Touchout's Goal: Get laid before college!

[Touchout]

Let's face it, this high school section of Sosuave has turned to complete crap and hasn't seen a great new thread since Contenders.

Now this thread is not going to unfold like Contender's did, because I'm starting in a much better position than he did. I'm not what we call AFC by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm a pretty good looking guy. I have many friends, including girls, and go out partying and having fun every weekend. I'm a pretty socially adjusted guy.

However, my big thing is that I've only had one girlfriend...ever, and I haven't had one since high school has started. Not only this, but I haven't even hooked up with a girl since high school has started either (little mouth kisses don't count). I feel like I've wasted four years of precious learning time that I have to make up in the next 5 months before college starts.

So, I'm going to keep a journal that tracks me towards my ultimate goal before college starts, to lose my v-card. I know, I know, everyone says losing your virginity isn't anything really special, but I feel like it would be a good goal to try to accomplish before I start a new life. For all I know, this could happen within the next 2 weeks, or I might take all 5 months, but no matter what at the end of it all I will be able to look back at my journey and appreciate my work.

I plan on reading Weapons of Mass Seduction (thanks for the idea Modro) as I move along through the weeks. I will update this with any sort of FR that comes up and at the end of the week to see how I did. I will keep weekly, monthly, and ultimate goals along the way and try to always accomplish something.

Oh, and I realize that this is going to get MUCH less traffic here in the High School section, but that's ok. I'm doing this for ME, not to be praised and have my ego stroked. Also, I feel like we should all try to restore the High School Section like back when Brazilian Blues Boy and other greats posted here.

 

[Touchout]

Week 1 Goals

In week 1 I want to move myself out of my comfort zone slowly. I have a HB7 prospect who I've been gaming for a while. I finally got her number on Friday, and I plan on calling it later tonight to set up a date for Thursday.

Also, I'm a senior in high school, and I still don't have a prom date, almost all the HB's from my school are taken, except for this one HB9 who seems to like me a lot (she doesn't have a date because she is really quiet.) If she doesn't want to go with me I'll ask one of the HB's from my work, either way I will have a prom date by the end of the week. I'll update later if anything happens with HB7.



Goals for Week 1

• Call up HB7 and set up date
• Get prom date
• Read and digest Section 1 of Weapons of Mass Seduction

I should be able to complete those three goals by the end of the week.

 

[Touchout]

Week 1 Day 1

I'm only going to do short updates unless I have a good FR to five, which today I don't. I do have a couple of interesting things which happened today though.

-I called HB7 last night, she didn't answer...(some of you may have seen my thread on the main section) Today in school she was ignoring me, but one time we caught eyes and she turned away. But when I looked at her I saw the downcast eyes and the smile, blatant IOI's.

-There's an HB8 from work who I flirted with hardcore for a while, then things cooled off. I feel like she definitely wants me, but I'm wary about her because she flaked on me once.


The amazing thing is, that in the past 5 or so days, I have shown more confidence than I even did before. I will probably start some cold approaches soon, next time I go to the mall.

 

[Bling]

I'm only going to do short updates unless I have a good FR to five, which today I don't. I do have a couple of interesting things which happened today though.

-I called HB7 last night, she didn't answer...(some of you may have seen my thread on the main section) Today in school she was ignoring me, but one time we caught eyes and she turned away. But when I looked at her I saw the downcast eyes and the smile, blatant IOI's.

I'm not going to be an *******, and I don't know the whole situation (didn't whatever thread you're talking about) but there's something that I've learned the hard way: IOI are bull****. The only somewhat sign of IOI is kino as far as I'm concerned. But the only true way to know if it's a IOI is to simply make a move. Which I see you're doing by asking her out. Don't make the mistake we all do. We all ASSume the girl likes us. Then we go make a move, and she's freaked out by us. We all see **** that isn't there. Our mind makes us think things that aren't there. Make a ****ing move is all I got to say.

 

[sca_p]

I agree with bling.

Also, I gotta say this: why are you so determined to lose your virginity before college? If all you want is casual sex, college is full of it--go to any party and if you pull your strings right it'll happen. A lot of guys suck at courting girls in high school, but once they get to college something clicks and they succeed.

Are you just looking for sex for the sake of sex? Then find some girl (there are a lot of these at college) who's into the same thing. It's less effort on your part and prevents some "good girl" from thinking something special was there when really it was all about the physical.

 

[Touchout]

I agree with bling.

Also, I gotta say this: why are you so determined to lose your virginity before college? If all you want is casual sex, college is full of it--go to any party and if you pull your strings right it'll happen. A lot of guys suck at courting girls in high school, but once they get to college something clicks and they succeed.

Are you just looking for sex for the sake of sex? Then find some girl (there are a lot of these at college) who's into the same thing. It's less effort on your part and prevents some "good girl" from thinking something special was there when really it was all about the physical.

Well, it isn't so much the sex, but my ability to get sex that I'm looking for. And your right, any AFC could get laid in college, it really isn't a big deal. My goal is to get to the point where my game gets me laid, not just alcohol and right place right time.

I'm not going to be an *******, and I don't know the whole situation (didn't whatever thread you're talking about) but there's something that I've learned the hard way: IOI are bull****. The only somewhat sign of IOI is kino as far as I'm concerned. But the only true way to know if it's a IOI is to simply make a move. Which I see you're doing by asking her out. Don't make the mistake we all do. We all ASSume the girl likes us. Then we go make a move, and she's freaked out by us. We all see **** that isn't there. Our mind makes us think things that aren't there. Make a ****ing move is all I got to say.

Well, i agree with about half your post. IOI's can be misleading, especially if your looking for them. At the same time though, I feel downcast eyes are a subconscious action, something which is hard to control. So even if this particular girl was an AW (which she's not) who gave out IOI's to everyone, I would look for subconscious ones like that.

As for don't assume the girl likes you, I have to disagree with you there. When you assume attraction, you are so much more confident and give out such a better vibe than the nervous AFC who is worrrying about if the girl likes him.

 

[Bling]

As for don't assume the girl likes you, I have to disagree with you there. When you assume attraction, you are so much more confident and give out such a better vibe than the nervous AFC who is worrrying about if the girl likes him.

Maybe we're all different. When I think girls like me, I tense up. Maybe subconciously I have a fear of success or something, but I do much better with girls that I don't care about and I think they don't care about me.

 

[Vypros]

But when I looked at her I saw the downcast eyes and the smile, blatant IOI's.

Just because there is a smile attached to it, doesn't make it an indicator of interest.

In fact, DOWNCAST eyes are a sign of DISINTEREST.

I wouldn't waste too much of my time on this one.

 

[champb]

I wouldn't worry about getting laid before you go to college in a few months. I would still try what becomes available, but college is the ultimate playground. I finished college about 5 years ago and I must say that it was much better than high school. It's a whole different ballgame. If you join a frat, it's so easy to get girls. Although some girls don't like those guys, many do. I was a RA (Resident Assistant - in charge of a particular floor in a dorm) for a little while in college and had the opportunity to work in the girls dorm. 200-300 females stayed in the dorm and I knew all of them and they knew me by name. It was fairly easy to get to know them since I was able to make small talk with many that came by each day when I worked.

The females tend to go wild in college since they are away from their parents and start to explore things. I know I strayed from your topic, but I just wanted to heighten your awareness of the great things to come in college. I would love to go back in time and do it all over. It's great being around females from all over the country, plus some of the exchange students aren't bad either. Just remember to go to any party you can and the rest should fall in place. If joining a frat is your cup of tea, the women will be automatic from the parties.

 

[Touchout]

Champb, like I said, I know it's very easy to get girls in college, but if I know I can get any girl I want in high school that makes things a lot easier.


Anyway, A LOT of things went down this long weekend. Brief recaps:

-Thursday involved a lot of venue changing, but eventually I ended up back at my house watching a movie with a girl. (No, I didn't reach my goal )

-Friday me and a few buds just went driving around town, talking to random people, nothing too special.

-Saturday was a bit more interesting. Over the past few months I've started to realize who my true friends are, and who pretends to be my friend when they want something. I've also learned that high school guys are extremely horny, and will screw over their friends at a chance to get a girl. So, keeping all this in mind I was just a complete drunk ass to anyone who bothered me, and I loved every second of it. I was party hopping with my friend (the DD) to places I wouldn't even normally go to, and finding out that once your at somebody's house they really won't kick you out. But, even though I talked with probably over 30 girls that night, I never got as much as a hook-up.


Recap of goals for Week 1:

Call up HB7 and get a date
I tried, she didn't pick up, I didn't bother to ring again. I will call her ONE more time, if she doesn't pick up I next her.

Get a prom date
Once again, I tried, the one girl I asked did not have a date, but she already was in a limo and gave a non-refundable deposit (legit excuse?) I actually am going to call up a girl later and ask her, so if something good happens I'll update.

Read and digest Section 1 of Weapons of Mass Seduction
Read it, still digesting it, but Senor Finger's is a true DJ.

Wow, I did ****ty on my goals, I have to do better next week, I'll update goals later, still not feeling that good because of hangover.

 

[Docs]

Flakes are not necessarily the end of the world. They can come back. You just dump it into your backend rotation.

Good job none the less, BUT, I think you should be focusing on becoming the social machine you want to be (the state of being able to open anyone you want and keep control), rather then 'I want sex'. Why? When you shift your end state from 'sex' to 'interaction', you will automatically gain social confidence, because now you aren't focused on getting the girl anymore. You're now focused on the interaction.

Why is that important? Because I live by this rule. If the girl wants to hang out with you again, you have done your job for the day. My focus every day is to get her to want to see me again. That will do you more good then some half-assed approach where now you have to chase her.

And, usually if she calls you up, and wants to push hanging out, it's a strong IOI.

 

[Touchout]

Wow, that was a lot easier than I thought it would be. I just called up this girl (HB8-ish) and asked her to go with me to prom. I called her, she didn't pick up (surprise surprise this always happens to me!) but surprisingly she called me back.

I actually forgot to mention it in my update, but I ran some of my best game on her yesterday. A little bit that stands out in my mind:

Touchout: So, out of all the people at our job, (she works with me) whose the coolest?
HB: (smiles) Definitely not you
Touchout: Wrong answer... (turns around)
HB: (grabs my shoulder) Just kidding!
Touchout: Awesome! (puts hand up for high five)
HB: (Slaps hand)
Touchout: Wow, that was a horrible high five (puts hand up again)
HB: (Slaps hand again)
Touchout: Ok, that was a little better, but your still not as good as (friend)
HB: (Puts hand back up)
Touchout: No, just face it, your not as good as her (rejects high five, smile, walks away)


Anyway, when it came to asking her to prom I didn't do anything DJ, I just straight up asked her.

Touchout: (picks up phone) Omg, you actually called me back for once...
HB: I was driving
Touchout: Ok, whatever. Listen, I'll just ask you straight up, do you wanna go to prom with me?
HB: Uhh, sure!
Touchout: Ok, cool, blah blah...

 

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Thank you mods for removing troll's posts

 

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Week 2 Goals

Flakes are not necessarily the end of the world. They can come back. You just dump it into your backend rotation.

Good job none the less, BUT, I think you should be focusing on becoming the social machine you want to be (the state of being able to open anyone you want and keep control), rather then 'I want sex'. Why? When you shift your end state from 'sex' to 'interaction', you will automatically gain social confidence, because now you aren't focused on getting the girl anymore. You're now focused on the interaction.

Why is that important? Because I live by this rule. If the girl wants to hang out with you again, you have done your job for the day. My focus every day is to get her to want to see me again. That will do you more good then some half-assed approach where now you have to chase her.

And, usually if she calls you up, and wants to push hanging out, it's a strong IOI.

This is a good post, the meaning I get from this post is to live in the moment and just have fun, which are definitely things I want to do. I will try to do this, but how did you transition your mind to that? Seems kinda hard.


Anyway, I'll post some week 2 goals for myself:

-Approach 5 random strangers, try to have a conversation

-Ask at least one girl for her number

-Read and digest Section 2 of Weapons of Mass Seduction

Once again, I'm trying to ease into this, this should be an easy week.

 

[Docs]

Constant failure, need to gain friends in a new city.

So, I started cold approach, and dropped the 'must have girlfriend' idea. Stupidly enough, it's hooking girls now when I'm not geared for the ultimate prize. I'm happy with walking away maybe with future contact details.

 

[Touchout]

Week 2 Update

Well I'm so confused about the HB7 I was talking about earlier in my thread. After I got her number she just went cold to me, it was weird. There are two possibilities I can think of

a) She got a boyfriend/ is very interested in someone else
b) She doesn't view me as a challenge anymore, so she lost interest.

I texted her today with a few questions/statements in a flirty way and her responses were all serious, it didn't seem like she was playing my game. So I just stopped texting her and she's moving to the bottom of my list, if she decides to initiate something she can move up. Any help with her?


But, I've noticed a change in myself over the past two weeks, I've become MUCH more confident, I don't take **** from anyone and people are starting to see that. Guys are treating me better, girls are flirting with me more, my life seems to be in good order.

I had a few flirty conversations today in school, but nothing too special to write about. And yesterday at the mall I did a "cold approach", I went up to a group of workers at A&E and asked them some questions (me and my friends were arguing about something stupid.) It was a three set with two guys and a girl (HB8) and I used Mystery's style of ignoring the HB and making friends with the guys.

I kept asking the guys questions, they would say something, then the girl would interrupt. This girl was giving me mad IOI's but I didn't do anything, and after about two minutes one of the guys just got sick of me and started acting like an azz. Overall it was a good experience, and something which I don't think I would have done a few months ago.

 

[Upthere]

Good to hear the progress. I would forget about HB7 and move on, just like you said.

Hopefully in a couple weeks I will have some success. I am already feeling more confident just like you. Havent seen other people react differently to me but this thread has given me more confidence that they will

 

[Touchout]

Well, I've kind of been regressing for the past few days. I realize now that I have oneitis for HB7, and although I'm doing my best to game other women, I just can't seem to forget about her and the fact that I let her slip away. I've just seemed kind of depressed about it, a couple people have asked me what's wrong, and although nothing is wrong I just can't bring myself up to that same energy level I had before.

I need to get it together and finish my goals for the week, unfortunately I only had a conversation with 2 strangers so far and I am yet to ask a girl for her number.

There's this HB9 I've been gaming for a while, the one I was originally going to ask to prom, who I wouldn't mind hanging out with, but she was absent from school everyday this week, if I see her over the weekend I will definitely ask for her number.

Other than that not much else to talk about, I will finish my goals by Sunday night.

 

[Touchout]

Update:

Oh wow, i feel soooo much better now that I found out she has a boyfriend (no sarcasm). I don't know why but it makes me feel like I didn't do anything wrong and sometime in the future I can still have that.

Anyway, just came back from a party early, getting drunker by the second, (stupid beer) and participated in a senior fashion show at my school tonight. I got really pumped from that because when my name was called a lot of people were cheering for me, (oh man I looked rediculous) big ego boost!

 

[Touchout]

I don't know what happened, but this entire week I just haven't felt like gaming any girls, I felt like I had other priorities (which I did) so i didn't actively try to progress with any girl.

I have just been ignoring HB7 since Friday, I haven't even looked at her except for one time when I just felt her eyes burning a hole in me. Screw her, I don't need her, if she wants something from me she can initiate. I'm going to try and pick up HB9's number from my math class, I was actually going to today but I totally forgot when I was thinking about a big test.:nervous: I have to call my prom date too and set up a date for the weekend, I want to go out with her at least a few times before prom.

I've just been lifting...hard, and dieting like hell. Today in school I got a big compliment from some of the lifters in my class when they all agreed I got pretty strong. What always hurts me though is the weekend, every weekend I end up going out and getting tanked, and blowing 1000 calories in a matter of a few hours, plus I just get pretty lenient with my diet. I want to try to change that, I'm not going to stop partying, but I will start running on the weekends to burn some of those.

Goals for the rest of this week

-Get HB9's number for a hangout over spring break
-Set up a date with HB8
-Do 30 mins of cardio Saturday and Sunday
-Keep reading WOMS

Time to stop this recession and get back to business...