This is fvcked up, thoughts?

[The LadyKiller]

I work at a large corporate company. The job has been great, everything is flowing smoothly, etc. However, I received a note from HR saying we had to meet.

Apparently, a girl who "resigned" from the company six months ago just sued the company citing an "uncomfortable work environment." She felt that guys viewed her as a piece of meat and would always be making moves on her. She then listed "at least 10-12 employees" on her list according to HR. Of course, one of the names is me.

I won't get into the details, but she thought I was "obsessed" with her, stalked her and otherwise made her uncomfortable. These claims are empty and most importantly, false. I barely knew her and never had any feelings towards her; didn't speak to her much. Her view of "stalking" = me going to work and doing my job. We worked in the same department.

A lawyer friend of mine says I don't have much to worry about (besides the fact I was truthful) because there's no physical proof of any possible wrongdoing - it's all "he said/she said" - and she named at least 10-12 employees, not 1-2. My company can't check my story with her either because she is no longer working here.

Your thoughts? My employment isn't at risk, but a warning or a counseling session for false accusations is not right. They told me I shouldn't be worried and that they will look for holes in her story, but this is unfamiliar territory for me.

 

[The Gambler]

I won't get into the details, but she thought I was "obsessed" with her, stalked her and otherwise made her uncomfortable.

My best advice? Don't let them find out you go by the name "The LadyKiller" on the Don Juan discussion forum....

 

[backseatjuan]

Look for holes = review video surveilance and network communications.

Her filing a law suit makes her the enemy of the company, this is not to say you are safe. They could fire your ass if they feel the need to.

Now a word to HR of your company. Guys not knowledgable in Don Juan theory stalk women, because they can't read the clues when a girl is not interested. Guys that know the game have an attitude of ample plenty - there is too many options around. That girl is mentally ill if she said 20 guys stalked her.

 

[ArcBound]

Isn't that defamation?

 

[Burroughs]

Sadly this will become the norm in the years to come...in the old days lying women would be taken out by the male villagers and jerked off on and then fed to wolves....these days women have carte blanche to act anyway they choose towards men and the state will support it...

damaging a males reputation is tolerated because men have no inherent value in our society...and the majority of men support this.

in our society men are expendable; slaves to work the machine....it is high time men wake up to this fact and act accordingly.

 

[metoo]

and do what, exactly? I just go my way, with preps made to vanish if need be. I am retired on my investments, and have quite a bit of credit and a fair amount of gold, along with survivalist type stuff. Nothing more is needed.

 

[backseatjuan]

Government seized large amount of gold coins ^^^^
You want to check out infowars for the article.

 

[The LadyKiller]

Look for holes = review video surveilance and network communications.

That's the only hard "evidence" this crazy b*tch can hope for. Unfortunately for her, nothing concrete will show up. We've had a couple of correspondences because she's needed help on certain assignments, but nothing outside of that. I had already told HR about brief good-natured ribbing about our favorite football teams because they're rivals, so that wouldn't hurt me.

As you said in your post, she could be mentally ill naming so many people. She must believe quantity counts for something.

Isn't that defamation?

If this were to escalate and show up on my record, yes. Otherwise, no because it would remain confidential. I asked HR about this too.

 

[PRMoon]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. 10-12 people in a hostile work environment suit without any hard evidence or a SERIES of documented reports of her going to HR naming people specifically on each occasion makes her look either a lazy person trying to work the system over for money or just crazy. The worst part is, aside from her law fees, nothing will happen to her and she can go on to her next job and try to run her scheme unchecked there as well.

 

[The LadyKiller]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. 10-12 people in a hostile work environment suit without any hard evidence or a SERIES of documented reports of her going to HR naming people specifically on each occasion makes her look either a lazy person trying to work the system over for money or just crazy. The worst part is, aside from her law fees, nothing will happen to her and she can go on to her next job and try to run her scheme unchecked there as well.

This makes sense and, unfortunately, probably true. This girl has issues. I mentioned this elsewhere on the forum, but my new concern is, while HR is coming to the conclusion that the girl lied about the entire thing, some girls at work believe it! HR wouldn't have mentioned any of this, but the girl has a few friends working at the company and I'm sure they spread the "claims." Of course I have no proof, but the recent change in behavior occurred around the same time the crazy girl would have taken legal action. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[PRMoon]

This makes sense and, unfortunately, probably true. This girl has issues. I mentioned this elsewhere on the forum, but my new concern is, while HR is coming to the conclusion that the girl lied about the entire thing, some girls at work believe it! HR wouldn't have mentioned any of this, but the girl has a few friends working at the company and I'm sure they spread the "claims." Of course I have no proof, but the recent change in behavior occurred around the same time the crazy girl would have taken legal action. Coincidence? I think not.

Despite what you saw few women have actual "girlfriends" at work. Really it's just someone they put up with but more often than not secretly despise. If what you said was true and this girl was all loonie tunes, then as soon as she was gone they started talking trash about her. Besides even if they did start rumors or what not, none of them actually witness the alleged transgressions to HR or they'd of said something like "There are multiple witness to blah blah blah" from the get go.

There was a girl who really was sexually harassed at one of my previous positions so I've seen how this stuff goes down. HR does not make it a cake walk for a girl bringing a claim against just one person. There's a significant burdon of proof and a process to go through. The girl ended up quitting because of administrative retaliation a few months after but trust me the procesd she went through just to get the guy fired was hard. And the girl you're taking about has multiple "attackers" who are not associated with one another?! There's almost no way not to view it as a crazy person because the burdon of proof would have to be enormous.

Like I said don't worry about it too much. You've probobly already heard the last of it.

 

[Sneevox]

This makes sense and, unfortunately, probably true. This girl has issues. I mentioned this elsewhere on the forum, but my new concern is, while HR is coming to the conclusion that the girl lied about the entire thing, some girls at work believe it! HR wouldn't have mentioned any of this, but the girl has a few friends working at the company and I'm sure they spread the "claims." Of course I have no proof, but the recent change in behavior occurred around the same time the crazy girl would have taken legal
action. Coincidence? I think not.

This sounds like the same thing that happens to many poor saps in highschool.

One girl thinks a guy is obsessive for no good reason, then she spreads that idea to her friends. They all believe it, and they tell everyone, then before you know it, this guy is "creepy" in the eyes of every girl for no good reason and he gets beat up all the time because guys think he's hitting on their girl even though he was just asking for a pencil.
Of course, that doesn't happen if this guy plays sports or is friends with popular guys.

 

[Poonani Maker]

All I can say is VERY FEW women don't TATTLE TALE at every turn in their lives. They are CONSTANT tattle tales, Be-Cauze..........They. Are. Weak. Sissy. GIRLZ. The MAJORITY of the b!tches you encounter in Your Life WILL Lie, tell other girls you did such and such to her or whatever and you did not! do a damn thing to her. Then she'll make it public and tell people she doesn't even know that you're a horrible azzhole, POS, scum, What-ever...and a LOT of guys, a Lot of Capt'n Save-a-hoes, a Lot of White Knights Especially older school guys who used to treat females as "Ladys" holding the door etc etc and don't Realize that women today are not women at all but...I don't know what the American woman is today really to be honest. Few are normal now.

The rare woman who doesn't make a fuss, or just ignores you and doesn't go around spreading lies, flappin her stupid B1tch mouth over and over again to any b!tch or man who will hear her to be the victim and FEEL better about herself cause she's too WEAK to shrug things off. The rare, like 10% maybe, will be scoffed at and shunned/laughed at, ostracized and on and on, but Guys who know the score, who know Typical Female Behavior, will Really, really like this standup girl who doesn't cause stupid fvcking drama, but for some reason, these girls who think level-headed like a man and don't fret the small stuff, for some reason, are usually not all that attractive to us guys. She's the kind who struggles for legitimate attraction of males. It's the Females who get Overwhelming attention and coddling, due to their looks most likely, that will NEVER see things logically or with even-tempered thought (as would a man). These are far too gone in their minds, Especially Today, in This world we live in, where women are legally strong but not at all physically or mentally strong. They have the upper hand in LEGAL support ONLY in this world guys. This is due to the people the 1% at the top who enable this injustice to go on. There's a very few clan or tribe of people who Want this game to carry on, and there's NOTHING you can do about it. Nothing. You are disempowered, as a man, LEGALLY, because, you were BORN a man. This is the ONLY reason you are not supported, by law, because you were Born a Man in America. The legal system is subjective entirely, and at current state, you have no voice in court...IN the workplace, IN the classroom, IN wherever you are in a "professional" setting today, because you were Born a Man in America during these times, where the inequity is shifted broadly and overly on the side of women due to a so-called discrimination against all women for thousands of years by men. They've swung the pendulum WAY over to compensate for all those years of their feeling of being kept in the dark all throughout the ages. Only the woman does.

Women SHOULD be kept in the dark and out of a man's business. They Should be relegated to weaker things cause they are weak by nature. They misinterpret EVERYTHING, 90% of them do. There's a handful of women who think like a man (I'd assumed that they were Born with those gifts, it's genetic and not so-much "learned"). I'm telling you, I've met 100s of 1000s if not a million unique people in my life thus far, and women, by far, misread a LOT of sh!t. They get things Wrong A LOT of times, again and again on the whole (of course, there's the 10% who are level-headed and can think on their feet, probably the female lawyers you see, the tomboys, the ones who can shoot guns, etc etc etc).

Women are toooooo weak on their backs, in their leisure, in their lounging, their recessing, their ease of passing the time like a butterfly, to Really READ anything correctly in Real-time, on the move, out there in the real world. They yap on that fvckin phone 24/7. That's not being adept, fellas. That's just passing the weak-as5 fvckin time, a space of nothingness of not much grit or kernel of truth anywhere to be found, and whatever is said is soon vaporized and forgotten. Not many quotes AT ALL can you take for these b!tches incessant yapping that will stand as words to revere for ages to be held up, to be regarded as gold, as fixed wisdom. What are They Working towards??? if it is not constant scheming and lies and hogwash manipulation games all the fvckering time?? They work not toward anything productive, but dare I say, anything that they can obtain from Men (the value in this equation), position, a step up, an upgrade, it's a grab, like a child grabbing for a balloon or a popsicle. It's a reach and grab for our booty. It's all a fvcking waste of time finagling to Rip from our lives material possessions for themselves. Everything she does is to make herself Feel good. If her feeling good is off-kilter she's forever seeking to bring that back, externally. She cannot make herself feel good about herself internally, like we can, cause she weaker (90%). It's a Child we are dealing with fellas, and the authorities that be will give her her sucker to shut her up, and maybe even to get into her panties.

 

[The LadyKiller]

Despite what you saw few women have actual "girlfriends" at work. Really it's just someone they put up with but more often than not secretly despise. If what you said was true and this girl was all loonie tunes, then as soon as she was gone they started talking trash about her. Besides even if they did start rumors or what not, none of them actually witness the alleged transgressions to HR or they'd of said something like "There are multiple witness to blah blah blah" from the get go.

I agree about the "multiple witnesses." She has no evidence since nothing ever happened. However, perception > reality, and it seems some of the girls are going off what they (presumably) heard. One girl I knew - she was a friend of the crazy chick - had shown high IL levels towards me. Then, suddenly, she stopped talking to me. Not even a hello. I guess we know why.

There was a girl who really was sexually harassed at one of my previous positions so I've seen how this stuff goes down. HR does not make it a cake walk for a girl bringing a claim against just one person. There's a significant burdon of proof and a process to go through. The girl ended up quitting because of administrative retaliation a few months after but trust me the procesd she went through just to get the guy fired was hard. And the girl you're taking about has multiple "attackers" who are not associated with one another?! There's almost no way not to view it as a crazy person because the burdon of proof would have to be enormous.

The fact she listed so many names has to weaken her case. They read me her claims against me, and none are even proof-able even if they were true (they're not). Still, they made it a point to bring me in and talk about it for half an hour.

Like I said don't worry about it too much. You've probobly already heard the last of it.

Hope so. No news is good news.

This sounds like the same thing that happens to many poor saps in highschool.

One girl thinks a guy is obsessive for no good reason, then she spreads that idea to her friends. They all believe it, and they tell everyone, then before you know it, this guy is "creepy" in the eyes of every girl for no good reason and he gets beat up all the time because guys think he's hitting on their girl even though he was just asking for a pencil.
Of course, that doesn't happen if this guy plays sports or is friends with popular guys.

:crackup: this is true. I was never beaten up in school, but a good example. Girls exaggerate a lot.