The way I talk to women, esp. the hot ones:

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The first part of this will focus on recognizing what HB's really are. We need to understand them before we will know how to engage them. The "what" and the "why" come before the "how."

It's very simple, but first I would like you to think about the following:

1. How do you talk to your friends? These are your bro's who you feel completely comfortable with, and have little concern with their reactions to what you say. Just try to feel "that" mindset.

2. How do you talk to women who you know well and are comfortable with? These could be friends of your parents, co-workers, cousins, aunties, any woman you don't intend to have sex with. Feel the mindset of how you interact with those women.

3. Now think about how you would approach and interact with a female you dont know, and are not attracted to.

4. And finally, think about how it feels to approach and engage a woman you are very attracted to?

Likely you will feel and behave very differently in each of these situations. This natural, but it is also where the problems begin. When you arrive at the level of communication I am talking about, you should feel and act no differently towards an HB than your friends and family. Here's why.

Hot women are no different than anyone else. The reality about hot women that has helped me to feel very comfortable around them, is simply that they are like any other person. They are in their own process of having a human experience. They have their problems as well as good qualities. They are getting older. They will die one day. They have to take a sh!t (which is especially humiliating for many HB's) They can also feel empty and ugly inside and out, as everyone does or has at one time. Even people who are perceived to be beautiful don't necessarily feel that way. And like everyone, they are struggling to find where they fit in life.

HB's are experiencing everything that we are. Your journey to rid yourself of AFC qualities and become a better person is common to every one of us. It is what life is about, and being good looking doesn't make you exempt from life's trials. Don't let the looks fool you.

When you see an HB, dont see her as that. See her as simply a person who is not much different than you. Identify and recognize how her experience here is not so unlike yours.

Now simply talk to women with that mindset.

You are probably used to talking to HB's with the mindset that, she thinks she is hot, and gets hit on all the time, and you better do everything right or she will think you are just like the other guys who got shot down before you.

Next time just talk to them as if you known them well. Like they are no more special or different than you or anyone else. Just another one of your bros. It is key to making communication with HB's EASY and effective, and she will appreciate the authenticity. And if she doesn't, then she probably isn't worth your time.
 
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For some reason this is one of the best posts I've ever read.

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Mistic said:
The first part of this will focus on recognizing what HB's really are. We need to understand them before we will know how to engage them. The "what" and the "why" come before the "how."

It's very simple, but first I would like you to think about the following:

1. How do you talk to your friends? These are your bro's who you feel completely comfortable with, and have little concern with their reactions to what you say. Just try to feel "that" mindset.

2. How do you talk to women who you know well and are comfortable with? These could be friends of your parents, co-workers, cousins, aunties, any woman you don't intend to have sex with. Feel the mindset of how you interact with those women.

3. Now think about how you would approach and interact with a female you dont know, and are not attracted to.

4. And finally, think about how it feels to approach and engage a woman you are very attracted to?

Likely you will feel and behave very differently in each of these situations. This natural, but it is also where the problems begin. When you arrive at the level of communication I am talking about, you should feel and act no differently towards an HB than your friends and family. Here's why.

Hot women are no different than anyone else. The reality about hot women that has helped me to feel very comfortable around them, is simply that they are like any other person. They are in their own process of having a human experience. They have their problems as well as good qualities. They are getting older. They will die one day. They have to take a sh!t (which is especially humiliating for many HB's) They can also feel empty and ugly inside and out, as everyone does or has at one time. Even people who are perceived to be beautiful don't necessarily feel that way. And like everyone, they are struggling to find where they fit in life.

HB's are experiencing everything that we are. Your journey to rid yourself of AFC qualities and become a better person is common to every one of us. It is what life is about, and being good looking doesn't make you exempt from life's trials. Don't let the looks fool you.

When you see an HB, dont see her as that. See her as simply a person who is not much different than you. Identify and recognize how her experience here is not so unlike yours.

Now simply talk to women with that mindset.

You are probably used to talking to HB's with the mindset that, she thinks she is hot, and gets hit on all the time, and you better do everything right or she will think you are just like the other guys who got shot down before you.

Next time just talk to them as if you known them well. Like they are no more special or different than you or anyone else. Just another one of your bros. It is key to making communication with HB's EASY and effective, and she will appreciate the authenticity. And if she doesn't, then she probably isn't worth your time.
Disagreed, 110%. Attractive women are from their own f'n Planet, and must be treated accordingly. There is an actual art form to talking to these egotistical bit*ches.

1. Never EVER kiss their asses. They are used to this from AFCs all the time. It bores them, and is unnecessary, it will not get you into their panties.

2. They are NOT your bros. Talk to them as such, and you will find yourself Friendszoned so fast, it will make your head swim.

3. You need to be ****y-funny, confident, and non-chalant. Excuse yourself from the conversation, cut it short, then go back.

4. Throw in a little sexual innuendo at times, to remind them, that you want to fukk them. If they are dressed sexy, it's for a reason. They want it. Maybe not from you, but they still are approval seeking, as Attention Wh0res.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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Mistic said:
The first part of this will focus on recognizing what HB's really are. We need to understand them before we will know how to engage them. The "what" and the "why" come before the "how."

It's very simple, but first I would like you to think about the following:

1. How do you talk to your friends? These are your bro's who you feel completely comfortable with, and have little concern with their reactions to what you say. Just try to feel "that" mindset.

2. How do you talk to women who you know well and are comfortable with? These could be friends of your parents, co-workers, cousins, aunties, any woman you don't intend to have sex with. Feel the mindset of how you interact with those women.

3. Now think about how you would approach and interact with a female you dont know, and are not attracted to.

4. And finally, think about how it feels to approach and engage a woman you are very attracted to?

Likely you will feel and behave very differently in each of these situations. This natural, but it is also where the problems begin. When you arrive at the level of communication I am talking about, you should feel and act no differently towards an HB than your friends and family. Here's why.

Hot women are no different than anyone else. The reality about hot women that has helped me to feel very comfortable around them, is simply that they are like any other person. They are in their own process of having a human experience. They have their problems as well as good qualities. They are getting older. They will die one day. They have to take a sh!t (which is especially humiliating for many HB's) They can also feel empty and ugly inside and out, as everyone does or has at one time. Even people who are perceived to be beautiful don't necessarily feel that way. And like everyone, they are struggling to find where they fit in life.

HB's are experiencing everything that we are. Your journey to rid yourself of AFC qualities and become a better person is common to every one of us. It is what life is about, and being good looking doesn't make you exempt from life's trials. Don't let the looks fool you.

When you see an HB, dont see her as that. See her as simply a person who is not much different than you. Identify and recognize how her experience here is not so unlike yours.

Now simply talk to women with that mindset.

You are probably used to talking to HB's with the mindset that, she thinks she is hot, and gets hit on all the time, and you better do everything right or she will think you are just like the other guys who got shot down before you.

Next time just talk to them as if you known them well. Like they are no more special or different than you or anyone else. Just another one of your bros. It is key to making communication with HB's EASY and effective, and she will appreciate the authenticity. And if she doesn't, then she probably isn't worth your time.
I think I need to quit messaging this board for so called advice.

I personally have given up on even approaching people.I just can't.I do not know why but I am unable to practise ANY of what I read here.

If i see a girl i wanna meet,its gonna take me a whole week to muster up the courage to approach her.

i am still clueless about what to say and how to say it.
 

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whyme2008 said:
I think I need to quit messaging this board for so called advice.

I personally have given up on even approaching people.I just can't.I do not know why but I am unable to practise ANY of what I read here.

If i see a girl i wanna meet,its gonna take me a whole week to muster up the courage to approach her.

i am still clueless about what to say and how to say it.
the more i read here,the more i am lost.

i am helpless in these matters.maybe i should just forget all this,so this not going anywhere with me
 

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2. They are NOT your bros. Talk to them as such, and you will find yourself Friendszoned so fast, it will make your head swim.
Agreed :yes:
 

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Disagreed, 110%. Attractive women are from their own f'n Planet, and must be treated accordingly. There is an actual art form to talking to these egotistical bit*ches.
Would that be Planet Pedestal? :crackup: You go ahead and keep treating them as special cases. Keep feeding that ego.

Meanwhile, I will talk to them as if they are nothing special, and they will be so mystified that someone isn't that impressed with them, that they will be compelled to dive in a little deeper to try and figure me out.

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1. Never EVER kiss their asses. They are used to this from AFCs all the time. It bores them, and is unnecessary, it will not get you into their panties.
Did you derive somewhere that I advocated kissing their asses?


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2. They are NOT your bros. Talk to them as such, and you will find yourself Friendszoned so fast, it will make your head swim.
Your clearly not understanding, so I will explain a little more. Try to get this.

You get friend zoned when you are clearly attracted to and hitting on a woman who is not interested in you. You get FZ'd faster if you come off as desperate or eager, or portray any other undesirable quality. It is her counter strike to you AFC attempt.

When you treat an HB as a friend first, how can she FZ you. You have in a way already done it to her. You have given a preemptive strike, and given her no reason to be on guard. Now that she is off balance by your unusual behavior toward her you can begin to do what you have stated here:


JackPrescott said:
3. You need to be ****y-funny, confident, and non-chalant. Excuse yourself from the conversation, cut it short, then go back.

JackPrescott said:
4. Throw in a little sexual innuendo at times, to remind them, that you want to fukk them. If they are dressed sexy, it's for a reason. They want it. Maybe not from you, but they still are approval seeking, as Attention Wh0res.
Dont you use CF on your bros when you are hanging out? Aren't you confident around people you know? Dont you act non-chalant when you aren't trying to impress?
 
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whyme2008 said:
If i see a girl i wanna meet,its gonna take me a whole week to muster up the courage to approach her.
LOL, I love that quote! Good for you man. A lot of people on this board will take forever to realize that the stuff at the DJ Bible isn't working for them. I predict you will find success faster than most.

Please let me know if this tip (from yours truly) helps you:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121860
 

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Mistic said:
Would that be Planet Pedestal? :crackup: You go ahead and keep treating them as special cases. Keep feeding that ego.

Meanwhile, I will talk to them as if they are nothing special, and they will be so mystified that someone isn't that impressed with them, that they have to dive into a little deeper to try and figure me out.



Did you derive somewhere that I advocated kissing their asses?




Your clearly not understanding, so I will explain a little more. Try to get this.

You get friend zoned when you are clearly attracted to and hitting on a woman who is not interested in you. You get FZ'd faster if you come off as desperate or eager, or portray any other undesirable quality. It is her counter strike to you AFC attempt.

When you treat an HB as a friend first, how can she FZ you. You have in a way already done it to her. You have given a preemptive strike, and given her no reason to be on guard. Now that she is off balance by your unusual behavior toward her you can begin to do what you have stated here:







Dont you use CF on your bros when you are hanging out? Aren't you confident around people you know? Dont you act non-chalant when you aren't trying to impress?
You get friendzoned by an HB if she does not want to fukk you, REGARDLESS. Why not treat her like dogg****t right away! That gets them to hate you, or love you, one of the two. Confidence? Me? :D I was born confident, baby. One thing I love to do is remind an HB9 that while I'd do her, there is someone else. It doesnt work all the time, but when it does, watch out!!!
 

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^^^ "I was born confident, baby. One thing I love to do is remind an HB9 that while I'd do her, there is someone else. It doesnt work all the time, but when it does, watch out!!!"

And Jack typed that out with his penis, that's how ****y he is!:D
 

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JackPrescott said:
You get friendzoned by an HB if she does not want to fukk you, REGARDLESS. Why not treat her like dogg****t right away! That gets them to hate you, or love you, one of the two. Confidence? Me? :D I was born confident, baby. One thing I love to do is remind an HB9 that while I'd do her, there is someone else. It doesnt work all the time, but when it does, watch out!!!
I am saying to treat her like a friend. That is different from being friendly. You can be a bit of a d!ck and treat her like you do your bros who you give a hard time.
 

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Mr. Me said:
^^^ "I was born confident, baby. One thing I love to do is remind an HB9 that while I'd do her, there is someone else. It doesnt work all the time, but when it does, watch out!!!"

And Jack typed that out with his penis, that's how ****y he is!:D
LOL :D
 

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Mistic said:
I am saying to treat her like a friend. That is different from being friendly. You can be a bit of a d!ck and treat her like you do your bros who you give a hard time.
Sure, thats what it's all about!!!:up: :up:
 

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LOL, I love that quote! Good for you man. A lot of people on this board will take forever to realize that the stuff at the DJ Bible isn't working for them. I predict you will find success faster than most.

Please let me know if this tip (from yours truly) helps you:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121860
no,i like what is said in the dj bible.i just cant approach.i am held back by i dont know what
 

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What he's trying to say is you have to be comfortable talking to HBs.

Comfort comes with practice my friend. Yes, your mind set can help, but it's mostly from lots of practice.
 

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no,i like what is said in the dj bible.i just cant approach.i am held back by i dont know what
I liked what I read in the DJ Bible too. It just never ever ever worked for me.

If you ever get a chance to read good tips, and I'm not saying my posts are good tips for everyone or for you or for anybody but me necessarily. Anyway, you'll know when you read good tips right away, because approaching will feel how it should: easy.

Meanwhile, if you want to think those are good tips, it's your opinion, not mine!

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The spirit of the post, which is not to think of them different in terms of intimidating you, is right on.

But, that being said,

Disagreed, 110%. Attractive women are from their own f'n Planet, and must be treated accordingly. There is an actual art form to talking to these egotistical bit*ches.
I have to agree, and has a lot to do with why I am here, and why I think some of the sh!t that PUAs and guys in these forums come up with is so brilliant.

They ARE on their own planet. Has anyone else noticed that this stuff is proportionally MORE applicable the HOTTER the babe?

In other words, I've been out with some HB5-7's that were pretty normal, and obviously much of the DJ stuff was still very applicable.

But, I've noticed when it comes to HB7.5 and higher, you may as well consider this stuff a users manual to their psyche! (this is especially true of HB's under 30, in my experience).

IOW, almost every time I come across something written-that I wasn't aware was going on at the time, but has just be described verbatim, like they were there in the room with me- it's most often with one of the HB7.5's or up, and I my reaction is so very often "Holy sh1t, so thats what was going on! That's F'in exactly what happened to me!"

My reaction is a mixture of feeling stupid for not having know this earlier, combined with a feeling of satisfaction that at least I will be prepared for next time.

It never ceases to amaze me how accurate this stuff can be, and how completely different and unrelated girls behave the same because they are above average in looks.

I am careful now not to treat them the same, because they really are on their own planet.
 

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I agree with the OP 100%...people of both sexes appreciate "realness." The rest of you guys--well, have fun with your stuck up *****es.

The best attitude to have IMO is 'yeah, I'm real, I'll talk to you, we can have fun, but I don't give a damn how hot you are or who your father is, you're still on the same level as everybody else.'
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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