These Airplane Liquid Bombs are BS.

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Leave it to the news to spread more propaganda.

Liquid bombs? Now ALL liquids are banned before you get on? Does this include formula for babies? Get ready to pop 'em babes, you gonna be breast feedin' dem lil babies. For sure!

Sometimes I feel like it's just a real life version of the Sims, or some other game where propaganda and BS news stories are concocted to see the effect on people.

Even IF terrorists wanted to bomb planes, why bother with planes? Look at what they did. And bottom-line, terrorists DON'T gain from such situations, governments do.

How?

Just look and watch and wait and see. People will BEG for more laws, more protection, and just like the mafia, they'll oblige, and do so in extremely harsh ways. When 9-11 occurred, it was the Constitution-trashing "Patriot Act" that was the extreme birth of those unfortunate days. Now, people will be limited to what they can bring on planes, and from what I've heard so far, laptops will have to be stored, IF they're even allowed on at all. You can store much in a laptop, and even disassemable it to use the parts individually as make-shift bombs. Lithium batteries in water can disastrous effects.

Am I only the one who sees this? We have a plasma/flat @ the office, and all I hear all day is the bad shyt wrong in the world. Nothing about beauty. Nothing about triumph. Nothing about valor. Nothing about virtue. I hear about the market collapsing, the CEO's stealing funds from major companies, police chases in California practically everyday, how Israel is blowing the crap out of Lebanon, how kids are being killed over there, and now...this.

I've long since tuned out, but the publics gut reaction tells me how deep they are programmed to REACTION just as the perpetrators expect. If ANYTHING, our INTERNATIONAL image is SO damaged, WE DESERVE all the crap we get. Why? Because, it's up to the people to take charge and responsibility. Even if the electoral votes WERE fixed, it is still up to the people in the end. We are "hoping" those elected represent us BEST, both domestically and internationally. As American citizens right now, can we really say that? Granted there's a level of clearance to which the public can't know everything, but we're in a territory where most people feel we're just chattle/sheeple, stupid to be told anything but local news and the weather.

Most of the stuff over seas, and traumatic indicents domestically are created, manifested, and designed for some outcome. We spend 100x our education budget, and YET, the brightest minds in the government and corporate america working under the charge of the elected government CANNOT stop Liquid Bombs? PLEEEEASEE. They have bombs even the PUBLIC does not know about, and now you tell me some small-time outfit finds ways to make and get bombs on planes? NO WAY. These are outfits of the government who plan and stage covert operations and psyops...and you want to tell me trained minds and soldiers are TRICKED, though they the MOST funds available AND time, the world over? NO WAAAY, again. Our defense budget is well over 500 billion NOW, and you can't tell me as a 26 year old voter, that that 500 billion plus IS NOT KEEPING OUR "threat LEVEL" below orange! DOES NOT HAPPEN. They have virtually LIMITLESS funds, since they can print money, and yet, people foreign and domestic can pull off stuff that boyscouts would? Not a chance.

And perhaps, again, we deserve it, because the country doesn't care. They aren't willing sacrifice everything this country was founded on and everything our ancestors fought for to create it. Rather, they will ONLY concern themselves WHEN it bumps into their reality OR they can't buy, drink, fvck, inject, watch, view, gripe, or any OTHER vice and addiction you can think of is curtailed.

I had to get that off my chest, because given all the common sense I possess, all I know from history, it doesn't take an insider to SEE that the biggest person to benefit is the government who would DELIGHT in people requesting the curtailment of MORE freedoms in return for social restraint. Its disgusting. It's always the "out there" phenomen. And people so ignore of what's going on and been going on, are very quick to judge foreigners, islamists, arabs, and anyone else that fits the profile of a terrorists. So long as they generate the fake boogeyman, we'll occupy countries that don't want us. Is the world ANYMORE safer NOW than it was when we first invaded IRAQ, IRAN, etc...? I doubt it. In fact it's not. We've roused the hornets nest and now they're retaliating relentlessly and won't stop.

If I hear one more secretary talk about how "unsafe" the world is, or "how we have to get the terrorists", I'm going to ape myself. It's bad enough people ONLY get the news from news sources so under the watch of the FCC and FTC they can't report ANY other perspective, but to actually REGURGITATE this as opinion is crap. Two times.



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A-Unit said:
Leave it to the news to spread more propaganda.
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A-Unit
This is slightly off-topic, but do you think all the books that you read (I read your book list thread) influenced your intelligence of politics, life, writing and such? The way you write seems to be that you are very educated and I'm not sure if this is from your upbringing, formal education or simply reading.

But on topic, I fully agree with you. I'm just awaiting for the day when the government slips and initiates a draft. Mark my words, that'll be the turning point of this country.
 

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For the most part I agree with you, but I still think there's hope. Take a look at the democrat primary elections of Connecticut's senator. Lieberman, the long time incumbent, lost his seat to an unknown because Lieberman was pro war in Iraq. Other politicians immediately took notice and are changing their strategies.
 

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A-Unit said:
Am I only the one who sees this? We have a plasma/flat @ the office, and all I hear all day is the bad shyt wrong in the world. Nothing about beauty. Nothing about triumph. Nothing about valor. Nothing about virtue. I hear about the market collapsing, the CEO's stealing funds from major companies, police chases in California practically everyday, how Israel is blowing the crap out of Lebanon, how kids are being killed over there, and now...this.
That is because bad news is good news. Face it, when something bad happens, people watch. No one really cares when a kid wins a spelling bee or something. Its just human nature.
 

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A-Unit said:
. Is the world ANYMORE safer NOW than it was when we first invaded IRAQ, IRAN, etc...? I doubt it. In fact it's not. We've roused the hornets nest and now they're retaliating relentlessly and won't stop.

If I hear one more secretary talk about how "unsafe" the world is, or "how we have to get the terrorists", I'm going to ape myself
You sort of contradicted yourself over there. You said it yourself the world is not as safe as it was before. In actuality you are living in the safest time, in one of the most safest countries in the world. I suggest you turn off the tv, stop reading the newpaper or the internet and go outside and see that there are no bombs flying and nobody is trying to kill you. Just take a deep breath and chill. Lets not forget 20 years ago, there was a war in Lebanon, a war where Iraq and Iran fought each other and the Soviet Union cold war with the United States and yet those situations ended and relative calm ensue. Eventually this storm will pass as well, and it will be relative calm until the next one.

The fact of the matter is that you have build your case over various conspiracy theories yet you failed to provide the solid "smoking gun" proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you are saying is right on the money.
 

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Shiftkey said:
For the most part I agree with you, but I still think there's hope. Take a look at the democrat primary elections of Connecticut's senator. Lieberman, the long time incumbent, lost his seat to an unknown because Lieberman was pro war in Iraq. Other politicians immediately took notice and are changing their strategies.
And that was the dumbest things democrats in CT could ever do..... Lieberman is the only rational big names in the DNC, a guy that understands how to work with all sides, that is above all that partisan BS. He's going to be on the ticket in November as an indie, and I hope he wins.....


Liquid Bomb thing--- I don't know how the government could really profit on making airlines lose money, but I do that most so-called news is 'spin.'
 

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Baby formula is actually an exemption from the no liquids enforcement.

Just thought I'd mention that.
 

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A-Unit said:
Liquid bombs? Now ALL liquids are banned before you get on? Does this include formula for babies?
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Actually, baby formula is allowed on board. I know in Britain today they were making the mothers drink some to make sure it was real.
 

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This whole thing is ridiculous. How can you keep people from smuggling on bags of liquid under their clothes? In college, one of my roommates could fit 12 beers in his parka and walk past the dorm security guard with ease.
 

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hmm, i wander how long it will take the mods to close this due to its proximity to politics.

I don't think that you can get rid of all liquids, but as far as there being possible hope in democrats winning ground, other than retreating from Iraq as losers, what viable alternative have any democrats supplied that is different from bush? It is easy to point fingers and insult and slander like democrats are doing, but it would be nice if any of them could supply a definitive solution. I am not an absolute Pro-bush guy, but at least we know more or less were he stands.
 

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The truth is there are three branches that actually gain something from terror and fear....
And its not the terrorists....

1st .
The Media shows constant images of fear and warfare to scare the people into watching theyr channels , no one will tune in when theyr working to see a bit on how a fireman saved a cat from a tree , but people will stop doing theyr work and tune in for information on a crisis.... this helps the channels get more viewers wich in return give them more money from comercials and ads..... why do you think us channels have about 25-30 min comercials every hour?

2nd , by being bombared with propagande from the media , we the people , get our minds set into a state of fear , when in fear we want reassurence of our safety , who will provide our safety , for that we look to our government... Instead of denying all the funding for warfare like when we were in peace , we support it because we are afraid for our lifes , why because the media tells us that the whole world is filled with terrorists everywhere and everyday someone is tryng to blow up a mall or a cofee shop near you.... Its impossible to look at a newreport or newspaper without seeing an article about a place being bombed , or finding evidence wich states there is going to be a terrorist action hapening very soon....
And who will savve us from this ? thats when the politicians come in campaining theyr finantial futures safety....
The Politicians tell that they support the war and shout a few patriotic words and propagandic slang about killing al the terrorists around you , politicians who scream about You being the gods chosen people and if they get elected they will rid the world of satans spawn because he is with god he is the power of god and he will kill every iraqy muslim if he has to just to weed out the terrorists.... "Why do we have to attack innocents we should stop the war?" you ask , and in response you get "Are you supporting the terrorists? are you against your people and God?" .... We then fear being alianated from our neghbours and decide to follow the crowd even if it is against what we truly believe in , we decide to forget that there are innocent children in iraq , because our future is in jepordy....
we get fed with constant lies from the administration , yet we do nothing because we are in fear for our lives.....
and now that the politicians are finding out that mroe people are going against the war they feed you higher daily dose of propaganda about terrorist sleeper cells around you so that they can continue what they are doing....

3rd , the people who gain the most from this constant fear , are the supliers of the tools of war.... Who do you think is making the most money from this war ? who is getting all those billions of dallors that the administration has asked its people to spend for the current war ?
Its not the government who provide the soldiers with the clothes , the helmets , the guns , the ships , the airplanes ,the new modern highly advanced programs for missiles... these are private buisnesses who provide the soldiers with these items , and how do they get these contracts with the government ? by bribing the politicians from the very beginning , who backs up current nominees ofr presidents and such ? who has close ties with current members of the administration ? who has had THE CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT as a good friend and coworker in the firm that suplies these items ?
And even if the current vice president has ties with the company wich is making probably the most money out of this war , we still do not think of it more than a simple coincedence....

Stop living in ignorance and see the reality that is around you , we are not living in a place where the government can be trusted anymore .... there are shady people in every corner nowadays , so why cant it be possible that they creeped thery way into the government ?

ps : sorry for the bad grammer , and someone will probably try to refude this with a statement : stupid conspericy theory , for you i say hey atleast im concerned about the direction we are heading in , while you still just go around eating bigmacks and living in ignorance....
 

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Sorry guys, this is all politics, and this ain't the place.

But you might as well Check out:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Yes, the whole bomb plot was a setup. Some paid police informant engages a guy in conversation, trying to get him to plan a bomb plot, records the conversation, and turns them in for a paycheck.

Notice how no ACTUAL bombs, or real plans, were ever made . . .
 

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SELF-MASTERY said:
And that was the dumbest things democrats in CT could ever do..... Lieberman is the only rational big names in the DNC, a guy that understands how to work with all sides, that is above all that partisan BS. He's going to be on the ticket in November as an indie, and I hope he wins.....
Maybe you're right about Lieberman. I have nothing against him. I'm just glad the message got through to our politicians that the vocal majority of us are against the war in Iraq. That's the point I was trying to make.

Hopefully the injection of fear doesn't change that.
 

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What's ironic about this post is that you complain about media and government using scare tactics. Yet, you are scaring people into believe conspiracy theories.

No offense, but your post reminds me of something Michael Moore would write.

You know why I don't like that guy? All he does is complain and diss the government and this country. Yet America is the land of more opportunity than anywhere on earth. If it wasn't for our freedom he wouldn't be making as much money as he is.

So A-Unit man if you didn't have the freedom of speech you are exercising right now you wouldn't be able to write what you just wrote. Be thankful, don't be a hypocrite.

Yeah the media spews negativity but so do you. By focusing on the negative you're no different.
 

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robrulesyou said:
You know why I don't like that guy? All he does is complain and diss the government and this country. Yet America is the land of more opportunity than anywhere on earth. If it wasn't for our freedom he wouldn't be making as much money as he is.
What people like you like to ignore is that people like Moore don't "diss" America and our freeedums; they diss the asshats in charge who are running this country into the ground. What the hell does the Bush administration or anything they've ever done have to do with the freedoms that allowed Moore to become so successful and wealthy? Let me guess, the 150,000 troops and billions of dollars per year in some mideastern country that had nothing to do with any terrorist attacks? Wow, thank you mister president for protecting my freedom.

So A-Unit man if you didn't have the freedom of speech you are exercising right now you wouldn't be able to write what you just wrote. Be thankful, don't be a hypocrite.
Yeah God bless America, only land in the world where people have the freedom to express disapproval of their government on the internet! Ya know, except for most of the rest of the western world, and then some...

Seriously, you sound like another mindless Fox News drone, with your inane, canned "but but but freedom!" responses. Why didn't you just save time and simply write "Why do you hates freedom?"
 

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Scrumtulescence, if you read what A-unit originally posted you will see his point is that the media and government try to use scare tactics / propaganda to cutting our freedoms. He says that despite all the good things happening in the world, the media and government consistently exploit the negative to scare Americans into agreeing to have freedoms restricted.

But it's hypocritical because his whole post is doing the same thing. Rather than complain about media being negative, which is just more negativity, you can point out that lives were saved today. He's only adding to scare tactics and propaganda with his own propaganda. Instead think about all the good stuff that's happening in the world that you rarely hear about. I think A-Unit had a good point to start, but he contradicted himself.

Let me guess, you probably think we don't even need National Security and terrorist alerts. Right. Rather than complain about security checks at the airport, be happy that the government is saving your life. When all you think about is how sh*tty stuff is, you'll think it is that way.

I agree a lot of good positive news doesn't get reported. But by complaining about the bad stuff, you're not helping. By the way, I'm not a huge fan of Fox News. It's a good network, but I don't really watch the news that much, because it is so negative.

I remember a couple months ago, the unemployment rate dropped 1%. That was much better than what many had predicted. Most news channels devoted like 1min to talk about it then went back to the bombings, the terror alerts, the frauds, the murders, rapes, etc. Good news gets lost. I remember CNN said something like the economy turned from "depressing to dismal." Well great. What I like about Fox at least is that they don't hide good news. They don't have an agenda.
 

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I didn't believe the fake ricin story and this seems perfectly timed to get dead lebanese children off the news and keep everyone scared.

Whether or not that is the case, the British and American public's mistrust of the government is not due to conspiracy theorists, it's because the lying bastards have cried wolf too many times.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Heh, only a matter of time before this topic gets closed. :p


But you FOX News haters are awesome. Like America haters and Starbucks protestors, you've gotta attack #1. That's right. Fox News is the number one news network, by FAR. Number 5 cable network overall. Your s'hitty little liberal network MSNBC is 32, I believe. Right behind the JAPANESE MOVIE CHANNEL. :crackup: The numbers speak for themselves. Americans who know the difference between truth and smear tactics watch the appropriate news channel.
Actually the BBC is the worlds most watched enlish speaking news channel and is also the most trusted. But America is far to ethnocentric to ever trust anything broadcasted by those dang red coats. Hence why we never see it over here unless you have web access and and openmind.
 
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