turning make-out into sex

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A female friend of mine and I had a deal where her end of it is that she'd make out with me for fifteen minutes. She said she'd follow through with it tonight. Some friends are going to hang out here and have some drinks, and at the end of the night she's going to ask me to walk her home. She lives in a college dorm and I'm in a nearby apartment. (This is how we'll end up alone and get to make out).

Needless to say, I want this to turn into sex. I have some advantages here: she'll be kinda drunk (as will I), and we talk about sex all the time, so I know what she likes (being rough, biting, pulling her hair). Also, we made out a couple times before we really knew each other. (I wish I knew now what I didn't know then). My disadvantage is that we've been close friends for just over a year.

I'm thinking my strategy should be to have her so turned on that she doesn't care about the time limit because she wants to make out with me. From there I can move on to sex. Also, she is very insecure about her looks, so I'm going to keep saying how hot she looks tonight.

Any tips?
 

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I'm not going to give reasons why, but you need *ALOT* of work.
 

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No no.... there is something to salvage here. Make sure you have her in a sexual state all night. Tease her, bust her balls, Kino her FIRMLY (none of that pansy-ass, brushing against arm shyt - grab her ass, caress her waist, hold her by her arm, etc.), and at the end of the night, CAVEMAN her. Grab her hard - pin her roughly against a wall and French-kiss her. She should melt into a puddle, especially if she is drunk. There is potential for a lay right here, if you are manly and aggressive. The worst that can happen is that she politely says no ("what are you doing?"), and you can just say, "I'm being a man." and smile with a mischeiveous look. This will be your answer to this shyt-test. Then start making out with her furiously, pick her up and throw her into the bedroom. I'm sure you can figure out the rest.


Remember. CAVEMAN HER.
 

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jakethesnake gets the post of the day award. just a great post all around!
 

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I don't want any awards. This is just simple advice - these actions should come NATURALLY if you are confident with yourself, and your actions are congruent with your confidence. For me this shyt comes and goes, and I am trying to find a way to keep it all the time.
 

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STOP WATCHING MOVIES.
 

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I have many times turned a makeout session into something more. That's pretty much the way it always happens.
 

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Originally posted by Ricky
I have many times turned a makeout session into something more. That's pretty much the way it always happens.

Exactly. Someone should explain to tactic that that's just the movies imitating life, not life imitating movies.
 

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Thanks JakeThaSnake. I was considering the Caveman sort of thing, but wouldn't have been confident enough to do it without you advising it. It is damn important for me to be on my game tonight, because how often do you get this chance when you're in a girl's friend zone?
 

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Originally posted by jakethasnake
Exactly. Someone should explain to tactic that that's just the movies imitating life, not life imitating movies.
If you haven't experienced it before, and you mention it then it's definetly because you've seen it before. Not because you heard of it.
 

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Wow...thats umm...quite an intense website you've got there humiliator.
 

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Originally posted by tactic
If you haven't experienced it before, and you mention it then it's definetly because you've seen it before. Not because you heard of it.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, tactic. I've actually done this caveman thing before, I swear. Works like a charm. The key is to have her in a sexual state, though.
 
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I can confirm what jake is talking about.
It depends on the woman, of course, but I know more than one who just wanted me to take without asking.

humiliator--you need work, bro...
Don't think of it in those terms. No girl likes a guy that humps her leg like a dog. Think about it this way:

Sometimes a woman needs to be kissed. Sometimes a woman needs to be loved, sometimes she needs to be f*cked, sometimes she needs to be told to shut the **** up.
It's your place, your goal as a man to figure this out.

When you get with this girl, just give her what it is she needs (but don't ask her--she probably won't know anyway)
 

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Originally posted by IrReSiStIbLe
you needa fix you teeth up, man... URGENT!
Haha, read the FAQ :)

Disappointing news:

We didn't even make out tonight. Things didn't go my way from the start: she wasn't totally relaxed because she thought I was upset about the $40 she's owed me for about two weeks, and she can't pay me back until Monday. I told her I didn't care as long as I'm getting it in the near future, but this didn't make too much difference.

On top of this, and probably because of it, she wasn't taking to my kino. This was particularly bad, because that sort of thing usually happens any time alcohol is involved.

If that's not bad enough, she and the 1 other smoker in the group went outside to smoke, and they ended up having some long, heart-to-heart talk, so I could tell she definately wasn't in the mood to make out after that.

I got a chance to talk to her alone, and I was like, "Is this even happening tonight?" She said she didn't want to make out because she didn't think I'd be able to do it and still think of her as a friend. I assured her that this wasn't going to be a problem. She also said she didn't want to because I keep "pressuring" her to make out "EVERY" weekend.

In reality, this deal was made about a month ago, and I only asked her about it once last weekend and once this weekend. I HAD to ask her about it because she sure as hell wouldn't have offered, and I knew she'd try to get out of it. (In fact she did try to get out of it on a technicality).

She said that as long as I didn't ask her about it, we'd make out some time before winter break.

This **** was supposed to happen last weekend. Everything was going well - especially the kino. Then my friend kept making jokes about us having sex, and by "female logic" this meant to her that I'd probably tell my room mates about it when I got back from her place, so she called it off.

All this... and I could have been at a party with another girl, but didn't because I thought I'd be getting it on with my friend.
 

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That sucks humiliator. I hate it when women start to think too much. It normally means they aren't going to take action on something. It's their default choice.

If a girl has to think about something or about going somewhere, she'll probably not do it.

Really sucks.
 

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Humiliator - you can't "make a deal" with a woman to get physical. Unless she is a hooker. You have to put her in the mood. There is something wrong with your approach.
 

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Well, with this particular girl, I don't have many other options. When I met her I was a complete AFC (though I'm far from being a Don Juan right now) and got LJBF'd. The way things are happening in our social circle, I don't see her alone very much, and the chances of us being alone together while drunk is even less. (We agreed we'd only make out while wasted).

So the circumstances here are a bit different than with most girls.
 

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Christ. Trust me - you are still AFC. You are an aware AFC, which changes things, but not by much. The good thing is that you are actively trying to change things.


What you need to do now is find a girl outside your social circle, fvck her, then bring her into yours. This LJBF hoe of yours will see this, and hopefully it will incite feelings of jealousy in her (esp. if she is prettier).
 
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