timeline therapy-any use for inner game

[callmemister]

or pick ups?
nothing on wikipedia and my google fu isnt best?

advice me some books,dvd and cd's.

thank you



alex

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I'm curious on why you are considering this.

 

[john_1234]

if you have issues from the past that hold you back, timeline therapy is the way to go

 

[callmemister]

I'm curious on why you are considering this.

as john1234 said i would like to clean my past of certain failures,
that are holding me back,not only from girls,but from other things.
i want to better my self all around.
-for the girls-i want to stop beeing shy
-for work- stop beeing lazy

deep in my self i know that i am not shy and lazy i just want to remove them.

alex

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

as john1234 said i would like to clean my past of certain failures,
that are holding me back,not only from girls,but from other things.
i want to better my self all around.
-for the girls-i want to stop beeing shy
-for work- stop beeing lazy

deep in my self i know that i am not shy and lazy i just want to remove them.

alex

Timeline therapy does deal with issues of the past, attempting to combine it with sarging incongruent since you'd be focusing on surface issues (your game) instead of your underlying problems which effect your game. Use TLT to first address your personal issues at a level that's broader than just interacting with women. Once you are confident that they are resolved, incorporating the logic behind sarging women can be done much more easily.

 

[callmemister]

actually i was hoping that timeline therapy could help me
with my lack of ambition and lack of "agressiveness" toward life.
i see lot of my buddies beeing ambitious and very concentrated in everything
from work to girls. me,the life seems to pass me, im the nice guy always
in the mid road.

is there any stuff cd or dvd for stimulating ambition (subconsciously)?

does creating your reality=timeline therapy?
isnt it dangerous to create your reality?

instead of your underlying problems which effect your game

i'm not following,i'm sorry

alex

 

[oakraiderz2]

as john1234 said i would like to clean my past of certain failures,
that are holding me back,not only from girls,but from other things.
i want to better my self all around.
-for the girls-i want to stop beeing shy
-for work- stop beeing lazy

deep in my self i know that i am not shy and lazy i just want to remove them.

alex

You dont need this so called timeline there in order to change. I was shy and lazy and i didnt need therapy to help. All you need is self esteem, confidence, knowledge of how to talk to people and motivation. Each time you talk to someone try to talk a little more than you usually would. Thats what i did. Read some stuff here about conversation and all that good stuff. Go to the tips forum, search for weapons of mass seduction and read it all.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

i'm not following,i'm sorry

Guy's who have symptoms of social anxiety that makes it difficult for them to approach, hold conversations or interact with groups of people can be due to some other underlying issue which is the true cause of this problem. Having a "fake it until you make it" resolution style for example, will only address the symptoms without targeting the actual problem. With time the problem resurfaces.

Timeline therapy has worked well if the exact past life even(s) which caused the problem is identified with methods such as regression therapy. The cause (problem) is addressed which will allow you to more effectively manage the symptoms (lack of ability with picking up women for example). The key is that there is an event slowing you down, not lack of motivation.

So, if there are past events that pop into your head that's impeding your ability to be ambitious or more aggressive, TLT could be beneficial. If it's just lack of motivation, other methods such as Neuro Linguistic Programming and/or Psycho Cybernetics would suffice.

Finally, as for your question about reality.... There is no reality, only perception.... "There is no spoon."

 

[callmemister]

thank you oakraiderz2 and francisco

If it's just lack of motivation, other methods such as Neuro Linguistic Programming and/or Psycho Cybernetics would suffice.

yes,lack of motivation.
the most negative question i always ask myself is:
"why should i (try to) do something?"
or
"why should i bust my behind,it so futile?"


maybe some eft?

"There is no spoon."

out of the sheer curiosity i googled it.
didnt know it was from matrix.
did not understood it very well,i am afraid

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...out of the sheer curiosity i googled it.
didnt know it was from matrix.
did not understood it very well,i am afraid

Red pill or the blue?

 

[callmemister]

Red pill or the blue?

red,thank you very much.

no joking,but i could not take the blue pill even if i wanted to.

i changed a little or lot after reading the game by strauss.
i started gathering info about social interactions,about picking up.
i like tyler d 25 rules and i started to get interested in social comunication.
the only thing hard to understand for me is non verbal comunication.
simply, i dont believe it exist. that is why i asked everybody about
frames,states of mind ecc.

the most amazing thing is that i almost changed about 80 % of
my wardrobe. nobody believed it and i bought myself an ipod
full of free pua podcasts and music.

so the red pill for me ,sir.

 

[oakraiderz2]

the only thing hard to understand for me is non verbal comunication.
simply, i dont believe it exist. that is why i asked everybody about
frames,states of mind ecc.

the most amazing thing is that i almost changed about 80 % of
my wardrobe. nobody believed it and i bought myself an ipod
full of free pua podcasts and music.

Two people are in a room after a fight and arent talking...nothings being communicated? When people are nervous they get figitty, talk fast or talk a lot. The fact that you havnet notice or even dont believe in body language makes me wonder. Obviously youre COMPLETELY unaware of how you non verbally communicate, which presents problems in its own respect. Look up body language. And why dont you believe in non verbal com?? What made you come up with all that?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...the only thing hard to understand for me is non verbal comunication.
simply, i dont believe it exist. that is why i asked everybody about
frames,states of mind ecc....

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. :nono:

Here's a glass of water for your pill....

 

[callmemister]

The fact that you havnet notice or even dont believe in body language makes me wonder. Obviously youre COMPLETELY unaware of how you non verbally communicate, which presents problems in its own respect

what solution do you propose?

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist

yes,i know ,that's why i am here,to learn.
it is more usefull for me to understand my lack of knowledge and learn
then to live ignorant.
what books should i start to read?
what solution do you propose?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

what solution do you propose?




yes,i know ,that's why i am here,to learn.
it is more usefull for me to understand my lack of knowledge and learn
then to live ignorant.
what books should i start to read?
what solution do you propose?

For personal growth (your foundation) I suggest looking at the work of Tony Robbins to start. There's more detailed works out there but I wouldn't suggest any of them as a starting point.

Someone said in another thread that guys should get their heads on straight before jumping into much of the DJ material such as the bootcamps. I agree, you get into a productive, confident and purposeful state of mind and the rest of this stuff should be more easily learned.