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To treat them as a male, or not.

itishe

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With this forum/Bible there is alot of conflicting advice, leading to a bad battle plan when in the field. I read of talking to a woman like you would a male buddy (try not to get close) compared to the make damn well she knows she's a female and you want her.

Would the more sucessful guys tell me of what their mindset is when they talk to a female? Just take it like you would a buddy (alot of guy buddies touch each other, so this option doesn't rule out Kino), or completely different?

I'm not looking for that super deep stuff either. Example: Well if it's an HB9 with an ego problem, pull a neg then launch a nuclear missle while eating cottage cheese upside down.

My game with women (although my standing with the guys is going up) is getting pretty piss poor, as I can certaintly tell from asking such a question with which I'm sure has a simple answer. I've been missing out on sleep quite a bit lately so maybe that has something do with it as well.
 

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If you treat them like a MALE friend, then they will end up becoming your friend, it lies in the subtle differences that you differenciate them from your MALE friends.
1. Kino them for god sake: lean on them, hug them, get kisses on the cheek from them.
2. Make fun of stupid **** they do: when your guy friends do something ****ing stupid, do you try to convince them it wasn't stupid? NO! you give them a hard time for it! Bust on girls as you would any other guy, if they say something stupid, give them a wierd look and say "your so wierd" or whatever, the best thing about it is that, with girls it becomes teasing, and they will flirt with you because of it.
3. Comment on their girliness: girls will be girls, make sure they know that by throwing in lines such as "you look ravishing today", or if you are bolder "i like your boobs in that shirt", all these sorts of not so serious compliments work wonders, the girl will always feel complimented no matter how embarassed she reacts.

It's all about flow and comfort, obviously things will not go well if your mindset is "oh god im talking to a girl what do i say PANIC" just relax, your conversation with a girl should be just as fun as it would be with any guy friend you have.

--Mission
 

Best friends? NAY

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Qualify, qualify, qualify. Yes act like there a girl beacuse they are. But just beacuse she is a cute girl doesn't mean she isn't the most retarded person earth who would bore you to tears in minutes. Or will match your personality at all.

Don't do it in a condicending im better then you and you have to prove your at my level way. Do it in a are we compatible way.

You're trying to get to know her better to see if you would actualy be a good couple. (Unless you're not then just use canned lines, run patterns, etc.)
 

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Male friends: You don't hit on your male friends. You treat them like friends. You don't use the same kind of Kino that you do on women (I hope). You don't mack on your male friends (Again, I hope not). Why treat a girl that way?

Treat her like a girl. However, treat her as if shes a normal everyday girl. I've gotten in the habit of pulling C&F, Kino, Flirting, Winking, etc. with EVERY girl. This way she notices. She sees you treat her no differently. Subconciously it's a challenge. Mission? Get this guy to treat me differently. She'll do anything she can to get you to see her in a different light. You know what that means...
 
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