There is no way for a grown man to be as hot as a young girl.

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I am already 30. I will only continue to age. I can definitely work on finances, maturity, and things like that. But if young girls already think I'm too old or not attractive enough, that situation is not going to improve.

They will probably go for guys their own age. We all know that money helps, but that's not really "game" at all.
 

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Women do not consider age like men do.

If your lifestyle, finances, looks, and frame are in check, then there's nothing to worry about... If you want to do date young women, just remember that they are not mature as you are at 30. They likely won't want anything serious, and you just need to enjoy the ride. It all depends on what you want
 
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Women do not consider age like men do.

If your lifestyle, finances, looks, and frame are in check, then there's nothing to worry about... If you want to do date young women, just remember that they are not mature as you are at 30. They likely won't want anything serious, and you just need to enjoy the ride. It all depends on what you want
What good are finances unless you're going to pay them? And what's the difference between that and a hooker?

If they can get other guys to pay them, which they probably can, they would have to be stupid to do anything with me for free.
 

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What good are finances unless you're going to pay them? And what's the difference between that and a hooker?

If they can get other guys to pay them, which they probably can, they would have to be stupid to do anything with me for free.
Finances are for only good for you my friend. So you can own a car, house, travel, retire someday. You attract younger women not for your money to spend on, but because you are stable and secure not living paycheck to paycheck. If you meet a woman that is looking for money, move on and don't waste your time. Other guys paying for them won't matter if they are living with their parents or renting an apartment with 2 other roommates.
 

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Finances are just another indicator if you have your **** together. It adds indicators towards higher intelligence, charisma, ambition, status, forward momentum in life. Not guaranteed at all, as other things come into play. But the main thing is showing that you're not a deadbeat. They don't have to be 'active' to work.

There's also a "If I end up living with this guy, am I going to be living in squalor, the average, or upscale a bit?". I don't want to live in squalor. Neither do most women. If it's not the best living arrangements, then there has to be something else in play - temporary in some respect.

Thankfully, looks and age are less important to women than to men. Keeping care of yourself is far superior to age and natural looks - as I can note several 20 years olds (or slightly older) that look greatly older (and not healthy), or just not well kept.
 
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Finances are just another indicator if you have your **** together. It adds indicators towards higher intelligence, charisma, ambition, status, forward momentum in life. Not guaranteed at all, as other things come into play. But the main thing is showing that you're not a deadbeat. They don't have to be 'active' to work.

There's also a "If I end up living with this guy, am I going to be living in squalor, the average, or upscale a bit?". I don't want to live in squalor. Neither do most women. If it's not the best living arrangements, then there has to be something else in play - temporary in some respect.

Thankfully, looks and age are less important to women than to men. Keeping care of yourself is far superior to age and natural looks - as I can note several 20 years olds (or slightly older) that look greatly older (and not healthy), or just not well kept.
Even if you're giving them a nice place to stay, that's still giving them something.

Next, they're gonna wonder if you're stupid enough to add their name to the deed or get married without a prenup.
 

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Even if you're giving them a nice place to stay, that's still giving them something.

Next, they're gonna wonder if you're stupid enough to add their name to the deed or get married without a prenup.
Tell her to sleep on the street then. Don't give them anything at all. Say "Thanks for the screw babe!" and kick them out.

Relationship goes as far as you're willing.
 

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You need to understand one thing about men and women: women can be hot and that's not a skill, but men can be good and that's a skill.

We're better than them.
 

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What good are finances unless you're going to pay them?
More money means you can dress better, buy better colognes, eat better, go on better dates, better vacations, take her out in a nicer car, take her back to a nicer house, a nicer bedroom, etc.
 
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More money means you can dress better, buy better colognes, eat better, go on better dates, better vacations, take her out in a nicer car, take her back to a nicer house, a nicer bedroom, etc.
But at some point, won't she say... "Cool stuff. Can I have some?"

You might as well be broke if you're not gonna give any to her.
 
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men worry about their looks because thats what we value in women.

women dont value that in us as much as we think. they place value on all the things we preach men to strive for here, confidence etc

you need to kill this hangup if youre ever gonna succeed with women.

theyre not as worried about something you dont like about your face or body.

theyre paying attention to other things.

looks you cant really control and money is not easy to come by for most people.

game is most definitely an option
They still would care if they thought I had an ugly face, big nose, beer belly, balding, etc.

But at least I have ways to make up for it.
 
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We're better than them.
Trust me, I've known that for a long time. They're essentially useless except for minor little supporting tasks. For the vast majority of history, they were incapable of surviving by themselves, and still rely on males just below the surface.

But they will have higher SMV 9 times out of 10 because it's fvcked up, but I've realized I can't change the world.
 
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Why not just go someone your own age?

When I'm a doc, you think I'm going to try to game girls in College?
Cause young girls are hotter. Maybe I should go for 24 at youngest.

Maybe one day I can find my dream girl....

The Infinite Bl0wjob Machine

"Hey sexy. Do you by any chance want to spend the rest of your life with my d1ck in your mouth " Should be my new opening line on POF.
 

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How about you just stop revealing your age to the women you're meeting.

Also, women in their 20s don't set the bar too high when it comes to spending money on them vs older women. Older women want a man who has his **** together and is a suitable provider for his potential family.
 

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How about you just stop revealing your age to the women you're meeting.

Also, women in their 20s don't set the bar too high when it comes to spending money on them vs older women. Older women want a man who has his **** together and is a suitable provider for his potential family.
Women under the age of 22 don't care that much about what your job is they just want fun.

If you date a woman over 30, you better have your own house and a nice car. They also expect to be treated to fancy dinners. The college chicks I have dated are fine with going to Wing Stop.
 

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I am already 30. I will only continue to age. I can definitely work on finances, maturity, and things like that. But if young girls already think I'm too old or not attractive enough, that situation is not going to improve.

They will probably go for guys their own age. We all know that money helps, but that's not really "game" at all.
I'm 33 and have no problems f*cking 22 year olds.

@bigneil is in his 40's and has no problems f*cking 22 year olds.
 

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I'm 33 and have no problems f*cking 22 year olds.

@bigneil is in his 40's and has no problems f*cking 22 year olds.
The key there is career success, which allows you to dress right and have confidence. There are not many 30/40+ year old stock boys who can dress for success and carry themselves with enough confidence to bag chicks who probably see most of those types of guys as a cash cow. The key on your part is not to fall for their bs and simply see them as a plate unless they happen to be the magical unicorn.
 
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