This should go without saying, but keep your thoughts to yourself.

[Warrior74]

Especially your thoughts on women and the game...sometimes its fun to let women know that you know the score, and they will admit the truth of the game when faced with it, but you don't want a lot of women in your social circle to know your opinions on the game and women. Especially if your thoughts do not agree with the mainstream feminist/gay/afc agenda. The game is to be played silently. Hunters do go around with bullhorns and firing off shots, you dig?

Don't go posting your thoughts on women and the game on your facebook and myspace and that sort of stuff. I just saw one of my friends do that to spark a debate (don't date single mothers), but really it turned into women and afcs bashing him for his opinions. He's a bit of a player...but now everyone knows how he thinks and can read it. And you know how stupid the human animal is, if everyone says this guy is wrong then he's wrong, right?

I sent him a message telling him to delete that entire thing quickly, before it put a stain on his rep. It's probably too late.

Just remember...keep your thoughts to yourself. Let your actions speak for you.

 

[KontrollerX]

Agreed.

Thats why we have a site like this.

To vent about the realities of the Matrix which we cannot do in our private lives.

Here we can speak plainly and share trade secrets.

Out there we have to pretend to be a part of their world and believe in the same things others do but do it in such a way and with such understanding of the system that we win the game and benefit the most.

 

[Alexander the Great]

May I second this?

The minute women outrightly know you're a "player" (they'll always call you that, even if you are not), you've hurt your ability with them. You'll be know as "dangerous" and unreliable, and in their minds they will immediately be a definite slut if they engage with you. "He seduced me" is no longer an excuse, because "You knew in advance what he was like". To any woman other than a freak or a ho, being a "good girl" is imperative to them.

As for the red pill-attitude of us DJs, it is not very compatible with mainstream thinking indeed and it will earn you the reputation of misogynist, a woman-hater. This will hurt your chances as well, and not only with women but also with jobs, friends, family. You name it.

Remain that mysterious guy who seems to be a real ladies man but so nice and cool otherwise. Someone who "gets it" without them consciously realizing what "it" really is. This is our predicament: we are the modern day vampires, without the negative and messy bloodlust. We are the secret society Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned. Except to those who stand to benefit from the knowledge.



The first rule of the game is... you do not talk about the game!

The second rule of the game is... you DO NOT not talk about the game!

The third rule of the game is... if you must talk about the Matrix, do it in obfuscating terms. Present yourself as a society-critical thinker by making observations about what you perceive as strange status-quo's. Do not make bold and aggressive statements that go outrightly against mainstream thinking. Good advice for any reformer, by the way. Effective change always occurs from within, not without.

I'll come up with rules 4, 5 and beyond someday...



Like Warrior says: Keep your thoughts to yourself (and SoSuave). Let your actions speak for you.

 

[Colossus]

There is a fine art to disclosing your views and framing it in such a way that it doesn't make you appear a villain.

Sooner or later, your views on women and relationships are going to come out-- if you're with a girl long enough. Interested women loovvve to ask questions, to poke and prod and see what you're motives are all about.

This is where it gets tricky, because once you have said something you cant just unsay it. It will go on permanent record and WILL be used against you at some point, even you try and rescind your statement or nullify it by relating or sympathizing with them.

I find that it's best to be honest, but not in the way we are honest here. You have to frame your insight in a way that is interesting but not offensive or cutting. It's a touchy game.

 

[slaog]

On thing you should never talk about is tactics or how to attract women. Also never give the impression you've studied it.

Don't go posting your thoughts on women and the game on your facebook and myspace and that sort of stuff. I just saw one of my friends do that to spark a debate (don't date single mothers), but really it turned into women and afcs bashing him for his opinions. He's a bit of a player...but now everyone knows how he thinks and can read it. And you know how stupid the human animal is, if everyone says this guy is wrong then he's wrong, right?

I sent him a message telling him to delete that entire thing quickly, before it put a stain on his rep. It's probably too late.

When telling women your views there are more then 1 way of doing it. Instead saying that dating single mothers is bad it would be alot more acceptable if you mentioned why you don't want to date single mothers.


Don't go preeching and telling people your way is best and all other ways are wrong. People don't like that because they've different views and not everybody is or wants to be a player.


Warrior74's friend has only made himself look foolish.

 

[slaog]

double post

 

[edger]

A couple of weeks ago I got into a conversation with a woman I work with of how "men and women should split the bill on the first hangout, and how both should take turns paying when hanging out", which didn't go too well with her. I told her, "what makes you so special that I have to dish out money for you?" Her response was, "I am special". I was going to say, "you think you are", but didn't push it, as the conversation was already heavy as it was and I was at work. Not only was I battling her, but had to deal with my male colleagues ganging up on me as well(gee what a surprise, right?). Last thing I need is to be fired over some stupid "entitled b*tch". Not worth it at all. Had I been on the street with her, I would've stuck it to her good. This woman then asks me, "where do you get this from?"

 

[STR8UP]

I will discuss certain aspects of male/female interactions with women, but I know when to shut my mouth.

There is no more pointless endeavor than arguing with a woman. Never EVER try to dispel any of these beliefs that they hold dear.

A couple of the 48 Laws of Power apply here. They apply to men too, but ESPECIALLY women.

Law 4​

Always Say Less than Necessary​

Law 9​

Win through your Actions, Never through Argument​

Law 19​

Know Who You’re Dealing with – Do Not Offend the Wrong Person​

Law 32​

Play to People’s Fantasies​

And last but certainly not least......

Law 38​

Think as you like but Behave like others​

 

[Trader]

What a timely thread

I have been *voicing* my opinions too much and it has slightly hurt my interactions with girls - though my charisma usually is enough to pull it off

Problem is, these jealous AFC guys use my opinions to trap me and try to make me look bad

Yes, I just need to STFU and just LIVE IT out

 

[Jitterbug]

To add to the OP:

Resist the urge to share knowledge, e-books and forums like this one with your AFC friends. Fight that good intention you have to help your friends in need. Remember that it can be used against you so cover your arse first.

Only share if your friends are clearly desperate and are asking you for help. In that case, ease them into it by sharing a little from your own experience first and only until they've proven to be reliabl and not some wussy gossipers, are willing to make changes and not just pathetic whiners, send them to the right place.

As learned from my bad & good experiences of trying to be a good friend. :/

 

[horaholic]

Im bad about this. I dont disclose any sources, but I end up discussing gender politics too much. One girl asked me if I read the Game while I was talking to her. I told her it was obsolete, so no. I have gotten several girls (not girls Im gaming, just ones I know, and are talking to) to completely understand my point of view on things. I dont think I come off as a player, though. It only comes out once in a while though, usually when Im buzzed, but I know I need to shut my trap sometimes.

Last night, I was going for some girls number, and she said no because Im 'trouble.' I've never heard this before, but I know I need to ignore it and keep at it. This girl was giving me ioi's, and I think she's kinda hot.

 

[decades]

women don't care if you are a player. they will still be all over that schit. even more.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The first rule of Fight Club is the same as the first rule of SoSuave.

 

[Warrior74]

Crap. I meant this for the main forum. I assume most of you guys here know this by now.

 

[Werman]

I don't even talk to my male friends about this forum. I tried to bring it up to my roommate once because he is becoming more AFC every day, but is in too much denial to try to do anything about it. At the mere mention of reading some things online to try and help him see things from a DJ point of view, he scoffed and turned it around on me like I was pathetic for coming here.

So yeah, I wouldn't bring up this site to ANYONE unless you walk in on them browsing it. Even then I would be careful...

 

[Faded Image]

The first rule of Fight Club is the same as the first rule of SoSuave.

Oh so true!

 

[jonwon]

Dont tell a women anything she doesn't need to know.