, finances, personality, brains.

All OF THESE THREE HAVE AN EQUAL (OR DAMN NEAR) IMPORTANCES.

Stop blowing finances out of proprtion. No one said be a millionare, but you have to be able to bring something to the table.. it's not my fault the decisions you made when you were 18-24 are killing you financially now.. tough ****, and don't get mad at me becuase I understand at an early age that the harder I work now the easier life will be when I get older. BUT it's never too late to change. Make goals. My dad is knocking on 50 and gets more ass... young ass... than most guys here. He makes a good living, not rich, middle class living, good looking, stays in shape, is worst than me when it comes to clothes.. he isn't a genius but he isn't a box of rocks either. his best two assets are probably the way he looks (genetics baby ), and how he talks to people.


look. you have two choices. Frankly I don't care which one you choose. You can either look for the magic pill and wait for hot ass to fall in your lap, which you stuff your face with chips and burgers and **** you paid for with the money from your mediocore ass job and jerk off to porn all night long while waiting, only to look back on your life 15 years from now and say "where did It go"

OR

You can live life. That's all I do that most of you don't. I didn't hit the gym hard to get women.. honestly I had women before I hit the gym.. not this many and not the quanlity I have now, but I had them.. nice ones too.

I didn't make a good living for myself to get women. I did it becuase I like having nice ****, I like being able to live out of a 250 a night suite in a hotel like I am doing now and not care. I like nice cars, I like being able to see something I like and actually BUY it. I like knowing that I have a stable financial future. I like knowing that my grandmom doesn't have to bust her ass anymore because I can pay her bills and rent. I like knowing my little sisters college is already paid for.

I didn't pick up books to learn new words to impress women, I did it because I am STILL ambitious and I might want to get in politics at a later era in life. I did it becuase I like learning about history. I did it because I know it's more constructive (and really more fun if you find somehting you like) than watching TV all damn day long.

get where I am coming from?

 

[Docs]

Dave Chapelle

, I love that guy!
I'm rich biatch!!

 

[mrRuckus]

Ah yes, the weekly post telling us we all suck and how much better sosuave used to be.

Stunning observation.

Probably not even true.

 

[backbreaker]

first off, coming from someone who has been around here since mid 2002, the site isnt' BETTER. it's the same site. But the people back then honestly wanted to improve, wanted to get ahead, had drive and brought something to the table.

like I said, I could care less, you do what you want to do. I know what I was capable of doing once I put my mind to it, and a large part of it was honestly this forum (which is sole reason I even bother coming back)

 

[RedPill]

The fundamental problem this site suffers from is that there is an inverse relationship between success in reality and participation on these forums.

The trolls and extreme AFCs stand out a lot more because of their flagrant aversion to self-improvement. It's like traffic signals...you get green lights 50% of the time, but it seems like you spend most of your time sitting at red lights because sitting in traffic is irritating and grabs your attention.

If there's one correlation I've noticed since I've been here it's that the best posters don't make dozens of posts a week, and they disappear from time to time because they have a life offline.