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When a dog is chasing a cat, is it trying to eat it?
And when a dog is chasing a human is it trying to kill him? I just always wondered what would happen if the dog actually catches them....
 

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yea it depends on the dog. most dogs, (MOST), will only want to play with you if you are being chased. if you are close by a dog, never run from it unless it chases you first. most dogs that do not want to kill, will chase you because they think you are playing a game.

stay away from dobermans and pitbulls. i swear, its like they are possessed by demons or something. the first chance of human contact, they want to jump and rape you! but like i said, most dogs are not in it for the kill, so dont be scared (if thats where you intentions of this topic was headed for)
 

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PleasureKing said:
yea it depends on the dog. most dogs, (MOST), will only want to play with you if you are being chased. if you are close by a dog, never run from it unless it chases you first. most dogs that do not want to kill, will chase you because they think you are playing a game.

stay away from dobermans and pitbulls. i swear, its like they are possessed by demons or something. the first chance of human contact, they want to jump and rape you! but like i said, most dogs are not in it for the kill, so dont be scared (if thats where you intentions of this topic was headed for)
I always take a very defensive posture when confronted by a dog.
I take the same stance I would with human oppenant. I figure if I can beat a guy with a knife I can beat a dog.

Now, being in the jungle when a tiger or large ape passes by is just SCARY.
 

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
I always take a very defensive posture when confronted by a dog.
I take the same stance I would with human oppenant. I figure if I can beat a guy with a knife I can beat a dog.

Actually, an average human being looks a lot bigger and stronger than almost any dog, so why are we so much afraid by them? Why a Dobermann, a Pitbull or a Rottweiler is perceived as extremely dangerous by men?
 

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Adone said:
Actually, an average human being looks a lot bigger and stronger than almost any dog, so why are we so much afraid by them? Why a Dobermann, a Pitbull or a Rottweiler is perceived as extremely dangerous by men?
I think alot of it is their agility, jaw strength, and visible agression level.

I run outside alot and have had my share of scary moments.
And the closest I have ever come to crapping my pants in actual warfare was when a dog suprised me and jumped at my throat.

As long as you protect your vitals I think defeating one aggressive dog really isn't that difficult. Of course if it's a pack or he suprises you (it happens alot) then it might be more difficult.

I always figured I'd treat it like grappling a human oppenant and try to break necks and limbs while keeping a defensive posture on my throat and face.

A barking, snarling dog is a very intimmadating thing.
 

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Adone said:
Actually, an average human being looks a lot bigger and stronger than almost any dog, so why are we so much afraid by them? Why a Dobermann, a Pitbull or a Rottweiler is perceived as extremely dangerous by men?
Also, there is no negotiating with a dog. There's no "look, I'll be the bigger man and not fight" no,

"here just take the wallet and leave us alone." :)

Yea, usually I attempt to run if its a very small dog and its not that hard, but sometimes they're running as fast as a car and there's nothing you can do but stop. From what I read about the prey drive it seems like when a lab or greyhounds I just stand still and let it get bored (no point of running from a greyhound anyway huh?). But if a Pit or something chases me I'm assed out..
 

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
I think alot of it is their agility, jaw strength, and visible agression level.

I always figured I'd treat it like grappling a human oppenant and try to break necks and limbs while keeping a defensive posture on my throat and face.

A barking, snarling dog is a very intimmadating thing.
Maybe, I was also thinking of a projectile weapon like throw a rock. I learned in Biology that all animals fear a Man's ability to launch a projectile weapon. We are the only ones that can do this, the only animals that even come close to being able to throw are the apes and their hands/ standing posture is not designed to do it successfully.
 

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all animals fear a Man's ability to launch a projectile weapon.

lol, so do bullies. Throwing rocks is an effective defense in the schoolyard as well.
 

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That is a big ass dog.

I'm going to guess it might also relate to dogs and the whole 'territorial" deal
 

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KarmaSutra said:
My Hansel was a 235 pound Vom Eschenhagen Rottweiler with a 32 1/2 inch neck. Loved kids and my other dogs but if he smelled fear he was more dangerous than a 12 gauge shotgun.

12 years I had him and I miss him everyday.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p34/fraterkarma/scotthansel.jpg

Dude, that was not a dog, it was a horse:)

Anyway, I still can't understand why a man wouldn't be able to take down almost any dog (of course, I'm not taking in account freaks like KamaSutra's dog), even Rottweilers and Pitbulls, if the man is not intimidated.
 

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guys I've had all kinds of dogs and pitbulls, dobermanns etc aren't dangerous - it's how they're brought up...

I've never even seen a pitbull who's been violent towards people

the ones to watch out for are japanese akitas - I had one and they are naturally vicious :(
 

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You guys are assuming that a dog can win that fight. I hear about tonnes of dog / human fights, but how often is it that the human dies?
Our standard of losing in a fight with a dog is getting a whole heap of stitches. It could never win against a grown person, but it can tear a chunk out of your leg or arm before it's done.

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If it's just one angry dog, no matter how big, I'd probably just accept that I'm going to get afew stitches, and attack the dog. Just keep your hands in fists without fingers out and bash the sh1t out of its eyes...

Most of the danger with a single dog attacking some arbitrary person, is its initial impact. Imagine 150lbs hitting you in the chest at high speed. It's gunna knock you over. Once you're on the ground you're pretty well forced to protect your head and neck with your hands. So take away it's initial momentum(run at it, instead of it at you), and you've taken away its advantage.

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If it's a pack of angry dogs...Well...the intelligent thing to do would be to stand there, or slowly put something in between you and the dogs. I'm naturally a "take no b.s." type of person, so I might just kiss the cross I wear around my neck, and go tear the crap out of the biggest dog there.

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It's all speculative of course. I've been in my fair share of fights, and I know how fast things can go wrong, but the fight is generally awarded to the one with the most energy and aggression, not the biggest.
 

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BluEyes said:
You guys are assuming that a dog can win that fight. I hear about tonnes of dog / human fights, but how often is it that the human dies?
Our standard of losing in a fight with a dog is getting a whole heap of stitches. It could never win against a grown person, but it can tear a chunk out of your leg or arm before it's done.

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If it's just one angry dog, no matter how big, I'd probably just accept that I'm going to get afew stitches, and attack the dog. Just keep your hands in fists without fingers out and bash the sh1t out of its eyes...

Most of the danger with a single dog attacking some arbitrary person, is its initial impact. Imagine 150lbs hitting you in the chest at high speed. It's gunna knock you over. Once you're on the ground you're pretty well forced to protect your head and neck with your hands. So take away it's initial momentum(run at it, instead of it at you), and you've taken away its advantage.

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If it's a pack of angry dogs...Well...the intelligent thing to do would be to stand there, or slowly put something in between you and the dogs. I'm naturally a "take no b.s." type of person, so I might just kiss the cross I wear around my neck, and go tear the crap out of the biggest dog there.

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It's all speculative of course. I've been in my fair share of fights, and I know how fast things can go wrong, but the fight is generally awarded to the one with the most energy and aggression, not the biggest.

Very good post. Anyway, I was talking about pure strength. Meaning, if you or I were in front of a dog (Pitbull, German shepherd, Rottweiler or Dobermann) and had the balls to fight with him (imagine that a crazy psycho threatens us "if you don't kill him, i will kill you", we should be able to win, shouldn't we?!? The dog could only bite us and maybe scratch us, but we have fists, elbows, feet and knees to hurt him, plus they generally don't weigh as much as us.


Another important thing: if you see a pack of dogs coming to you and you know you won't be able to run away, would it be a clever thing to run towards them looking as big as you can (extending your arms outside for example) and screaming as loud as you can? When it's a single dog, he usually runs away pretty fast when you do this.
 

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my kickboxing instructor said his pitbull had a hold of another dog. So he just started kicking it in the head as hard as he could and it did nothing to the dog at all. He said the only thing you can do to make it let go, without putting your hands near its mouth. is to stick your finger up its a$$. I don't shake his hand anymore
 

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Also it matters where you are. Dogs are territorial. If you go near their territory and your arent familiar to the dog. You might just get eaten.
 
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