Too many dudes mistake incompatibility for the girl playing games

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Exactly, one of the first things you read in the Bible is about toxic women manipulation! Women have always been manipulative and coercive because they are physically weaker than men. Any person with a little sister or sisters knows that they are groomed to be like this from birth by society.
Men are the same :)

If a guy is weak he will either accept the defeat either he will develop skills to manipulate the stronger ones

A$$ licking is done by both men and women, and is maybe one of the most used manipulation method ( oldest too )

I remember when I firstly got promoted to a management position, people that were reporting to me were always like “ your arms are bigger, you started going to the gym? “ , “ you are so well dressed “ , etc etc

Initially I was blind and liked these type of compliments ( mainly because I was telling to myself that I made it and I am just picking up the spoils of war ) . But after I just start seeing it for what it was

Guys do the same to manipulate women. They promise the world to them, they bang her and then they start treating her like plate

Women do the same, they give guys plenty of sex and they are like “ you are such a great man. So lucky to found you “ , then in the moment the guy commits she started being colder and gets even sh1ttier as things progress ( marriage, children, etc )


This has nothing to do with blue or red pill, it is just how people function. If the woman is not truly lustful for the guy, she is just running her protocol and everything is just a transactional relationship. No one can not really do anything about it, is just nature

What happens if you are in a transactional relationship ( like most of the guys ) and you try to show her who is boss ? You think she will be hurt or get it ? Not really she will just pay it back to you

Have you guys ever noticed that if the relationship is not going well, if she leaves you she will be fine but if you live first she will be mentally destroyed but still if you get back together she will pay it back to you tend fold?
 
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Title should be phrased: "Too many dudes think girls are plaing games with them when they are simply incompatible". When two people like each other, it becomes clear and things happen annd stuff moves forward. When they are on diff levels aka one is confident and one is insecure, the lines become blurred and there can be no chemistry. That's the point. The other points are most guys in these dating circles get too invested in girls they barely know without any rapport/chemistry there in the first place.
What you are talking makes sense, but it‘s for long term full blown deep fundamental loving & caring relationships between a man & woman

I think guys here just want to f hot girls between 18-27.
 

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The only time when women were free was towards the end of the greek, roman and Spartan empires

When women had a lot of liberties during those times : the birthplace decreased, gay sex was common and everyone was basically thinking about partying and sex . A lot of similarities with the current days

In the rest they were not free to do what they wanted and basically had little to no rights , so it is stupid to say that women now are any different than 500 years ago or 2000 years ago

Women are women and people tried to combat their nature by not giving them any rights besides having children and taking care of the house, most likely thinking that the freedom of the women collapsed the civilizations

But from my point the civilizations did not collapsed because of the freedom that was given to women, as they were not the only ones participating in orgies or partying. Men were doing it too. Both women and men were corrupted by the good times and became slaves of their urges , and thus societies collapsed soon after as there was almost no one to keep things running

Look at the children of wealthy people, the vast majority of them are degenerates with big mental problems due to the degenerate life they live. The struggles are the ones that build character, not money or power or whatever. When you have no problems the only thing that you have to do is to party and do orgies

Also, guys thinking that birth control is a modern thing are naive. Since the beginning of civilization mankind found ways to control births. Till recent times the birth control was a bit of poison that was taken early in the pregnancy. Women have quite a decent idea if they remained pregnant or not

As a summary, Very likely your grandma had the same thoughts as todays women, just that she could not act on them at the same level that women can nowadays :)
I was merely talking about in what they desire from a genetic evolutionary standpoint that CapslockBandit brought up. Not detracting from the fact that their nature may have always been the same. But good points regardless.

What you are talking makes sense, but it‘s for long term full blown deep fundamental loving & caring relationships between a man & woman

I think guys here just want to f hot girls between 18-27.
Yep i made that delineation (if this is the right word) in post #19 response to capslock. Its a big part of the incompatibility i was talking about in what the guy is looking for vs many women who want something more serious and long term
 

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I was merely talking about in what they desire from a genetic evolutionary standpoint that CapslockBandit brought up. Not detracting from the fact that their nature may have always been the same. But good points regardless.



Yep i made that delineation (if this is the right word) in post #19 response to capslock
Caps lock is a good guy, just that he tries to understand something that is not really meant to be understood, or we do not have yet the capacity to understand and explain it

But overall there are 2 type of relationships. One is on lust ( pure sexual energy ), while the other one is transactional ( like the vast majority of guys have )

Even pua with all the “guns” they have they mainly teach you the path through transactional sex. Same as red pill people. Believe it or not, but the black pill people even though most of their ideology is retarded ( same as red pill one or pua ) they at least got things right from this point of view

If the woman is not lustful after you ( even the shy ones will stop being so ), then it is transactional

This is something that @FlexpertHamilton does not understand and just thinks that Asian women have better skills in bed. Lustful sex is way different than transactional sex

This also way sex with crazy women is amazing, because they are not logical. It is either lust or nothing. Crazy women are not crazy per se, they are just extremely emotional ( same as men ) and their emotions bypas the logic ( best thing to do )
 
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I also believe that guys should think very careful what creates lust in women

Women know very well what creates lust in men ( showing their cleavage, their ass, their legs, their lips, etc )

Even though a girl is not that good looking but has a really nice ass ( and is dressed in a way that teases men), most guys would be lustful after her. It is not something that you think of, it just happens naturally
 

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I also believe that guys should think very careful what creates lust in women

Women know very well what creates lust in men ( showing their cleavage, their ass, their legs, their lips, etc )

Even though a girl is not that good looking but has a really nice ass ( and is dressed in a way that teases men), most guys would be lustful after her. It is not something that you think of, it just happens naturally
What do you feel creates lust in women? I've seen commonalities knock down doors and create instant lust for myself. Also sharing personal passions and stories about compassion towards others. I've watched their eyes water and their body language change and open up to the point I knew we were fuhking as soon as we found a place. It's all about flipping emotional switches and connecting on a personal level.
 

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What do you feel creates lust in women? I've seen commonalities knock down doors and create instant lust for myself. Also sharing personal passions and stories about compassion towards others. I've watched their eyes water and their body language change and open up to the point I knew we were fuhking as soon as we found a place. It's all about flipping emotional switches and connecting on a personal level.
My experience is that women like this only because there was lust there from the get go

I used to think that talking is the way, but then I realized that if you over do it they will lose interest

Had some amazing discussions with women but at the end they did not really care what you have to say ( even if the chemistry is amazing ) if you are not sexual in your overall vibe and then bang the sh1t out of them ( as soon as possible )

There is an old saying stating that women know from the first couple of seconds if they want to bang you or not

 
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There are a number of reasons why a woman is not responding to a man's efforts to get close. Those reasons do not matter... it doesn't really matter what a man is looking for (i.e. relationship or just have some fun).

The only way to live and date is to keep trying to make as many dates as possible and never put more into dating than the woman is willing to commit.

I can give you COUNTLESS examples of men putting in more effort than the woman is willing to reciprocate and these seldom work out. Because the man just can not keep it up. Short term she loves this! She can brag to her friends that the dude is sending her flowers and spending sh1t tons of money on her... it's great for her ego. But if she doesn't really love the man, she'll move on to some other dude.

Sure if you don't bend over backwards to get a woman, she is VERY likely to just move onto some other man who is.... but then she becomes his problem not yours.
 

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Girls dont play games when you are her top choice.
 

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Think of it like starting and maintaining a fire. You need the spark to kindle the fire, and you need the chemistry to keep the fire going. The spark is what you guys are bringing up – that short-term initial attraction that begins the dating stages. Yes, women will basically worship a guy in this stage, but the fire will need wood (chemistry) to keep ablaze. Once the fire goes away, the Chad she was all over yesterday will be old news the next day, and she will just move on to another guy. If the spark was based on superficial means, immaturity, lust, or simply incompatibility, then the fire will die off because there was no chemistry to maintain the fire. To maintain and sustain the relationship, you need chemistry or compatibility to do so.
 

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Think of it like starting and maintaining a fire. You need the spark to kindle the fire, and you need the chemistry to keep the fire going. The spark is what you guys are bringing up – that short-term initial attraction that begins the dating stages. Yes, women will basically worship a guy in this stage, but the fire will need wood (chemistry) to keep ablaze. Once the fire goes away, the Chad she was all over yesterday will be old news the next day, and she will just move on to another guy. If the spark was based on superficial means, immaturity, lust, or simply incompatibility, then the fire will die off because there was no chemistry to maintain the fire. To maintain and sustain the relationship, you need chemistry or compatibility to do so.
Chemistry is overrated, is something that comes from movies made for women

What you call chemistry is actually reciprocal respect

And is actually what men want, to be respected. Women are fine being your sex toy or being a tyrant ( as long as you do not overdo it or comes out of a place of weakness ). They actually will think you are a p8ssy if you act like they are your equal

Women do not want to make love and be kissed passionately , they want to be humped like there is the last day of the human world

Have you noticed how much women are into being sexually dominated close to a dominatrix dominating the slaves?
 
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Chemistry is overrated, is something that comes from movies made for women

What you call chemistry is actually reciprocal respect

And is actually what men want, to be respected. Women are fine being your sex toy or being a tyrant ( as long as you do not overdo it or comes out of a place of weakness ). They actually will think you are a p8ssy if you act like they are your equal

Women do not want to make love and be kissed passionately , they want to be humped like there is the last day of the human world

Have you noticed how much women are into being sexually dominated close to a dominatrix dominating the slaves?
I do not see how this is mutually exclusive with chemistry. Me and my GF get along quite well, and I dominate her in the bedroom too.
 

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I do not see how this is mutually exclusive with chemistry. Me and my GF get along quite well, and I dominate her in the bedroom too.
One thing is to get along, and a totally different thing have chemistry :)
 

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Part of this is not understanding the difference between relationship compatibility.

Too many guys try to make a woman who is only worthy of a FWB into a girlfriend or a woman only worthy of being a girlfriend into a wife.

Or even worse, a woman only worthy of being an FWB into a wife.

As That Kid LEROI once famously and truthfully sang...

"So there you go...oh,
Can't make a wife out of a ho...so,"

Most men would do well to listen to that song over and over again on repeat until it sinks in.
 

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One day you're THE guy, the next day she barely replies your texts. She's gone and you did nothing wrong.
Sometimes, but more often is you've done something wrong in her eyes, you'll just never find out exactly what it is.

You don't determine when you've done something wrong in terms of her leaving, she does.
 

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Sometimes, but more often is you've done something wrong in her eyes, you'll just never find out exactly what it is.

You don't determine when you've done something wrong in terms of her leaving, she does.
You know when you did something wrong and you know when you didn't, especially when you are experienced with women.
My point is, if she thinks you did something wrong, it doesn't mean that you did.
 

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‘Chemistry’ is the man’s ability to not f up the desire that a woman already has for him
That’s it
The woman is already attracted due to biology (looks money status)
Chemistry = she went on a date with you and you didn’t ruin her attraction by acting thirsty or doing something that dry her up
‘Game’ was a phrase coined by scammers designed to make you think that you can pay someone else to teach you how to get better results. It made a select few men (who tended to be good looking, white and tall) multimillionaires and lefts thousands of other men clueless and wasted their time.
Looks money status, act high value, know how to escalate, don’t be needy, that’s all there is to it.

When you have slept with girls within 15-30 mins based off sexual attraction, whilst other guys were trying to ‘game’ that same woman or write the perfect text, you will understand.

Women sleep with a man based on the ‘fantasy idea’ they have off him. This is completely subjective and formed within seconds of meeting the man. You may be dressed a certain way, walking a certain way, with the light shining a certain way and she gets an idea that you’re some cool exclusive guy and she feels more attraction and ‘chemistry’ for you than a guy she’s been dating for 8 months
 

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‘Chemistry’ is the man’s ability to not f up the desire that a woman already has for him
That’s it
The woman is already attracted due to biology (looks money status)
Chemistry = she went on a date with you and you didn’t ruin her attraction by acting thirsty or doing something that dry her up
‘Game’ was a phrase coined by scammers designed to make you think that you can pay someone else to teach you how to get better results. It made a select few men (who tended to be good looking, white and tall) multimillionaires and lefts thousands of other men clueless and wasted their time.
Looks money status, act high value, know how to escalate, don’t be needy, that’s all there is to it.

When you have slept with girls within 15-30 mins based off sexual attraction, whilst other guys were trying to ‘game’ that same woman or write the perfect text, you will understand.

Women sleep with a man based on the ‘fantasy idea’ they have off him. This is completely subjective and formed within seconds of meeting the man. You may be dressed a certain way, walking a certain way, with the light shining a certain way and she gets an idea that you’re some cool exclusive guy and she feels more attraction and ‘chemistry’ for you than a guy she’s been dating for 8 months
nah that aint what chemistry is at all .

chemistry is literall called chemistry because its the hormonal /bio chemical feelings that arise when 2 people connect on a levelof comfort/security/confidence/sexual arousal/attraction.

Most people when they meet are not even comfortable.. they're trying to make it work because they have only 1 element 1) Attraction.. but they dont have the rapport, they're not on the same level/same vibe and the flirting doesnt work or one doesnt know how to flirt while the other tries.. theres a misalignment.. an incompatibility.. personality differences most of the time.

this incompatibility is what im talking about. then when the guy sees the girl again and this time tries to make a move becausehe didnt ge tthe # the first time, hes anxious to even ask her for it (an example im thinking of is a guy who dmed me about a work scenario).. hes waiting for validation even tho part of him feels like the girl likes him. they still haven't had the chemistry to meet halfway and create any good/non platonic rapport. thats where the "i like her/him but she/they are being weird"
 
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