Understanding Fear

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Here's some background on where I'm coming from. I'm agnostic, I believe in evolution, I believe in science, and I don't believe in anthropomorphizing reality. In other words, applying human characteristics to the world around us. There is no god, no angels, no one watching after you except for some of the good natured people that know you and some helpful strangers. I believe it's okay to believe whatever helps you be successful in life so it doesn't matter if you believe differently than I do unless you believe **** that doesn't help you or the people around you.

Here's something I've thought up through meditation and some basic knowledge of neuro-linguistic programming.

Every thought, feeling, belief, and behavior you have/do has a positive intention for you. That is reality, that is not an opinion. Unless you're seriously mental ill (and I'm talking about CRAZY crazy, NOT bi-polar, ADD, Obsessive compulsive or whatever), everything you think and do is a result of you doing the best you can to get what you feel is best for you. If you’re doing something that you hate doing, stop hating it and find out how its benefiting you and solve that.

Now, here is where fear comes in. Fear is a result of evolution. If it didn't serve a purpose, it wouldn't be here. Fear has a positive intention for you. The positive intention it has is to protect you when you can't handle a situation.

What does “can’t handle a situation” mean? If you’re about to fight a 600 pound bear, logic isn’t going to help you unless you have some amazing martial arts skills or a weapon you’re confident with. You can’t logically handle the situation so you resort to your pre-installed backup system: FEAR

Fear gets your adrenaline running and it gets you thinking about whats important in these types of situations… Fight or Flight… Either you’re gonna slap that bear with those meat sticks you call arms or you’re gonna run to the nearest tree and realize what a great climber you are.

The point to recognize is that fear is a tool. You have absolute control over it. Everytime you’ve been afraid, it’s because you chose to be afraid. The only exception is when you develop a trigger.

A trigger is when you associate feelings with something. It could be a person, a thing, or a situation. Triggers can be broken but I’ll let you read an NLP book cause they’ll explain the process of breaking it better than I can..

Here’s the important question: Why are you choosing to be afraid in any given situation involving women?

Well lets remember why fear exists. Fear helps us when we feel we can’t handle a situation.

So is it that we can’t handle seducing women?

No. If you can have a conversation with your dog, you can have a conversation with a woman. There’s nothing physically different except your perception.

So now you can ask “but then why do I fear the situation if I can handle it?”

Ah, this is where you realize your beautifully brilliant and wonderfully stupid. You have an imagination…. The ability to perceive things that aren’t real. You imagine all kinds of things to convince yourself that you can’t handle approaching women in order to scare yourself out of doing it.

WHAT>?!?!?!? NO WAY!?!?!

YES FRIENDS… but why? WHY WHY WHY WHY

It doesn’t make sense, we want *****, we want affection, we want what women have to offer. If you didn’t you wouldn’t be on this forum…. So why is part of our minds working so hard to convince us not to approach?

The fact is that part of you doesn’t want to PURSUE women. Pursuing women involves rejection.

You might be thinking OH GREAT ANOTHER THREAD ON REJECTION, WHO FCKING CARES…. Well give me a sec, ADD boy.

Rejection is important for this simple reason. You as a human being have a goal to reproduce. It’s ingrained in you. It’s why you have a sex drive, which is one of the most powerful drives you have. The concept of rejection can cause problems in 2 ways that I know of…


1. You perceive rejection as a failure to reproduce and you don’t want to fail at reproducing so you don’t approach. This is a biproduct of a mentality that is motivated by moving-away-from-pain.

You’re gonna answer the question: “where do you want to eat?” with: “well I don’t want this or that and I don’t want blah blah blah.”

It’s okay, you’re not fcked up but you might want to experiment with thinking about what you actually want. And I’ll just say this… disappointment isn’t all that bad if you learn to deal with it in the right way.

2. Rejection hurts your feelings. Rejection makes you feel like you’re unworthy as a human being…. Like no girl likes you… like people are laughing at you… like there’s some special reason why she rejected you and it has something to do with how “bad” you are.

I’ve struggled with this one for a long time. This is a result of low self-esteem. Building up your self-esteem is like working out and building up your muscles… it takes time and effort and you can lose it if you let yourself go.

Having strong self-esteem involves a few things.
1. Make a commitment to stop beating yourself up. It’s just a behavior you devloped and you can replace it with something else if you find the positive intent behind it. Mine was that beating myself up helped guide me to be “cool” around people instead of jumping around and acting like a kid. The solution was for me to care about connecting with people instead of not caring and letting this behavior smooth the edges out.
2. Try to be aware of your feelings. This isn’t easy for most guys and they put it down maybe for that reason but its important. People who don’t understand their feelings end up lost. There’s 7 major positive emotions and 7 negative ones.

Faith
Love
Sex
Romance
Enthusiasm
Hope
Desire

Hate
Anger
Greed
Superstition
Fear
Revenge
Jealousy

Try to reframe yourself when you’re experiencing a negative emotion. Transiting into anger and then to sex seems easiest for me.

3. This one is gonna be weird for some of you. Regardless of whether or not you acknowledge it, part of your brain remembers being a little kid. You experience things sometimes as that little kid. A lot of guys hate that part of themselves. That’s wrong. That’s going to cause self-esteem issues. It’s better to see yourself as a parent and to imagine showing your “inner-child” how to handle situations and to …. How do I put this… you gotta love your inner-child… as if your own son… it sounds rediculous, but if it helps you get what you want, what do you care? Try it, give it a chance, you won’t be dissapointed.

The whole premise of this post is to understand that FEAR is a tool and if you’re using this tool against yourself, then you want to think about the positive intention behind that fear and what you can do to retain the positive intention while changing the behavior.

EDIT:
I almost forgot... ultimately, its believing that you can handle the situation you're in that you will overcome your fear.
 

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If you don't beleive in God you will always live in fear, because every living human and most animals on the Earth have the ability to kill you, God is the only one who can raise the dead, what is going to go through your mind if a man points a loaded shotgun at your head if you don't beleive in God, you will be full of fear because you will think that your whole person and being is going to be terminated forever, if you beleive in God then you have a future hope that you will continue on living in another place.
The 7 positive traits are mentioned in the Bible as being of God where as the 7 negative ones are of the Devil.
God created men with minds to go out and get what they desire, so that if those who don't beleive in God can acheive much more than those who do if they decide to use what He has given them and those who beleive in Him don't.
If God isn't real then this Earth is doomed, but if you desire to be with a hot babe and you beleive that you can have one you will have it regardless of your beleifs, this does not mean that God doesn't exist, it is just a part of His Universal Laws. :yes:
 

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god sucks. if you think believing in that bearded lady will raise you from the chains of fear, you my friend need help. fear is meant to be faced by you. there is no great divine spirit that is helping you through it. it is you and only you. like i said god stinks.

god ain't real and i guess the earth is doomed. i attained my babe through my great self. a couple of days ago i put the bible in the microwave. i must be damned
 

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insanity said:
god sucks. if you think believing in that bearded lady will raise you from the chains of fear, you my friend need help. fear is meant to be faced by you. there is no great divine spirit that is helping you through it. it is you and only you. like i said god stinks.

god ain't real and i guess the earth is doomed. i attained my babe through my great self. a couple of days ago i put the bible in the microwave. i must be damned
If you don't beleive in God you may as well put a bullet in your head, there is no future so why bother to live on, you are an idiot. :down:
 

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KoalaKing said:
If you don't beleive in God you may as well put a bullet in your head, there is no future so why bother to live on, you are an idiot. :down:
Depends on how you look at it. If you stopped believing in God, maybe you would live the rest of your life in fear of the world. However, for another person, it could give them the motivation to make the best out of their short time in life.
 

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I don't believe in God, and i dont live in fear of anything *shrug *

Also, i live in the present. Only morons live in the future.
 

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KoalaKing said:
If you don't beleive in God you may as well put a bullet in your head, there is no future so why bother to live on, you are an idiot. :down:
I hate simple-minded theists. Piss off, sh-tforbrains. I'll continue living for this life, you go on living for a future afterlife that's in your head.
 

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If you don't beleive in God you will always live in fear,
I dont beleve in any gods, and I dont live in fear

because every living human and most animals on the Earth have the ability to kill you,
And I have the ability to kill them, but I also have something else that they have. Its called SANITY. And it causes individuals to NOT constantly kill everyone they encounter

God is the only one who can raise the dead,
Which god please? there are only about a million of them, And BTW. Trained medical doctors raise the dead on a fairly regular basis

what is going to go through your mind if a man points a loaded shotgun at your head if you don't beleive in God,
I dont know, But when two pigs pointed a pair of loaded semi automatic pistols at my head, the question "what is going on here?" went through my mind.

you will be full of fear because you will think that your whole person and being is going to be terminated forever,
And I wasnt full of fear because it was so sudden and illogical that I couldn't even register that it was happening. It wasnt untill almost 2 weeks later that It dawned on me that the pigs were going to kill me. And I was so shocked by the horrors of the previous 2 weeks, that my own impending death seemed almost a relief

if you beleive in God then you have a future hope that you will continue on living in another place.
Again, Which god please?,

The 7 positive traits are mentioned in the Bible as being of God where as the 7 negative ones are of the Devil.
And these 14 traits are? please do tell because in all my readings of the bible, I have never encountered the list you are suggesting

God created men with minds to go out and get what they desire, so that if those who don't beleive in God can acheive much more than those who do if they decide to use what He has given them and those who beleive in Him don't.
No, Men (and women) have minds because they are hominids. The rest or your paragraph is jibberish

If God isn't real then this Earth is doomed, but if you desire to be with a hot babe and you beleive that you can have one you will have it regardless of your beleifs, this does not mean that God doesn't exist, it is just a part of His Universal Laws
This earth?. You mean there is another earth? In what way is it "doomed"?
Again more jibberish


If you don't beleive in God you may as well put a bullet in your head, there is no future so why bother to live on, you are an idiot
Why would I want to put a bullet in my head?, There is always a future, so why not live on? Sorry the only one posting idiotic claims is you,
 

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I dont know what I believe in, but I have faith. Even if god does not exist, believing is still a self fulfilling prophecy, maybe its just your subconcious, but I still like it, and having faith does make you stronger.
 

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Take the religious chat to some other forum. Believe, doesn't believe. That's his business.

I believe and I don't have to resort to calling people names and getting angry. That's the attitude of a terrorist. Be grown and let's move this forum back to what's it about. Improving yourself and not getting played by women.
 
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