The wonders of online dating

[Lexington]

I had quite the interesting weekend. I've recently been teaching a friend of mine about "the red pill." The guy knew nothing about Game until 6-7 months ago. The guy is very intelligent but socially awkward. Before that, he was very blue pill. He is still internalizing the harsh reality.

Anyway, he recently started seeing this girl that he's been very excited about. He even got to fvck her several times. For him, it's a big deal. He said she was really hot and I was happy for him. He claimed that he was hooked up with her through a mutual friend.

Last Thursday, I got a message on OkC from some girl that expressed interest (rated me 4-5 stars). So I messaged this girl back and forth a few times. She gives me her number without me even asking for it. I'd rate the girl a 7 if you go by looks.....28 years old, 5'6, toned, tan, very flat stomach, nice ass.

Her SMV takes a huge hit because she's a single mom. But whatever, she seemed like an easy lay. And she was. She came over to my place yesterday and she put out pretty easily.

So this morning, me and my friend were talking. This guy was wondering if Viagra would help him improve his performance. But based on a few things he said, I began to wonder if this broad was the same girl I fvcked last night. As it turns out, it was.

In fact, he had taken her out to dinner last night. Just before she came over to see me. He said he was surprised that she didn't want to go back to his place. Now we both know the reason why.....

He learned another valuable Red Pill lesson.

 

[backbreaker]

damn lol

 

[backbreaker]

this is a great thread to ask the following. lol this is like a social studies class or some ****


I want to know what guys think the lesson to be learned in the above story is. It will be interesting to see everyone different point of view

 

[Pandora]

wow thats a harsh lesson to learn man. This story is interesting for a number of reasons. Based on this story it kinda confirms what i thought for a while. You and your friend have drastically different personalities. Your game is tight and you are decent at gaming girls. He is a newbie and is kinda socially akward. She still gave it up to both of you guys (even though she prob likes you more). This goes to show that guys should not take success or failure in the game too personal. Chances are that if you got laid, its becuz she was just open to getting laid by a sumwhat decent guy. Chances are that if you got rejected, is that she just wasn't looking to get picked up even if your are a decent guy.


This story also shows another thing that ive suspected. If there is no one to give a social stigma, then some girls (sexually liberal) would have sex with all but the most repugnant betas. The internet erases the social stigma becuz you guys dont know the same people. The only reason they don't do it now is that the slut stigmas exists and its bad for their SMV. Its not that women are inherently turned off by your recovering beta friend. The issue is that compared to guys that are alpha, your beta friend seems like a turn off. Its a relative thing. If she had no other choices she would do him with no problem. Back in the 50's before the sexual revolution, hot chicks were doing guys like ur friend with no problem.

Your poor friend was prob thinking damn, something must been wrong with him for her flaking on going back. But naw, in absolute terms he is ok (thats why she had sex with him before). But its just in relative terms he is going to take a back seat to the alpha.

Some girls have told me that if they were anonymous that they would do alot more dudes. Even if the dudes were not so smooth and kinda beta. As long as the dudes passed a bare minimum of looks. What stops them is that they know that it will be bad for their SMV. Online dating erases that for some girls. Sluts are simply girls that dont care too much about their SMV. Its like a guys who prefers driving BMW's but will occasionally drive a Corolla becuz " hey why not". No one is going to see me in it and it does the job.

Again not all girls think like this. But the more sexually liberal girls do. And its not a bad thing. I love girls like this. If more girls were like this the world would be a better place.

 

[backbreaker]

see this is how i see it


2 things

1. i think it's a misunderstanding to assume just because she is "dating" this other guy and even ****ing him, that she actually likes him. she's a single mother who is 26 years old.

do you honestly think she would be dating this guy if she is a legit HB 7 with all those features if she didn't have a kid? I don't beucaes if she were childless her SMV would be higher thus demanding a better man for long term.

somewhere in the back of her mind she knows this is about as good as it gets long term wise with the baggage she has + her age . she knows he will provide, she knows he will never think about cheating on him. she knows he will raise her child as his own.


But none of that means she's ATTRACTED to him.


she's actually ATTRACTED to lex. but just like the back of her mind she knows the other dude is as good as it gets, she knows on a sub concious level she will never get to shack up with a guy like lex because her SMV is too low. but that does not mean that lex doesn't make the gina tingle and her BF is clueless enough to where she can have her cake and eat it too. that's another benefit of having a socially awkard beta provider. they are stupid. my red flag metor would have went up the 2nd she didnt' want to come back to my house.


2. any woman that has kids, an ex husband or is a past drug user, you screen them longer before you trust them. anyone can put on a front for a few months. just because a woman ****s you doesn't' mean she's a great girl. you liking me doesn't make you great. makes you intelligent maybe lol but not great. just because you will **** me doesn't make you a great person.

 

[MikeOck]

I'm curious what your friend's plan is now for this girl. Will he go silent on her? Will he keep sleeping with her but treat her like a f#ck buddy? Will he get mad at her? Will he ignore her "mistake" and continue to treat her like a princess?

 

[backbreaker]

nope. i bet 50 bucks the play is that heg ets mad at lex eventually.

 

[backbreaker]

nope. i bet 50 bucks the play is that heg ets mad at lex eventually.

 

[backbreaker]

nope. i bet 50 bucks the play is that heg ets mad at lex eventually.

 

[Lexington]

The lesson that really hit home for my friend is that most girls are "players." Most blue pill guys I know feel that spinning plates is immoral. What they don't realize is that almost any semi decent girl is evaluating multiple prospects at any given time. Most of them won't hesitate to take advantage of their options.

She might be simultaneously dating a Beta while getting plowed by a PUA. She might ditch one Alpha for a better Alpha when the right opportunity comes along. She might be looking to settle down and she might even ditch the hawt guy for the stable provider (or she might continue to **** the hawt guy on the side).

The bottom line is that women are always looking to optimize their hypergamy. Never forget that. I think my friend learned a valuable lesson and it will serve him well in the future.

When you play the game, it's important to never take things personally. I'll leave you with the lyrics of a catchy tune from the early 2000s:

Now Ladies come, ladies go,
Out my revolving door
Some ladies never come back,
Most come back for more.
I've got a house in the hills
With a door that spins.
Goes in and out,
Out and in,
'Round and 'round again.​

 

[backbreaker]

The lesson that really hit home for my friend is that most girls are "players." Most blue pill guys I know feel that spinning plates is immoral. What they don't realize is that almost any semi decent girl is evaluating multiple prospects at any given time. Most of them won't hesitate to take advantage of their options.

She might be simultaneously dating a Beta while getting plowed by a PUA. She might ditch one Alpha for a better Alpha when the right opportunity comes along. She might be looking to settle down and she might even ditch the hawt guy for the stable provider (or she might continue to **** the hawt guy on the side).

The bottom line is that women are always looking to optimize their hypergamy. Never forget that. I think my friend learned a valuable lesson and it will serve him well in the future.

When you play the game, it's important to never take things personally. I'll leave you with the lyrics of a catchy tune from the early 2000s:

Now Ladies come, ladies go,
Out my revolving door
Some ladies never come back,
Most come back for more.
I've got a house in the hills
With a door that spins.
Goes in and out,
Out and in,
'Round and 'round again.​

see that's not the lesson i got out of it whatsoever.

first of all you have to see who the teacher is who is providing the lesson. my wife when i met her had had all of 2 boyfriends as an adult, both multiple years, no kids no ex husband. this woman is 26 years old and has a baby already. she's already a baby momma.

so off top, i'm considering her shady decision making skills as a red flag.


see, to me that's the downfall of sosuave. blaming women for living up to their past, and using poor screening habits, then when women act like you expect them to act, it's ALL of women's fault.

I must say not ALL women are.. ****, not even the MAJORITY of women are as shalllow as to

1. be 26 year old and have a kid
2. dating a guy while
3. plowing a guy she met online without little resistance.


and on top of all that, you didn't DO anything realtivly alphaish lol. I mean i'm not calling you a beta male or anything but you said it yourself she didn't put up a fight. maybe the girl is just a good ole fashioned *****.


this whole deal just irks he **** out of me. blaming women in general for your poor screening skills. the problem with the red pill is that too many guys take the red pill on an empty stomach. you can't take the red pill without having a solid amount of plates on hand to eat off of. red pill with no plates will just leave you bitter and upset.

there is this chick at my NA meeting, she has a kid. she's what.. 23-24 years old. she's not ugly but she's not really my type but hey. there are mainly 2 guys that like this girl. one, has his **** together. he's pretty smart, he's got a ltitle clean time. he's working out and getting in shape. he's not bad looking at all.. but no, this chick is drawn towards the other dude, the dude who has a kid (this good dude doesn't), who already has an ex wife, who comes tom meetings just to get a court paper signed and is loud and obnoxious and just.. well ignorant. literally the dude rides a pink bike to get to the meeting.

the only thing i can see this guy has is that he's skinner than the good dude, but the other dude isn't fat. and i'm just watching this chick make this train wreck of a decision in front of my eyes. she's nice to the good dude but i can tell she likes the other dude more.

i say this because like a month ago i could tell the dude was down on his luck so i talked to him and he asked me dude what is wrong with me, he was pretty sad. i felt the dudes pain lol. i mean he wasn't trying to marry this chick, but he wanted someone to chill with from b tme to time, maybe go on a date. just normal stuff. and he's doing what everyone is telling him that he is supposed to do and nothing is happening and this other dude isn't' doing **** and he's got this girl under his thumb.

and i told the dude look.. no disrespect meant but this woman is 23 years old with 2-3 months clean and she's here because they are trying tot ake her kids away because she smokes weed and meth around her kids, and this is a woman who youa re going to base your self esteem judgement off of lol?

sometimes women just make stupid choices. that's not even the type of woman you want anyway dude.

i refuse to get anything out of the story other than the woman was a ***** and that you need to teach your friend how to screen better. probably should be spinning plates as well. anything else than that is pie in sky conjecture

 

[MikeOck]

Yeah, honestly, some women just like to f#ck; Often and with multiple partners. A lot of men do too, nothing entirely wrong with it, just a lifestyle choice. I've slept with many women like this and they've made my world a better place, hahaha. The problem occurs when you fail to differentiate a sl#tty woman from a relationship quality woman.

To be fair, sometimes they don't make it easy either, they try to make a man think they are the monogamous type when in reality they are anything but. You can avoid this by assuming they are all sl#tty until they prove you wrong. Don't be so eager to get into a relationship, make her work for it and make her prove her value to you.

 

[Jitterbug]

Women fvck for many reasons, sexual enjoyment is just one.

In this case, she fvcks Lexington's friend because she's a single mum and needs to hook him up for some beta providing. She fvcks Lexington because she's sexually attracted to him (note she approaches him online first by rating his looks). She might also be fvcking some policeman to get out of a fine, the landlord to get reduced rent etc.

When the only thing she has going for herself is pvssy, every problem in life starts to look like a c0ck.

 

[Lexington]

this whole deal just irks he **** out of me. blaming women in general for your poor screening skills. the problem with the red pill is that too many guys take the red pill on an empty stomach. you can't take the red pill without having a solid amount of plates on hand to eat off of. red pill with no plates will just leave you bitter and upset.

Plates aren't a problem. I'm not even bragging when I say that I can fvck a new girl every week. I've seriously had days when I f-closed 3 girls in a 24 hour period. Of course, I happen to live in New York where there is a limitless supply of pvssy and a favorable girl-to-guy ratio in the 18-30 age group.

I don't think it's conjecture to say that most girls have multiple options and that they won't hesitate to jump to a better option if it happens to present itself. Sure, there are some girls that are very monogamous and committed. But these days, they are few and far between. Between getting hit on every day in person, Facebook, Twitter and online dating, any HB6 and up has lots of c0cks lined up if she wants them.

Yes, if you want an LTR you should definitely screen. But that's not my goal. I still want to sow my wild oats for a few more years. I'm in no hurry to get hitched or even get into an LTR. But even with screening, there is no denying that girls in America today aren't what they used to be.

In my experience, the vast majority of girls over 25 have been Alpha widowed once if not multiple times. When you consider that most girls start having sex between 14-16, a high percentage of good looking women probably have a c0ck count of 10 or more by the time they're 25. We also happen to live in a culture that encourages female promiscuity.

Just take a look at the most popular celebrities and the most popular TV shows today. Even suggesting that a girl has had too many c0cks is derided as "slvt shaming." I'm not bitter about it.....it is what it is. In a way, I've benefited greatly from it. When I first joined SS in 2008, I had 3 lifetime sex partners. In 2013 alone, I've bedded 10.

Was this girl a slvt? Definitely. She's a stupid slvt at that because she got knocked up. But I guarantee you that she is not that much more slvttier than the average American woman of today. Remember, 40% of all births occur out of wedlock today.

I'm not denying that there are some quality LTR women out there. And BB, I'm glad you found yourself one. But the fact is, most American women today are hypergamous and promiscuous. Women in general are slvtty if you go by the classical definition of the word. Of course, what constitutes a slvt has changed significantly since the 1960s.

 

[backbreaker]

Plates aren't a problem. I'm not even bragging when I say that I can fvck a new girl every week. I've seriously had days when I f-closed 3 girls in a 24 hour period. Of course, I happen to live in New York where there is a limitless supply of pvssy and a favorable girl-to-guy ratio in the 18-30 age group.

/QUOTE]
i never implied that they were a problem. lolt this thread isn't about you it's about your beta friend. your beta friend needs plates. if he had plates he wouldn't be worshiping the feet of a 26 year old single mom because she put it on him

 

[Bible_Belt]

I'm not even bragging when I say that I can fvck a new girl every week.

Yes you are, which is why you started this thread. Your little dominant man act is pretty gay. At least you're a "top." That would make you the "man" in the relationship.

 

[Mike32ct]

Women fvck for many reasons, sexual enjoyment is just one.

In this case, she fvcks Lexington's friend because she's a single mum and needs to hook him up for some beta providing. She fvcks Lexington because she's sexually attracted to him (note she approaches him online first by rating his looks). She might also be fvcking some policeman to get out of a fine, the landlord to get reduced rent etc.

When the only thing she has going for herself is pvssy, every problem in life starts to look like a c0ck.

:crackup: Spot on.

 

[Robert28]

My problem is sometimes I'm Lexington and other times I'm his friend (although not nearly as dumb anymore as I've started to wise up.). I go through phases it seems and can't seem to stay on a direct path. Right now I'm going through some f*cked up phase of being a fatty magnet with the occasional milf showing interest. Everywhere I turn there's a fatty who's interested in me. Problem is I don't get desperate enough to sleep with any of them because even the fatty's with the cute faces just don't do it for me enough. I'll eventually break out of this phase and land a hottie for awhile, then I'll go through a phase where I can't even get a fatty, hottie, or milf to show interest in me. It's the d@mndest thing!

I've also never been good with slvts. I try to game them, try to easy bang them such as Lexington did but my strength's when it comes to game just aren't setup for that it seems. Sometimes I'm a blue plate, sometimes I'm a red plate. Hell, most of the time I'm probably a purple plate (mix between red and blue). My issue is the slvts either aren't attracted to me or they want to date me (which I'm not having any of). I'm not like Lexington's friend who tries to wife up a slvt and make her mine. Screw all that.

 

[Boilermaker]

Yes you are, which is why you started this thread. Your little dominant man act is pretty gay. At least you're a "top." That would make you the "man" in the relationship.

As much as I dislike the OP, and his overplaying the "macho man act" at times, you, of all the seniors here, shall not be giving advice to a man who talks about spinning three different girls in a 24-hour period.

His dominant man act isn't gay, it's just an act. Your "flavor act" of the month is the mature man who knows what he wants in life, to justify his one-itis of the over-weight woman he once was genuinely attracted to. Everybody has an act.

..and it happens to align with the ego-inv(f)ested positions they have taken in life. Don't blame him, you are no different.

 

[the_stig]

You can try to analyze this situation to death but in my opinion it's just the common behavior of most attractive women using online dating who don't know what to do with the limitless options bestowed upon them. We all know they're riding the c0ck carousel so I don't know why this comes as a big surprise.

Think about it, if guys could pick and choose who they wanted to have sex with on a daily basis, wouldn't we be doing the same thing? Of course.

Online dating allows women to act like wh*ores because they can hide under a thick blanket of anonymity. I seriously doubt you two are the only guys she has slept with recently, and if you wouldn't have put two and two together, you'd have been none-the-wiser. Her family and friends will never know. So why wouldn't she [they] sample the product if there is no fear of slut shaming?